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basketball - Sport, ball used in said sport.
volleyball - Sport, ball used in said sport.

Should we tag the balls as basketball_(ball) and volleyball_(ball) respectively?

BlueDingo said:
Should we tag the balls as basketball_(ball) and volleyball_(ball) respectively?

Yeah, that seems to be the standard: see football_(disambiguation).

Though it might work better the other way around: basketball for the ball, basketball_(sport) for the sport. There's more posts of the balls than of the sport, and the latter almost always contains the former.

I think sticking to the standard is a better idea. More consistent.

on_shoulders refers to several situations.

post #966366 post #1002979 post #906643 post #110100

I've already separated fireman's_carry, piggyback and shoulder_carry from these. I need to go through the carrying tag at some point to find out how many of them need these three tags.

EDIT: Just discovered the shoulder_stand tag. I'll sort those from on_shoulders now.

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BlueDingo said:
on_shoulders refers to several situations.

Hm, I wonder if that should imply on_top
seems rather humanoid-anatomy-centric, and prone to exceptions

titanmelon said:
Hm, I wonder if that should imply on_top
seems rather humanoid-anatomy-centric, and prone to exceptions

on_top seems to refer to a character sitting/straddling on a character who is sitting/lying down. On_shoulders isn't that.

We need to find a way to prevent on_shoulders from being mistagged. It only has a few exceptions right now. We could change this position to shoulder_ride or sitting_on_shoulders which would separate it from the more ambiguous on_shoulders then periodically check on_shoulders for mistags.

Do we have a tag for the musical instrument family, horn?

BlueDingo said:
We need to find a way to prevent on_shoulders from being mistagged. It only has a few exceptions right now. We could change this position to shoulder_ride or sitting_on_shoulders which would separate it from the more ambiguous on_shoulders then periodically check on_shoulders for mistags.

Shoulder_ride sounds better, although I'm slightly worried that then those would get tagged as riding instead of carrying.

Riding is an another ambiguous tag, by the way: it's constantly tagged for sex. Instead of actual riding. And not just by one user, newbies often mistag it once or twice before figuring out the usage.

Genjar said:
Shoulder_ride sounds better, although I'm slightly worried that then those would get tagged as riding instead of carrying.

It depends on who's perspective you're using (one riding the other vs. one carrying the other) and some other carrying methods (like piggyback, sometimes referred to as a piggyback ride) can be viewed the same way since the one being carried is taking a ride on the person who is carrying them. If they do get tagged riding, we will simply fix it.

Are there tags to differentiate the different types of radio?

post #6055 post #841701

BlueDingo said:
Are there tags to differentiate the different types of radio?

post #6055 post #841701

walkie_talkie for the first one?

Genjar said:
walkie_talkie for the first one?

Should it be tagged walkie_talkie and radio or just walkie_talkie? If the former, should we implicate walkie_talkie -> radio?

BlueDingo said:
Are there tags to differentiate the different types of radio?

post #6055 post #841701

Genjar said:
walkie_talkie for the first one?

Second one is a boombox.

star - Ball of energy, shape, christmas decoration.

post #1063400 post #731633 post #108830

_{^{PS: Yes, I know the second one isn't an actual star. It's very hard to find an image of the shape up close.}}

BlueDingo said:
star - Ball of energy, shape, christmas decoration.

post #1063400 post #731633 post #108830

_{^{PS: Yes, I know the second one isn't an actual star. It's very hard to find an image of the shape up close.}}

That second one looks like a star shape to me. She's just got that ribbon over her arms.

Does anyone happen to know what the ss tag is for? It's on 104 posts.
And although the first ones are obvious...
post #174424
...lately it's been tagged for Animal Crossing. Eh?

Genjar said:
Does anyone happen to know what the ss tag is for? It's on 104 posts.
And although the first ones are obvious...
post #174424
...lately it's been tagged for Animal Crossing. Eh?

It means Shutzstaffel, it looks like it's been tagged by the same person, meaning they're vandalizing tags instead of using sets.

Yeah, I guess that's it. I can't think of any other possible meanings for the tag, certainly nothing that's related to AC.

Anyway, here's an another one: roll. Mix of roll_(megaman), rolling, curled_up, and occasional sweet_roll. Hasn't been tagged much and it's currently mostly cleaned up, so not worth disambiguating...yet. Unless it gets worse.

cellar

BlueDingo said:
cellar

cellar e621 tag

seems almost entiry used for underground (bdsm) dungeon rooms. the only other propose likly to come up in the community would be a wine_cellar.
salt_cellars,root_cellars and "last game" are proposes that are likly
to never to come up, too obscure. people are more likly to simply use shed or some form of storage to cover the propose root cellar stands for. And i doubly any calls selters from huricance or tornados cellars these days, storm shelter is whats commonly used.

titanmelon said:
bongo | Ge, Sp | instruments and animals

bongo_drum

titanmelon said:
Do we have a tag for the musical instrument family, horn?

There's french_horn and english_horn.

thorax | Ch |

BlueDingo said:
bongo_drum

There's french_horn and english_horn.

Nice!

There should probably be a disambiguation for all those if there aren't already
(Noticed lots of horn stuff going on recently)

titanmelon said:
Nice!

There should probably be a disambiguation for all those if there aren't already
(Noticed lots of horn stuff going on recently)

Can't. French_horn is a brass instrument while english_horn is a woodwind instrument. They're in two different categories.

Not sure where a hollowed out animal's horn (which can be played somewhat like an instrument) would go under.

BlueDingo said:

Meant something like horn_(disambiguation)
:p

most posts in horn seem to be the anatomical type (usually on the head)
with some overlap
so maybe we could leave that as it

It should be easy enough to move the outliers to the other tags when they're found
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As for the animal horn instrument,

• horn_(disambiguation)
• horn_(instrument)
• animal_horn_instrument ?
• alphorn etc
• english_horn
• french_horn
• horn / horn_(anatomy) ?

Wikipedia has a page for Horn_(instrument) and lists a lot of instruments so Horn_(instrument) can work.

We don't use Animal_horn yet. Use that for the instrument versions? Alphorn wouldn't go here because it's made of wood.

• horn
• blunted_horn
• (others)
• horn_(instrument)
• animal_horn / animal_horn_instrument
• (list)
• alphorn
• english_horn
• french_horn

Ouch. Yeah, let's not disambiguate horn; 150000 posts is way too much to sort.
BlueDingo's idea seems good: just move the instruments elsewhere.

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Yeah, sounds like the better thing for now anyway

Focus.
...though that's maybe more messy than ambiguous. Quite a few posts where someone seems to have forgot the underscore from solo_focus and duo_focus.

<3_tail/heart_tail - A heart marking on the tail vs. forming a heart shape with their tail. Sometimes confused with spade_tail.

post #1060264 post #1074958

<3_tail and heart_tail should be aliased.

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protection - armor, protective gear, condom, the act of protecting something

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cannonball - object, action

post #85299 post #948741

teasing, presenting and offering
teasing post #860577

The latter two were already mentioned somewhere already, IIRC
(..that's probably a great cue to update this forum soon)

titanmelon said:
teasing, presenting and offering
teasing post #860577

The latter two were already mentioned somewhere already, IIRC
(..that's probably a great cue to update this forum soon)

Offering has been repurposed for characters presenting/offering objects to someone.

post #232633 post #405733

visor: hat, DBZ scouter, goggles?, helmet screen, metal grate

post #660004 post #1003157 post #1034144 post #196918 post #707968

I'm using visor_cap for the first one.

vent | Ar |

crotch_grab - looks like this is being misused, it's implicated to grope, which specifies one character grabbing another character, not themselves.
post #1115933 post #1115843 post #1089554

JAKXXX3 said:
crotch_grab - looks like this is being misused, it's implicated to grope, which specifies one character grabbing another character, not themselves.
post #1115933 post #1115843 post #1089554

Tag scripted some of those, there's probably still mistags left.

eiffel_tower - Landmark, sex position...

post #670014 post #787143

macaron - food, character. Also macaroon and macaroons.

post #302982post #700913

BlueDingo said:
macaron - food, character. Also macaroon and macaroons.

...that explains a lot. I've always thought that macaron is just a misspelling of macaroni.

I think we should change mutual_masturbation to mutual handjob. It's not really masturbation since They're doing it to each other and it would help with people mistagging it.

Sorrowless said:
I think we should change mutual_masturbation to mutual handjob. It's not really masturbation since their doing it to each other and it would help with people mistagging it.

I agree.
It's been a while since 'mutual_masturbation' was recognized to be an inappropriate name, actually Genjar already stated that before, however apparently nothing was made in order to fix it.

O16 said:
I agree.
It's been a while since 'mutual_masturbation' was recognized to be an inappropriate name, actually Genjar already stated that before, however apparently nothing was made in order to fix it.

We never found a better name for it. Mutual_handjob doesn't work because there's mutual vaginal_fingering mixed in.

And posts such as...
post #1155714

So it can't even split it into mutual_handjob and mutual_fingering. Both tags already exist and should be tagged if they apply, but they're no replacements for mutual_masturbation.

mutual_stimulation?

BlueDingo said:
mutual_stimulation?

Tried suggesting that, but it was thought to be too broad. Could apply to 69 and so on.

Genjar said:
We never found a better name for it. Mutual_handjob doesn't work because there's mutual vaginal_fingering mixed in.

And posts such as...
post #1155714

So it can't even split it into mutual_handjob and mutual_fingering. Both tags already exist and should be tagged if they apply, but they're no replacements for mutual_masturbation.

I don't think handjob for fingering is a big issue. Think of jerking as the opposite to fingering.

BlueDingo said:
mutual_stimulation?

Genjar said:
Tried suggesting that, but it was thought to be too broad. Could apply to 69 and so on.

What if we put a 'manual' in it ('mutual_manual_stimulaion')?

Possible issues:

• Someone may think it refers to two characters "stimulating" their hands (improbable).

• Perhaps a little too long (may be abbreviated).

• Usage of feet, tentacles or telekinesis rather than hands (OK, this one might be problematic).

Pet: petplay mixed in with actual pets, plus some stuff that I can't even figure out.

demon_horns: Wide collection of horns of varying shapes and sizes. ...this is exactly why we shouldn't tag body parts by species.

Not sure if we have any tag for S-shaped horns. Might need to make one.

Genjar said:
demon_horns: Wide collection of horns of varying shapes and sizes. ...this is exactly why we shouldn't tag body parts by species.

Not sure if we have any tag for S-shaped horns. Might need to make one.

Tell that to the Genitalia...

zigzag_horn ?

Genjar said:
demon_horns: Wide collection of horns of varying shapes and sizes. ...this is exactly why we shouldn't tag body parts by species.

Demon is a broad range of creatures with a broad range of horn styles to match. Other species, like sheep, wouldn't have this problem.

Ruku said:
zigzag_horn ?

Zig-zag suggests straight lines and sharp corners. Wavy would be closer.

Cell: could refer to prison/dungeon cells, or biological cells like egg cells.
post #592951 post #1105656

JAKXXX3 said:
Cell: could refer to prison/dungeon cells, or biological cells like egg cells.
post #592951 post #1105656

as well as this fellow post #1087421

BlueDingo said:
Zig-zag suggests straight lines and sharp corners. Wavy would be closer.

true, i only considered the general shape in the creation of that tag, not making a difference between angular and softer forms thru

We have very few horn-shape tags in general, even though there's so much variety. Compare these, for example:
post #495369 post #835201 post #1163245

But they're so hard to describe. That's probably why we don't have tags for mot shapes. ...I wonder if serpentine_horns would work for the first type.

Genjar said:
We have very few horn-shape tags in general, even though there's so much variety. Compare these, for example:
post #495369 post #835201 post #1163245

But they're so hard to describe. That's probably why we don't have tags for mot shapes. ...I wonder if serpentine_horns would work for the first type.

Left thumbnail: maybe it works, but 'sinuous_horn'_empty also is a possibility (personally, I think 'sinuous' sounds better than 'serpentine').

Central thumbnail: 'nose_horn + short_horn'.

Right thumbnail: 'short_horn'.

There is a tag for both puzzle and puzzle_(character). Is a disambiguation useful, with puzzle_(character) and puzzle_(object) or some-such, to avoid people tagging the character as the object? This is especially confusing since the wiki lists puzzle as a character, which it shouldn't be.

Riding often gets tagged for sex, instead of actual riding. at this point, I'm pretty tired of cleaning it. Should probably be disambiguated. Either that, or the users who mistag it should be slapped.

Genjar said:
Riding often gets tagged for sex, instead of actual riding. at this point, I'm pretty tired of cleaning it. Should probably be disambiguated. Either that, or the users who mistag it should be slapped.

I usually end up tagging Mounted for when somebody is on a mount instead of riding. The two are easy to get backwards.

Bonfire - see comment #3272432.

Used to be tagged for fire, but lately it's been tagged for a pony character. Overlaps slightly with campfire.

Drumstick and drumsticks - see forum #233005.

A possible solution would be to alias them both to drumstick_(disambiguation) and split them between the disambiguous forms of drumstick_(food) and drumstick_(instrument).

artist saara is currently aliased to character taral_wayne causing all his stuff to be tagged unknown artist. Apparently taral wayne is also the name of one of his characters?

Shop and store.
Too many regional variations in usage. Might need to disambiguate both and start using tags like general_store and grocery_store. Personally, I'd just alias them.

v Thanks. Replied to that thread.

Genjar said:
Shop and store.
Too many regional variations in usage. Might need to disambiguate both and start using tags like general_store and grocery_store. Personally, I'd just alias them.

An alias suggestion was made a while ago (forum #199704).