Riversyde said:

I would wager that the general quality of ponyporn is much higher here than anywhere else... and you can always, you know, upload some quality stuff yourself.

That is a dumb reply and you should feel dumb.

I am not interesting in the MLP stuff, I am not interested in uploading MLP stuff, and most of what I have came from here, or is already on here.

Emmentaler said:
That is a dumb reply and you should feel dumb.

I am not interesting in the MLP stuff, I am not interested in uploading MLP stuff, and most of what I have came from here, or is already on here.

For bashing on a 'dumb' reply, your own grasp of English and the point, as blunt as it is that you make would be generally considered equally 'dumb'.

Emmentaler said:
I am not interesting

QFT.

Emmentaler said:
I am not interesting

blazenarm said:
QFT.

DQFT

lulzielulz said:
I never said they weren't allowed to draw them. I never said they weren't allowed to share them. What I said was I was getting sick of the sheer quantity of this shit. In just 5 months, MLP has racked up over 1/4 of the pictures on this site that Pokemon has, and Pokemon has been around now for over a decade. Half my front page is regularly missing because it's all MLP shit.

Half my front page is often missing because its shitty Gay art, or renamons ugly ass, or krystals ugly ass. That argument is invalid, aurali's working on a way to FIX it, so shut the fuck up about the pages being half blank or she WONT fix it just to spite you. And for the record, pokemons been around since 1996, my little pony originated in 1981.

Many of the old fans from the series are also the ones who enjoy the new one, and given that for twenty nine years almost no one posted MLP despite the series being around for so long, it was long over due for a massive art boom. Don't like it? Tough shit, the administration says it stays, any argument you give is invalid. Its why I don't bother fighting to have other types removed either. I was going to say this last night but, guess what.

This site don't belong to me, my opinion means next to jack shit in the end, and you're no higher on the food chain. None of the admins mind it, Aurali is verbal about liking it, its not going anywhere. If the stuff they dislike stays up here, I doubt the stuff they like is ever going anywhere, so you may as well go back to playing the "Awesome modern warfare 2"; oh and, I would never boast at being good at such a broken game.

Emmentaler said:
My problem isn't the pony spam.
My problem is the lack of quality porn in the pony spam.

I come here to fap, not to watch images of a pony meme that I can see too if I'd watch the show.

Edit: Or visit /b/ or occasionally, /v/

E621 is an image archive, hosting both pornographic material, as well as clean, and is used by members of the community to look up both adult material, and material that is clean. Some of us use this site as what it is, don't like it? Fchan has plenty of adult images you can look at without all that nasty "Clean" stuff in-between.

Emmentaler said:
That is a dumb reply and you should feel dumb.

I am not interesting in the MLP stuff, I am not interested in uploading MLP stuff, and most of what I have came from here, or is already on here.

If you don't care about MLP stuff, why do you care there's not enough quality porn of it being uploaded, hmm?

Emmentaler said:
I am not interesting

blazenarm said:
QFT.

lulzielulz said:
DQFT

TQFT

Riversyde said:
If you don't care about MLP stuff, why do you care there's not enough quality porn of it being uploaded, hmm?

Mornin Rivuh!

Completely unrelated (although to be fair, plenty of others have gotten OT too) but I LOVE the way the new quote boxes/pyramids look now.

Princess_Celestia said:
Mornin Rivuh!

Evening, RenaDyne :P

blazenarm said:
Completely unrelated (although to be fair, plenty of others have gotten OT too) but I LOVE the way the new quote boxes/pyramids look now.

Yes, they are awesome. We must stack them as much as possible.

Riversyde said:
Evening, RenaDyne :P
Yes, they are awesome. We must stack them as much as possible.

Mother of god.

IT'S LIKE I'M IN EGYPT OR SOMETHING!

Skiltaire said:
No matter how much MLP art gets uploaded, it doesn't affect the amount of other art uploaded. It's just more art overall that's available. Find art that you like, and upload it to share it with others. If everyone does that, there'll be plenty for everyone to enjoy.

AND A VOICE OF REASON CRIES OUT IN THE DARK! Thank Thor for people like you, Skiltaire.

Emmentaler said:
My problem isn't the pony spam.
My problem is the lack of quality porn in the pony spam.

I come here to fap, not to watch images of a pony meme that I can see too if I'd watch the show.

Lean in close, my friend, and I shall tell you a secret of the pr0ns. Now don't go spreading this around, this is a gem of wisdom I have spent years developing: *big breath* E621 USES TAGS FOR A GODDAMN REASON. If you don't want to see things that aren't porn, search "-rating:s," for Christ's sake. Then you won't get ANYTHING that doesn't at least have a bitch in skimpy clothes. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, use the fucking tag system. It's there, it works, it's consistently being improved and cleaned up. Fuck.

blazenarm said:
Completely unrelated (although to be fair, plenty of others have gotten OT too) but I LOVE the way the new quote boxes/pyramids look now.

and we aren't done yet <3 also, you can search -friendship_is_magic

Not to mention that the whole "I don't like it, so don't upload it" argument is retarded from the ground up. Obviously other users do like it, so it makes sense for them to upload it. If you don't like what you're seeing, find stuff you do like and upload it; then things will balance out.

Ya know.. it really comes down to one fact...

My little pony is here. It's STAYING. we're not banning it.

So. your choices are simple:

1) Learn to enjoy the pony art.
2) Learn to blacklist, and DEAL with the effect that blacklisting currently has.
3) Go the fuck away to some other booru that disallows ponies.

Please note that option 4 (Whine until people see your logic and ban ponies) is not on the list. Although option 5 is an option, let me put it on the list for you:

5) Whine until people see your logic and ban you.

So.. Pick one. :)

lulzielulz said:
What I said was I was getting sick of the sheer quantity of this shit. In just 5 months, MLP has racked up over 1/4 of the pictures on this site that Pokemon has, and Pokemon has been around now for over a decade. Half my front page is regularly missing because it's all MLP shit.

Agreed.
RenaDyne, the MLP series has been around since 1981, yes. But the whole series is not the issue, it's FiM... which has not been around near as long. So that statistic doesn't mean shit.

Hey, I'm not against MLP anymore. Bring on as much as you want, it's fine with me, and I hope you guys have fun with it. But damn, it's annoying to see people saying, "lol they got nothing on ponies" and then blatantly disregard points like in the quote above, opting instead to treat anyone who doesn't love ponies like morons. We're not. Simple truth, simple fact - generalizations are almost always false.

qwaszxq said:
generalizations are almost always false.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

RedOctober said:
Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Generalizations can be absolutes, too.

RedOctober said:
Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

<3

SnowWolf said:
Ya know.. it really comes down to one fact...

My little pony is here. It's STAYING. we're not banning it.

So. your choices are simple:

1) Learn to enjoy the pony art.
2) Learn to blacklist, and DEAL with the effect that blacklisting currently has.
3) Go the fuck away to some other booru that disallows ponies.

Please note that option 4 (Whine until people see your logic and ban ponies) is not on the list. Although option 5 is an option, let me put it on the list for you:

5) Whine until people see your logic and ban you.

So.. Pick one. :)

On number 2... You realize at this point no less than 25% of all art uploaded here per day is MLP FiM art, right? You're just saying MLP is staying because without it, this site would have nothing. ;)

lulzielulz said:
On number 2... You realize at this point no less than 25% of all art uploaded here per day is MLP FiM art, right? You're just saying MLP is staying because without it, this site would have nothing. ;)

No the site would just drop to pre FiM levels.. which wasn't too bad anyway

lulzielulz said:
You realize at this point no less than 25% of all art uploaded here per day is MLP FiM art, right? You're just saying MLP is staying because without it, this site would have nothing. ;)

Well fuck me sideways and call me Jezabel, I didn't realise that 25%=100%.

Not to mention the huge catalog of art that was already on the site before the Ponysplosion.

I think the ponies are silly, but I'd eat a shitting dick nipple before I bitched about something so easily ignored and blacklisted. I think you'd do best picking door number three.

RedOctober said:
Well fuck me sideways and call me Jezabel, I didn't realise that 25%=100%.

Not to mention the huge catalog of art that was already on the site before the Ponysplosion.

I think the ponies are silly, but I'd eat a shitting dick nipple before I bitched about something so easily ignored and blacklisted. I think you'd do best picking door number three.

No one asked you for your massively exaggerated and entirely insincere input.

lulzielulz said:
No one asked you for your massively exaggerated and entirely insincere input.

No one asked for yours either, but there it is. This is the forum, bub, everyone gets to input whether anyone else likes it or not, until an admin decides to make it go away. Yes, I used hyperbole. The point remains that banning MLP would NOT leave this site empty. You are equally guilty of exaggeration as I on that respect.

I was totally sincere about the shitting dick nipples part. I don't whine about the ponies because I know how to operate the tag system, and actually do so.

lulzielulz said:
No one asked you for your massively exaggerated and entirely insincere input.

The same could be said of you.

EDIT: Grr shoulda refreshed.

RedOctober said:
No one asked for yours either, but there it is. This is the forum, bub, everyone gets to input whether anyone else likes it or not, until an admin decides to make it go away. Yes, I used hyperbole. The point remains that banning MLP would NOT leave this site empty. You are equally guilty of exaggeration as I on that respect.

I was totally sincere about the shitting dick nipples part. I don't whine about the ponies because I know how to operate the tag system, and actually do so.

I'm at least trying to broach a point legitimately. You're not even addressing it. All you're doing is taking everything I say, warping it, being a dick about it and throwing it back in my face. So far this diagram adequately represents your reasoning: http://yadavhistory.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/circular-reasoning11.316172939_std.jpg

Blazenarm said:
The same could be said of you.

EDIT: Grr shoulda refreshed.

If you really think the points I'm broaching are insincere and exaggerated, then you are either trolling or arguing because you don't know any better.

lulzielulz said:
On number 2... You realize at this point no less than 25% of all art uploaded here per day is MLP FiM art, right? You're just saying MLP is staying because without it, this site would have nothing. ;)

So... that means, that the part of the site you're actually interested in is nothing?

Then why are you still here?

lulzielulz said:
I'm at least trying to broach a point legitimately. You're not even addressing it. All you're doing is taking everything I say, warping it, being a dick about it and throwing it back in my face. So far this diagram adequately represents your reasoning: http://yadavhistory.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/circular-reasoning11.316172939_std.jpg

I'll certainly admit to being a dick. But you did say

You're just saying MLP is staying because without it, this site would have nothing. ;)

which is pretty exaggerated. So...Yeah, I think the points you're broaching are exaggerated. Circular reasoning isn't really what I was doing. More like reductio ad absurdium, which is a logically fallacious form of argument, but being a fallacy does not invalidate it entirely. The particular details of my statements may have been assholish, but the nuggets of my argument are still there. I'll recap them for you, sans sarcasm:
1. No, e621 would not have nothing if MLP was banned. This is because a) there are still plenty of non-MLP posts uploaded daily, and b) there are so many thousands of non-MLP pics that were around before MLP started.
2. I also don't like the ponies, but I get over it because it's easy to use the tags to avoid them in various ways. I'm a furry, for fuck sake, I'm not going to begrudge someone else their weird likings just because I don't enjoy it.
3. If you can't deal with the ponies in the ways provided (i.e. blacklisting, learning to appreciate some of it, or just generally not giving a damn about them), then SnowWolf is not so far off in suggesting you find another site where ponies are not.
4. I inserted exaggeration into my statement to point out the silliness of your exaggeration.
Not to mention that I find exaggeration humorous in general.

I hope that was acceptably sincere, and I promise no sarcasm or exaggeration was included, and any dickishness was unintentional. Including this paragraph.

@lulzielulz: So you're basically saying the 25% does equal 100%? Ah, a victim of the Texas school system, I presume?

lulzielulz said:
I'm at least trying to broach a point legitimately. You're not even addressing it. All you're doing is taking everything I say, warping it, being a dick about it and throwing it back in my face.

Also, you're doing the same thing. You're harassing people, you're insulting people, you're complaining about something that a legitimate portion of the population enjoys, and you're generally being a dick. And yet... you've been here less then 10 days. you've uploaded nothing. You have 4 tag edits. What makes US--users with hundreds or thousands of uploads, tag edits, wiki edits, etc--think you're 'worth' keeping around?

If you had, perhaps, a more legitimate suggestion other then 'get rid of it', then perhaps people would listen to you, but the truth of the matter is, getting 'rid' of all of it and reprimanding people for posting it would piss off a lot of people, and we would go BELOW what we were preponisplosion.

SnowWolf said:
preponisplosion.

:-D

Shatari said:
@lulzielulz: So you're basically saying the 25% does equal 100%? Ah, a victim of the Texas school system, I presume?

Laughed so hard I gave myself a bloody nose.

SnowWolf said:
Also, you're doing the same thing. You're harassing people, you're insulting people, you're complaining about something that a legitimate portion of the population enjoys, and you're generally being a dick. And yet... you've been here less then 10 days. you've uploaded nothing. You have 4 tag edits. What makes US--users with hundreds or thousands of uploads, tag edits, wiki edits, etc--think you're 'worth' keeping around?

If you had, perhaps, a more legitimate suggestion other then 'get rid of it', then perhaps people would listen to you, but the truth of the matter is, getting 'rid' of all of it and reprimanding people for posting it would piss off a lot of people, and we would go BELOW what we were preponisplosion.

Harassing other people my ass. Apparently you've also ignored just about everything I've said so far sans the parts you can pull apart to be a cunt.

You nor any of the other users involved here are innocent of anything you're accusing me of. The only reason people can come up with for saving MLP is "Because we said so" from the admins and "well then we have to ban everything else too" from the MLP supporters. In other words, no legitimate reasons from the admins and a slippery slope argument from others.

Once more, you're not providing any legitimate reason to keep it either. Apparently 'spam' which seems to be against the rules is allowed for MLP. Don't ask me or others to prove the spamming AGAIN, it's been done endlessly in this thread and it's been willfully ignored every time because it's a legitimate reason and you can't handle that.

Considering mods and admins warn me and rate up other users just because they have the power to do so, do you REALLY think I'm going to actually want to share my own art with you lot? No, they'll take it down purely because "Oh, I don't like him and it's his work, get rid of it" or they'll take one look at it and decide to whimsically ban me. It's not the first time they've done that either. Which works fine for the admins, but apparently others who want something gone have to have 'legitimate reasons' for it. Apparently a legitimate reason is bludgeoning a few admins until they do it, because they're too far into their power trips and egos to listen to anything logical.

That being said, I'm done with you wankers. My newest Gundam model's just arrived and considering nothing here is going to change and the only response you can come up with is "STFU and deal with it or GTFO", I have other things to do.

lulzielulz said:
Long winded rant

Yes yes, Ignore the perfectly viable arguments counter to your own, and do exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. Sure, why not. You go ahead and do you're little "Gundam model", you won't be missed :D

So obvious that so many people did not read (or comprehend) my first post in this thread.

And several pages back, I said:

No matter how much MLP art gets uploaded, it doesn't affect the amount of other art uploaded. It's just more art overall that's available. Find art that you like, and upload it to share it with others. If everyone does that, there'll be plenty for everyone to enjoy.

And the argument just kind of flowed around me, and kept on going. I think I now have some insight into how Fluttershy feels when she's trying to be assertive :)

lulzielulz said:
You nor any of the other users involved here are innocent of anything you're accusing me of. The only reason people can come up with for saving MLP is "Because we said so" from the admins and "well then we have to ban everything else too" from the MLP supporters. In other words, no legitimate reasons from the admins and a slippery slope argument from others.

Well, there's the tried and oft repeated: "It's anthro related art that falls well within the boundaries of this sites intended purpose." Really, even if it wasn't popular it would still fit into the scope of this site's purpose.

lulzielulz said:
Apparently 'spam' which seems to be against the rules is allowed for MLP.

It's not really spam if there's no reason it shouldn't be here.

lulzielulz said:
Considering mods and admins warn me and rate up other users just because they have the power to do so, do you REALLY think I'm going to actually want to share my own art with you lot? No, they'll take it down purely because "Oh, I don't like him and it's his work, get rid of it" or they'll take one look at it and decide to whimsically ban me. It's not the first time they've done that either. Which works fine for the admins, but apparently others who want something gone have to have 'legitimate reasons' for it. Apparently a legitimate reason is bludgeoning a few admins until they do it, because they're too far into their power trips and egos to listen to anything logical.

Two things:
1. Did you just try to pull the victim card? And prematurely at that, since your excuse is that the mods/admins will conspire to delete your posts and ban you simply because they don't like you? That's not healthy and you should get an evaluation asap.
2. Are you admitting to ban evasion?

Yes, yes I think we can all agree that lulzielulz is the bad guy and must be sacrificed to Lord Cthulhu, but we're losing sight of the issue at hand, and that is...er...global warming?

Locking this, like I should have a long time ago.