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I don't understand why they'd want it.

I can understand Nintendo getting into the smartphone market with their recent partnership with DeNA, but I don't understand this and it's purpose.

Simply put, I'm a die-hard Nintendo fanboy, so I have a broader knowledge of that instead of FurAffinity.

Ain't imvu that sub-par Second Life clone?

What does this mean for traffic on FA and here?

Peekaboo said:
Ain't imvu that sub-par Second Life clone?

Signed up for shits and giggles. Sub-par doesn't even begin to describe it

You can't even walk.

It's like two idiot superheroes putting their rings of power together or something.

Happy not-April Fools everybody!

Here's to hoping they up the resolution limit to stay at least somewhat relevant.

Probably they just noticed that the flux of Furry porn it's a good market.

I'm just annoyed that my FA inbox is full of journals of people saying that they're leaving, and even more journals by people who think those people are being retarded for leaving.

At least Neer is not the owner anymore.
Gonna be fun to see how/if imvu fucks up.

dragonner needed more Cheeto cash

Now if I see an IMVU ad online I'll need to contain my laughter.

Personally, I don't like IMVU. Now, you might say "how can you not like it if you haven't tried it?" Well, I just don't... I can't explain why

Now, I wonder what is Patchi's opinion on this (yeah, I like her sarcasm c: )

Lance_Armstrong said:
Now if I see an IMVU ad online I'll need to contain my laughter.

Laugh

Y would anyone want imvu it's trash 2nd life rip off with no nudity or sex animations allowed. Also apparently dragonner only had 50% hold on the ownership of the site and someone else owns the other 50% and had no say in the sale of fa or something.

Xch3l said:
Laugh

Honestly not as bad as I was expecting based on the comments I saw on the journal. I was expecting them to look more like this

memeboy said:
no nudity or sex animations allowed.

They don't allow nudity or sex but buy a furry website full of the most fucked up fetishes you could think of, and then even more that you probably couldn't even imagine. I don't understand.

Tuvalu said:
Honestly not as bad as I was expecting based on the comments I saw on the journal. I was expecting them to look more like this .

Duh, obviously, they won't present an actual screenshot. Instead, they preferred to present a better render. That's how advertising works (not in all cases, of course, but in most) :/

Xch3l said:
Laugh

fur33mainstr33m

Here are some comments from the journal:

and

https://twitter.com/panderp/status/578647385976500224
https://twitter.com/panderp/status/578662065549783040

Lance_Armstrong said:

and

https://twitter.com/panderp/status/578647385976500224
https://twitter.com/panderp/status/578662065549783040[/section][/quote]

I'm curious, where can I find proof that this guy Arcturus owns any part of the site that he has openly expressed hating?

Maybe now they can afford to buy more servers that they won't set up, and ad revenue to fund fagoneer's child sexin'-filled vacations in Europe keep the site 504ing running.

PheagleAdler said:
I'm curious, where can I find proof that this guy Arcturus owns any part of the site that he has openly expressed hating?

I don't know anything about FAnything. I'm sure someone here knows more.

Imvu has been pushing furry stuff for a long time, so them buying FA, the biggest furry website out there..makes sense....sorta

I don't know what their going to do with it

This is like Facebook buying oculus rift

RustyDildos said:
Imvu has been pushing furry stuff for a long time, so them buying FA, the biggest furry website out there..makes sense....sorta

Considering that they don't allow adult material, and FA is just a huge cesspit of porn and horrible fetishes, it really doesn't make any sense at all.
Add to that that imvu is largely driven by microtransactions, you can kinda suspect that they might try and sneak some of em' into FA.

It would have made sense if Linden Labs bought FA, but not imvu.

It all just seem more shady by the post.
Piche sold the site without even discussing it with the other owner?
Wait, Arcturus partly owns FA?
The transaction happened months ago?
wut

Peekaboo said:

Wait, Arcturus partly owns FA?

This, to me, is probably the most confusing part of all this.

Peekaboo said:
Considering that they don't allow adult material, and FA is just a huge cesspit of porn and horrible fetishes, it really doesn't make any sense at all.

Sure they do.
There's almost as much porn on IMVU as on Second Life. It's allowed, as long as it's not public. Just google search for 'imvu porn'.

I had no idea that it's popular among furries, though. I know that IMVU sells some furry avatars (including nudes), but I had assumed that it's very marginal there..

Genjar said:
There's almost as much porn on IMVU as on Second Life. It's allowed, as long as it's not public.

Alright.
Edit: Holy crap that looks like shite. I thought that Second Life porn was laughably poor in quality, but daaaamn!

From the new Q&A it seems that P. Piche is still the head honcho of the site. Odd.

parasprite said:
This, to me, is probably the most confusing part of all this.

Might have been kept secret due to his dreadful performance here on E6.

Peekaboo said:
Might have been kept secret due to his dreadful performance here on E6.

You're right, they prefer to hide people like that from PR to make room for reputable hackers. :p

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6592397/

Xch3l said:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6592397/

Offline again. :V

parasprite said:
This, to me, is probably the most confusing part of all this.

I don't know specifically how owning a website works, but it's probably similar enough to how shareholders can own a company, which means that a partial owner can have all kinds of weird relationships with their own proprietaries. It isn't the same as owning a piece of land, so let's say you own a majority share of Walmart, you could still get kicked out and banned from any Walmart store for doing something illegal there, but it wouldn't affect your shareholdings at all.

Anyway, I say this is a good thing. A for-profit agency owning FA? Hopefully they finally make it so that users have to pay the artist something to look at adult art.

furballs_dc said:
Offline again. :V

It works for me

Ozelot said:
Anyway, I say this is a good thing. A for-profit agency owning FA? Hopefully they finally make it so that users have to pay the artist something to look at adult art.

Nah. That's why most have chosen to use Patreon or PayPal

I really hope that something bad will happen to FA. People there deserve everything bad that happens to them. I thought that it would be difficult to top suddenly removing comment section under site announcement because suddenly found performance issues, but this shit has potential.
I love watching world burn. ^_^

Granberia said:
I really hope that something bad will happen to FA. People there deserve everything bad that happens to them. I thought that it would be difficult to top suddenly removing comment section under site announcement because suddenly found performance issues, but this shit has potential.
I love watching world burn. ^_^

Not cool. I would never wish harm on anyone with the exception of extreme cases, and a single website is certainly not reason enough.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Not cool. I would never wish harm on anyone with the exception of extreme cases, and a single website is certainly not reason enough.

But we can wish harm to cockroaches, flies and mosquitos, right?

Xch3l said:
But we can wish harm to cockroaches, flies and mosquitos, right?

Flies are actually pretty cool. Houseflies that is, those nasty amazonian things that lays eggs in living beings can suck a duck for all I care.

Xch3l said:
But we can wish harm to cockroaches, flies and mosquitos, right?

Don't be a speciesist. Not every president we elect has to be a wolf or a fox.

Ozelot said:
Don't be a speciesist. Not every president we elect has to be a wolf or a fox.

Is it bad that I think Obama would fit well as a rottweiler?

TheHuskyK9 said:
Is it bad that I think Obama would fit well as a rottweiler?

Nonsense, Democrats are all cold wet fish.

Peekaboo said:
Flies are actually pretty cool. Houseflies that is, those nasty amazonian things that lays eggs in living beings can suck a duck for all I care.

I hate houseflies, specially when they buzz in front of me or try to get in my ears.

Ozelot said:
Don't be a speciesist. Not every president we elect has to be a wolf or a fox.

Uh... I wasn't referring to any gov't. Even if ours is the worstest (yeh, it's that bad). We did elect a Fox for president, though

Xch3l said:
We did elect a Fox for president, though

...And my first thought is wondering if he's ever been the subject of furry art yet... =P

Xch3l said:
We did elect a Fox for president, though

We've elected a teddy bear, a dick, and a lazy cat that hates mondays

It's begun. https://www.furaffinity.net/view/16059728/

An Interview With Dragoneer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRsPE1BbB8#t=41

TheHuskyK9 said:
We've elected a teddy bear,

Also known as the most badass politician ever

Durandal said:
Also known as the most badass politician ever

Hell yeah

Ozelot said:
Don't be a speciesist. Not every president we elect has to be a wolf or a fox.

lol (sorry for going off topic) thats funny since a mmo i recently started playing called project gorgon lets certain bosses/NPC's change you into different animals which usually results in NPC merchants and whatnot saying speciesist stuff about your character.

um, cow, pig, spider, wolf, deer...bird if you train druid skill (classless skill system btw), i think thats most or all forms so far and the game has surprisingly few major bugs from what i've seen despite being in alpha stage of development.

furrypickle said:
...And my first thought is wondering if he's ever been the subject of furry art yet... =P

if you mean obama, i can say yes, i think i remember seeing a horrible mlp:fim pic (NSFW) with him in it that i'd rather not see again. (bad pic imo)

derpibooru > search obama > 143 results >.> no thanks, i like my ponies to remain ponies in or out of porn. not human, not humanized (humans, i see enough of them irl, not particularly interested in them in general), just normal ponies.

treos said:
if you mean obama, i can say yes, i think i remember seeing a horrible mlp:fim pic (NSFW) with him in it that i'd rather not see again. (bad pic imo)

derpibooru > search obama > 143 results >.> no thanks, i like my ponies to remain ponies in or out of porn. not human, not humanized (humans, i see enough of them irl, not particularly interested in them in general), just normal ponies.

Naw, I meant Vincente Fox which Xch3l mentioned, who was (at one point) the Presidente of Mexico. Given his name, it made me wonder if he had any furry art of him anthropomorphized into an actual fox, even if it was just as a political cartoon and not from the furry community even. If it never happened, then it was a missed opportunity.

But that is interesting about Obama, esp mlp obama which I wouldn't have guessed there'd be much of that. But I guess it's the internet, so that was inevitable sooner or later, right? lol

I looked up Vicente on the webs, saw nothing

The train wreck continues. :/

RioluKid said:

An Interview With Dragoneer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRsPE1BbB8#t=41

"Half of our users don't even know what IMVU was! Because IMVU sucks and only kids use it..."

So true,I just realized what it is.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Not cool. I would never wish harm on anyone with the exception of extreme cases, and a single website is certainly not reason enough.

Come on, you know I've meant everything bad that happens to the site (and indirectly to them), not getting cancer or being murdered.
They are fond of using term "pedos" for people on IB on their forum while there's dog fucker, and maybe someone even worse, on their staff. They have no sympathy from me when something bad happens to FA.

Granberia said:
Come on, you know I've meant everything bad that happens to the site (and indirectly to them), not getting cancer or being murdered.
They are fond of using term "pedos" for people on IB on their forum while there's dog fucker, and maybe someone even worse, on their staff. They have no sympathy from me when something bad happens to FA.

un excuse me but people are aware of the dev and do call him a dog fucker, and also people on ink bunny are pedos

LOL, it turns out that IMVU is selling artwork of people from FA without even crediting them. :D
I would not be surprised if new FA TOS will state that now IMVU have rights to do that. Like Instagram did or still do.

Granberia said:
LOL, it turns out that IMVU is selling artwork of people from FA without even crediting them. :D
I would not be surprised if new FA TOS will state that now IMVU have rights to do that. Like Instagram did or still do.

No proof.

Ozelot said:
No proof.

Here's thread with this:
https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/1353961-FA-IMVU-Discussion?p=5111682#post5111682

And here's one of pics:
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=16211166
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7250797/

Granberia said:
Here's thread with this:
https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/1353961-FA-IMVU-Discussion?p=5111682#post5111682

And here's one of pics:
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=16211166
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7250797/

A link to a random thread saying nothing and some posted pictures from over three years ago?

No proof.

Granberia said:
Here's thread with this:
https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/1353961-FA-IMVU-Discussion?p=5111682#post5111682

And here's one of pics:
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=16211166
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7250797/

Hahaha, holy shit, that is amazing.
It only took em' one day as well.
Gonna be fun to see them defend that.

Peekaboo said:
Hahaha, holy shit, that is amazing.
It only took em' one day as well.
Gonna be fun to see them defend that.

The pictures are from over three years ago, look closely at the dates. It isn't from recently.

Ozelot said:
The pictures are from over three years ago, look closely at the dates. It isn't from recently.

Yet they are still selling it. Without even crediting the artist. I haven't said that they started selling it now.

Ozelot said:
The pictures are from over three years ago, look closely at the dates. It isn't from recently.

Oh, come on! There's even this!

This product is provided by a third-party seller, MissHarleyQuin, who has warranted that they have all appropriate rights to any content involved. IMVU takes copyright infringment seriously. To learn more about our policy, including takedown procedures, please click here. For more on the IMVU Creator program, which lets you create items for sale in the IMVU catalog, please click here.

Xch3l said:
Oh, come on! There's even this!

That's obviously a disclaimer that protects IMVU from direct liability on part of the actions of a specific user. So one user who is using their service violated their terms of agreement and is trying to sell Falvie's art.

It isn't specifically IMVU that you could do this sort of thing on. I could go to any site that I can upload content and upload Falvie's art, claim it was mine, and attempt to profit off it if I wanted.

The problem is the artist probably has to do a takedown and they aren't even aware of it. I see stuff exactly like this on SL and Tumblr all the time.

Peekaboo said:
Gonna be fun to see them defend that.

Well, there's the first one. I love how (s)he quickly changes the subject without admitting that (s)he was lying.
Ozelot: No proof!
Other: This is proof.
Ozelot: Everybody is doing that!

Everyone IS doing it though.

Peekaboo said:
Hahaha, holy shit, that is amazing.
It only took em' one day as well.
Gonna be fun to see them defend that.

As Ozelot pointed out, those are sold by the users.
Just like on Second Life, most of the content is user-created and sold under the assumption that the user who's selling it made it themselves.

IMVU only checks it if someone reports it. So there's tons of stuff that breaks all kinds of copyrights, ranging from Disney and Star Wars to furry images.

Genjar said:
IMVU only checks it if someone reports it. So there's tons of stuff that breaks all kinds of copyrights, ranging from Disney and Star Wars to furry images.

Very well, got a point.
Edit: ye https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6595721

Genjar said:
As Ozelot pointed out, those are sold by the users.
Just like on Second Life, most of the content is user-created and sold under the assumption that the user who's selling it made it themselves.

My bad. Forgot about that.

IMVU only checks it if someone reports it. So there's tons of stuff that breaks all kinds of copyrights, ranging from Disney and Star Wars to furry images.

Not only on IMVU, but everywhere too... :/

---

So, all this said, it's not really IMVU who is selling artwork without artist's permission, even though they get a small portion of the profits¹. They're only guilty of displaying the item.

_{¹: I don't really know how the game's economy system works, though. I'm just assuming that they do get something}

Click the MissHarleyQuinn link

http://www.imvu.com/shop/web_search.php?manufacturers_id=47678253

Falvie, spazzykoneko and other artists being sold by the same user.

Do y'all know what is the best thing?

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6596556#cid:44946412
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6595721/#cid:44941239
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6588936/#cid:44897353
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6588324/#cid:44892779

furrypickle said:
Naw, I meant Vincente Fox which Xch3l mentioned, who was (at one point) the Presidente of Mexico. Given his name, it made me wonder if he had any furry art of him anthropomorphized into an actual fox, even if it was just as a political cartoon and not from the furry community even. If it never happened, then it was a missed opportunity.

But that is interesting about Obama, esp mlp obama which I wouldn't have guessed there'd be much of that. But I guess it's the internet, so that was inevitable sooner or later, right? lol

R34, if it exists...

furrypickle said:
Naw, I meant Vincente Fox which Xch3l mentioned, who was (at one point) the Presidente of Mexico. Given his name, it made me wonder if he had any furry art of him anthropomorphized into an actual fox, even if it was just as a political cartoon and not from the furry community even. If it never happened, then it was a missed opportunity.

Oh, dang, forgot about this (thanks treos). Fox had a running joke about his boots and his catchphrase ("chiquillos y chiquillas", meaning " boys and girls". Often made fun as "[male word] and [female word]" with a deep voice).

I agree, though. News missed an opportunity. I'd have to check on the mexican furs section but I doubt it :/

I've seen some of the previous presidents (mostly Benito Juarez) as *shudders* MLP ponies

That's fun. http://i.gyazo.com/908e9ac93bcd4243d05d577355b5b652.png
Even more fun. https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/1353961-FA-IMVU-Discussion?p=5109610&viewfull=1#post5109610

Signs of a permanent exodus from FA?

Lance_Armstrong said:
Signs of a permanent exodus from FA?

You know pretty well that even if it turned out that dragoneer had sold their souls to the devil months ago it still wouldn't be enough reason to leave FA for most of the people. I don't believe in any real exodus unless nuclear missiles are involved.

Meanwhile on twitter:

Zidobunny ‏@Zidonuke
If you care about your user data, submission view/search history, private messages, Leave FA immediately.

Yes, it's this zidonuke. :D

I also I've found this and I think I might have been too hard on staff here. I mean, pending implications/aliases are only 6 months old. Looking FA timeline put this in the new perspective.

I found an addon on Firefox that lets me download whole galleries and favorites.

I'm saving them now before more people inevitably jump ship and delete their galleries.

It's such a shame to see this happen.

Granberia said:
I don't believe in any real exodus unless nuclear missiles are involved.

"And the Lord said unto Moses, 'Thou shalt be wary of nuclear fallout.'"

Just bumping this thread again since I thought it would be relevant.

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9761295

Apparently Fur Affinity is under the independent ownership of Dragoneer again, under the new company - Frost Dragon Art, LLC.
I kinda wonder what are the actual changes that have happened to the site during the past 6 years with IMVU.

Will anything actually be different now that they're independent?