The bulk update request #4451 is pending approval.

create alias moushley (681) -> moushley_(meme) (9)
create alias moushly (0) -> moushley_(meme) (9)
create alias moushley_graham (0) -> moushley_(meme) (9)
create implication moushley_(meme) (9) -> furrification (8172)
create alias ashley_graham_(resident_evil) (816) -> ashley_graham (0)

Reason: vote for this BUR to turn the current moushley tag into the copyright tag moushley_(meme), for use with mousifications of resident evil 4 characters in the same style as the current moushley trend

art that would be tagged with moushley_(meme) if this bur goes through:
post #3975120 post #3967685

if you want to see moushley be aliased into ashley_graham, vote for topic #37975

(note that both have the alias ashley_graham_(resident_evil) -> ashley_graham formula, so either one you vote for will have that go through)

Is Moushley an actual character? Or just the character drawn as an (unofficial) alternate_species that happens to be a mouse? If it's just the character as an alternate_species, which seems to be the case according to the wiki, it should be aliased to the character tag.

watsit said:
Is Moushley an actual character? Or just the character drawn as an (unofficial) alternate_species that happens to be a mouse? If it's just the character as an alternate_species, which seems to be the case according to the wiki, it should be aliased to the character tag.

As far as I can tell as a non-fan, it looks like Moushley is just Ashley drawn as a mouse instead of a human. I agree that an alias to Ashley Graham (Resident Evil) is the better route.

watsit said:
Is Moushley an actual character? Or just the character drawn as an (unofficial) alternate_species that happens to be a mouse? If it's just the character as an alternate_species, which seems to be the case according to the wiki, it should be aliased to the character tag.

yeah it's basically just a furrification of a pre-existing character

i saw the tag moushley going around and just went with it, but checking up on the #tag-discussions channel on the discord when i asked about it yesterday vets seemed pretty lukewarm to the idea of having a unique tag just for ashley graham but mouse (blame me for not checking it, i honestly just forgot that i posted over there until i started writing this)

i'll probably edit this bur to be an alias instead of an implication, if that's not against guidelines

dripen_arn said:
i'll probably edit this bur to be an alias instead of an implication, if that's not against guidelines

There's nothing against an edit like this. That's one of the advantages of a BUR.

clawstripe said:
There's nothing against an edit like this. That's one of the advantages of a BUR.

BUR life, BUR grind

never getting off of this BUR ride, BUR bind

ashley graham is already a character tag with an implication to resident_evil. Does the name need to be disambiguated with a suffix? It seems a bunch of tags were changed to have an unnecessary _(resident_evil) suffix by someone who was banned for tagging vandalism. They should probably be mass updated to de-suffix them.

watsit said:
ashley graham is already a character tag with an implication to resident_evil. Does the name need to be disambiguated with a suffix? It seems a bunch of tags were changed to have an unnecessary _(resident_evil) suffix by someone who was banned for tagging vandalism. They should probably be mass updated to de-suffix them.

idk what makes the suffixes useless, like what if some wholly unrelated ashley graham comes in? even with a suffixed tag of their own (e.g. ashley_graham_(character_owner)) then the plain jane non-suffixed ashley graham tag would be ambiguous to what property it belongs to, and at worst could be missed tagged into the completely different ashley_graham

granted, i'm deliberately making up a situation that hasn't happened yet, and the ashley from resident evil will come to people's mind first over any other that could possibly emerge even after years of establishment. i'm just making a case for keeping the suffix is all

dripen_arn said:
idk what makes the suffixes useless

When it comes to suffixes, they have a habit of making tag name unnecessarily long. ashley_graham_(resident_evil) is about twice as long as ashley_graham, and that extra length makes the tag list messy because of added line wraps. If a character name seems unique enough (which is considered on a case-by-case basis), it's preferred to leave the suffix off. In this case, ashley_graham already has implications associated with it, so unless there's a reason to disambiguate the tag (removing it's implications, aliasing it to ashley_graham_(disambiguation), etc), that should be the tag used for the character since it was already there.

watsit said:
When it comes to suffixes, they have a habit of making tag name unnecessarily long. ashley_graham_(resident_evil) is about twice as long as ashley_graham, and that extra length makes the tag list messy because of added line wraps. If a character name seems unique enough (which is considered on a case-by-case basis), it's preferred to leave the suffix off. In this case, ashley_graham already has implications associated with it, so unless there's a reason to disambiguate the tag (removing it's implications, aliasing it to ashley_graham_(disambiguation), etc), that should be the tag used for the character since it was already there.

bur has been edited

I'm not sure about the ashley_graham_(resident_evil) -> ashley_graham alias, unless there's a concern someone will try to use the tag again. One-off updates can be done with update ashley_graham_(resident_evil) -> ashley_graham, there's no need for an alias if the tag's not likely to be used ever again.

watsit said:
I'm not sure about the ashley_graham_(resident_evil) -> ashley_graham alias, unless there's a concern someone will try to use the tag again. One-off updates can be done with update ashley_graham_(resident_evil) -> ashley_graham, there's no need for an alias if the tag's not likely to be used ever again.

what can i say, i'm a big fan of redundancy

Why not simply change the Moushley tag to "Copyright" and alias it with "Meme"? Like how it is for Bowsette.

mcdonaldschicken15 said:
Why not simply change the Moushley tag to "Copyright" and alias it with "Meme"? Like how it is for Bowsette.

Bowsette is a bit different since it pertains to a particular joke scenario of Bowser getting a Toadette "power up" to become a Bowser/Toadette cross. The Bowsette meme isn't just Bowser as a humanoid female, while Moushley is just Ashley as a mouse. One could make an argument that any old picture of Bowsette shouldn't be tagged with the meme (much like how a NSFW feral feline shouldn't be tagged with a_cat_is_fine_too), but there's still more to Bowsette being a meme than Moushley.

mcdonaldschicken15 said:
Why not simply change the Moushley tag to "Copyright" and alias it with "Meme"? Like how it is for Bowsette.

If we were to go the copyright route, I'd rather the tag be something like what_if_you_booted_up_resident_evil_4_remake_and_Ashley_was_just_a_tiny_mouse. There's at least one mouse Salazar image out there that portrays the character similarly, which presumably could justify this mouse-RE4 tag.

watsit said:
Bowsette is a bit different since it pertains to a particular joke scenario of Bowser getting a Toadette "power up" to become a Bowser/Toadette cross. The Bowsette meme isn't just Bowser as a humanoid female, while Moushley is just Ashley as a mouse. One could make an argument that any old picture of Bowsette shouldn't be tagged with the meme (much like how a NSFW feral feline shouldn't be tagged with a_cat_is_fine_too), but there's still more to Bowsette being a meme than Moushley.

i'll play devils advocate by pointing out that moushley has a very distinct character design, and though the art i'm about to bring up was probably made in responce to the first moushley image (being posted the same day as each other, there is one piece that renders Ashley Graham as a mouse/rat that i would not call moushley
post #3951350

dripen_arn said:
i'll play devils advocate by pointing out that moushley has a very distinct character design, and though the art i'm about to bring up was probably made in responce to the first moushley image (being posted the same day as each other, there is one piece that renders Ashley Graham as a mouse/rat that i would not call moushley
post #3951350

Seems to be a situation like hybrids, and the same thing could be said about those MLP crossgender depictions. Sure there may be a lot of pictures with the same design, but there are other ways to do the concept that would still be a valid combination. It's not an official character design, so there's no rules as to what may qualify for Moushley beyond it being Ashley as a mouse. Your example adds rabbit features to Ashley, so it wouldn't be Ashley-as-a-mouse, but Ashley-as-a-rabbit (Rabshley?). In any case, there's nothing to stop someone from taking an depiction of a plain old feral mouse, putting miniature clothing on it that resembles Ashley's, and calling it Moushley.

watsit said:
...but there's still more to Bowsette being a meme than Moushley.

Er...

For the record, I'm of the mind that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" but that doesn't seem to be the majority opinion in here...but I will say that Moushley's very clearly become a widespread meme and that, if we must make an alteration, then placing the tag under copyright is a perfectly valid option rather than nuking the whole thing via alias; that just doesn't sit right with me at all. Just alias "ashley_graham_(resident_evil)" to "ashley_graham" then implicate that and "furrification" to "copyright:moushley." The "ashley_graham" tag could have "resident_evil" implicated if it doesn't already.

lafcadio said:
If we were to go the copyright route, I'd rather the tag be something like what_if_you_booted_up_resident_evil_4_remake_and_Ashley_was_just_a_tiny_mouse.

I'd rather have something users can type.

We have examples of memes that received short bursts of activity then fizzled out getting copyright tags.

Looks like someone changed the Moushley tag to include her last name

mcdonaldschicken15 said:
Looks like someone changed the Moushley tag to include her last name

me and siral talked to the tag vandal on topic #37916 and their manually changing back all the changes they made out of courtesy

dripen_arn said:
me and siral talked to the tag vandal on topic #37916 and their manually changing back all the changes they made out of courtesy

I am here to confirm that I mistakenly made the Moushley_Graham tag thinking that the tag was valid, and have reverted the affected character tags to their previous state.

I think I'm team meme tag, like with bowsette. moushley_meme

It does look like it's hit meme status. Perhaps we should alias moushley and moushley_graham to moushely_(meme) instead? Implications to meme to ensue, recategorize tags as necessary, and have moushely_(meme) be the tag that implies ashley_graham.

Opinions?

clawstripe said:
It does look like it's hit meme status. Perhaps we should alias moushley and moushley_graham to moushely_(meme) instead? Implications to meme to ensue, recategorize tags as necessary, and have moushely_(meme) be the tag that implies ashley_graham.

Opinions?

having moushley_(meme) imply ashley_graham sounds like a bad idea, since other characters could be drawn in a way that suggests the meme. we've already gotten furrified Ada and Leon as a result of this meme...

Okay, this ain't a real bulk update request because I don't wanna cause any BTRs/piss anyone off, but how's this?:

alias moushley -> moushley_(meme)
alias moushley_graham -> moushley_(meme)
general moushley_(meme) -> copyright

smbsml said:
Okay, this ain't a real bulk update request because I don't wanna cause any BTRs/piss anyone off, but how's this?:

alias moushley -> moushley_(meme)
alias moushley_graham -> moushley_(meme)
general moushley_(meme) -> copyright

This formatting is incorrect, "general" should be "category", but otherwise this seems like the most reasonable take offered so far.

lafcadio said:
This formatting is incorrect, "general" should be "category", but otherwise this seems like the most reasonable take offered so far.

Yeah I was confused on how to format that, my bad. So it'd be:

alias moushley -> moushley_(meme)
alias moushley_graham -> moushley_(meme)
category moushley_(meme) -> copyright

Should furrification also be implied? Assuming RE4 characters being depicted as animals is crucial to the meme.

i edited the bur to fit smbsml's suggestion, let's see what watsit has to say about it

For the sake of removing the BTRs, This request by Darvincy needs to be rejected.

dripen_arn said:
i edited the bur to fit smbsml's suggestion, let's see what watsit has to say about it

I still don't really like the idea of giving a specific tag to 'this character but different'. How many images of yorha_2b as a snow leopard does there need to be for that to get a meme tag too? Or for the_handler_(monster_hunter) depicted as a pukei-pukei? sakuya_izayoi as a wolf? This seems like it's trying to push for one because it's the new hotness fresh in everyone's mind, but in a few months it'll have fizzled out (probably still get some images, but not the same volume), and it won't be any different than any other character with some alternate_species treatment.

(Also I'm really hoping a future site update will make it so votes are removed when a BUR is edited; how many votes there now are for this meme version instead of the old alias-away version?)

watsit said:
I still don't really like the idea of giving a specific tag to 'this character but different'. How many images of yorha_2b as a snow leopard does there need to be for that to get a meme tag too? Or for the_handler_(monster_hunter) depicted as a pukei-pukei? sakuya_izayoi as a wolf? This seems like it's trying to push for one because it's the new hotness fresh in everyone's mind, but in a few months it'll have fizzled out (probably still get some images, but not the same volume), and it won't be any different than any other character with some alternate_species treatment.

(Also I'm really hoping a future site update will make it so votes are removed when a BUR is edited; how many votes there now are for this meme version instead of the old alias-away version?)

I think in this case it's different because it's a meme. Like if someone drew I dunno, Samus Aran as a fox or whatever, for fun? There wouldn't be a need for a specific tag for that obviously. But if for whatever reason it became a trend and spouted hundreds and hundreds of fanarts (like Bowsette and Moushley), I figured it'd be enough to earn itself a tag. Moushley's tag is close to hitting 200 pics and that's just on this site, there's hundreds more still not posted I'm sure and with no sign of stopping soon.

watsit said:
I still don't really like the idea of giving a specific tag to 'this character but different'. How many images of yorha_2b as a snow leopard does there need to be for that to get a meme tag too? Or for the_handler_(monster_hunter) depicted as a pukei-pukei? sakuya_izayoi as a wolf? This seems like it's trying to push for one because it's the new hotness fresh in everyone's mind, but in a few months it'll have fizzled out (probably still get some images, but not the same volume), and it won't be any different than any other character with some alternate_species treatment.

Why not? If snow leopard Yorha 2B or wolf Sakuya blow up in popularity and get hundreds of pictures drawn of them in less than two weeks' time, they'd certainly have crossed over into meme territory and can get their own meme tags.

It's not the number of pictures that makes something a meme. That's just one marker that indicates that something might be one. Another marker is how rapidly people take an interest in it. Something imitative (ie. mimetic) that gains a lot of interest in a short amount of time is more likely to be a meme. Even if it tanks and is forgotten in a few months' time doesn't mean it can't be a meme. It just wasn't one with lasting power.

Of course, that still won't make something a meme, else the explosion of Zootopia fanart upon announcement and release of the movie would count as a meme. A third criterion would probably be how specific something is. Zootopia fanart isn't terribly specific, no matter how fast it's churned out, but a wide range of parodies and redraws of one single scene from it might count, especially if not initiated by any official source. (Official sources pushing the scene would make it just publicity. Fans creating it and it taking off because people are fans of it regardless of their fannishness of the official stuff seems more meme-ish to me.)

I'm sure you and other people can come up with other mimetic criteria that would separate Bowsette and Moushley from regular run-of-the-mill alternate species takes on the Handler.

Moushley has received a huge number of pictures (200+) in a short amount of time (10 days as of this writing) by a diverse array of artists who like the concept regardless of whether they have any feelings for Resident Evil. That shows a strong interest in the concept itself which has allowed it to reach memetic levels (ie. people imitating it and passing it along). Sure, in six months, we'll probably be "Moushley who?", but she doesn't have to gain the lasting power of Santa Claus in order to become a meme.

should i make another bur for the alias crowd instead of continuously editing this one based on what i think is the largest concensus?

2 burs enter, 1 bur leaves?

A detour: Dear god someone's modded her into the game

dripen_arn said:
should i make another bur for the alias crowd instead of continuously editing this one based on what i think is the largest concensus?

I see no issue with that.

bump to let everyone know about the new alias for homies who wanna see the moushley tag gone

topic #37975
topic #37975
topic #37975
topic #37975
topic #37975

Another pic that would get tagged with "moushley_(meme)" where "ashley_graham" wouldn't fit:

post #3974684

Also. I don't know how much I agree with this myself, but it should probably be pointed out that the few pics we have of Ada Wong as a bat are arguably representative of the meme.

post #3962372

The above image was made in direct response to Moushley, based on the way the Tweet is worded and the fact that it was made for a /v/ thread centered on the meme.

post #3962379 post #3966446

Of course, her original name was...Batada? Before the artist of the below pic came up with the less terrible/obvious name Ada Wing.

post #3966688

So, possibly, pictures of Ada Wong as a bat, in this particular design, should be considered derivative of the meme and thus, in solo appearance, wouldn't work with the "ashley_graham" tag either.

smbsml said:
Also. I don't know how much I agree with this myself, but it should probably be pointed out that the few pics we have of Ada Wong as a bat are arguably representative of the meme.

That seems so wrong to me. As people have said before, Moushley is special because she has lots of posts, otherwise it's just a furrified character. Ada as a bat isn't Ashley as a mouse, and has far fewer posts. Does any furrified RE character get tagged with the moushley meme then? Should it be renamed to resident_evil_character_as_an_animal_(meme)?

watsit said:
That seems so wrong to me. As people have said before, Moushley is special because she has lots of posts, otherwise it's just a furrified character. Ada as a bat isn't Ashley as a mouse, and has far fewer posts. Does any furrified RE character get tagged with the moushley meme then? Should it be renamed to resident_evil_character_as_an_animal_(meme)?

I brought it up because this particular instance/design seems contextually tied to the meme beyond the character being drawn as a bat. But yeah, I don't think just any furrified RE4 character fits and if Ada Wing posts don't get tagged I won't lose sleep over it. That doesn't mean the meme isn't worth cataloguing.

smbsml said:
I brought it up because this particular instance/design seems contextually tied to the meme beyond the character being drawn as a bat. But yeah, I don't think just any furrified RE4 character fits and if Ada Wing posts don't get tagged I won't lose sleep over it. That doesn't mean the meme isn't worth cataloguing.

I was the one that initially added the "Batada" tag and later changed to "Ada Wing", this however was before I found this Thread suggesting Moushley to become a Copyright tag. I agree with the fact that we should make pictures regarding "Resident Evil characters turned into Animals" just have the Moushley Tag and just use their actual names along with it.

If for whatever reason someone draws someone from a franchise that isn't Resident Evil as a mouse or another animal that should most likely not be tagged as such. The (Warioware) Ashley Mouse image is clearly a funny joke drawing and even then, Leon is in it too so that's okay.

Bolstering support for Moushley as a meme, the website Know Your Meme now has an entry for her.

However, I'm finding I'm with Watsit in that we should limit the Moushley_(meme) tag to just the one character. Batada and any other Resident Evil 4 character turned furry is just that: a furrified character. They're spin-offs that haven't achieved anywhere near Moushley's status, and require the presence of Moushley herself for proper context. If one of them catches on and receives a meteoric rise in popularity, then, yes, we can revisit expanding the meme in some way.

clawstripe said:
Bolstering support for Moushley as a meme, the website Know Your Meme now has an entry for her.

However, I'm finding I'm with Watsit in that we should limit the Moushley_(meme) tag to just the one character. Batada and any other Resident Evil 4 character turned furry is just that: a furrified character. They're spin-offs that haven't achieved anywhere near Moushley's status, and require the presence of Moushley herself for proper context. If one of them catches on and receives a meteoric rise in popularity, then, yes, we can revisit expanding the meme in some way.

i 100% agree with you on this

if this is the bur that gets approved, i'll make a followup implication request for moushley -> ashley_graham

dripen_arn said:
if this is the bur that gets approved, i'll make a followup implication request for moushley -> ashley_graham

Someone beat you to it

strikerman said:
Someone beat you to it

that's it! i'm sending this damn implication request to the alias and implication voting forum for rejection so that mine can actually go through!

dripen_arn said:
if this is the bur that gets approved, i'll make a followup implication request for moushley -> ashley_graham

This BUR is aliasing moushley to moushley_(meme) though? It can't then also implicate ashley graham.

watsit said:
This BUR is aliasing moushley to moushley_(meme) though? It can't then also implicate ashley graham.

sorry, implicate moushley_(meme) -> ashley_graham, i meant implicate moushley_(meme) -> ashley_graham. i'm gonna give myself a break off of these forums after this one

actually; fuck it! why the parentheses? why not just take the moushley tag and change category that into a copyright? your OC just so happen to be named moushley? too bad! use a parethesis!

addendum: naw i can't edit the bur on a whim like that, that's not what people voted for days ago, keeping the votes representative of what the users actually voted for is the reason why i even made a second competing bur in the first place

dripen_arn said:
addendum: naw i can't edit the bur on a whim like that, that's not what people voted for days ago, keeping the votes representative of what the users actually voted for is the reason why i even made a second competing bur in the first place

Good call. Personally, I think the _(meme) is a good idea to include this time, not because there could be some future character named Moushley, but because it makes it clearer just what the tag is referring to.

I admit to being confused; what's causing the BURs on each one?

smbsml said:
I admit to being confused; what's causing the BURs on each one?

if you mean why the transitive relationships were still blocked: i just edited them out since because i just relized that those notices don't go away even after the tag request that caused them got rejected (and somehow the 2 burs don't conflict eachother even though they totally do?)

if that's not what you meant: please elaborate

dripen_arn said:
if you mean why the transitive relationships were still blocked: i just edited them out since because i just relized that those notices don't go away even after the tag request that caused them got rejected (and somehow the 2 burs don't conflict eachother even though they totally do?)

if that's not what you meant: please elaborate

Oh no, yeah that was it. No probs

We have now moved onto the stage where people make multiple superfluous tags for tangentially-related characters.
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=leon_kattedy
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=lion_kennedy
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=ada_wing
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=batada

lafcadio said:
We have now moved onto the stage where people make multiple superfluous tags for tangentially-related characters.
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=leon_kattedy
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=lion_kennedy
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=ada_wing
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=batada

honesly ada wing seems established enough that could justify having it's own tag, but leon keeps getting furrified into so many different species (in cases where he gets furrified at all) that it definitely seems ridiculous to give his fursonas any distinct tags

dripen_arn said:
honesly ada wing seems established enough that could justify having it's own tag

There's only six posts under ada_wing. There's been far more "established" crossgender ponies that have had their fan names removed than alternate_species RE characters having cutesy name puns.

dripen_arn said:
honesly ada wing seems established enough that could justify having it's own tag, but leon keeps getting furrified into so many different species (in cases where he gets furrified at all) that it definitely seems ridiculous to give his fursonas any distinct tags

Any character that follows the format of the meme should use their respective (canon) character tag, the species they were assigned to, the furrification tag and, finally, moushley_(meme). Established or not, we don't need ten thousand tags for each of the characters.

wolfmanfur said:
Any character that follows the format of the meme should use their respective (canon) character tag, the species they were assigned to, the furrification tag and, finally, moushley_(meme). Established or not, we don't need ten thousand tags for each of the characters.

Exactly, the exact same thing happened with Bowsette. The advantage of a copyright tag over a character tag is that the mouse form itself need not appear, as long as the image is a reference of some kind to it.

clawstripe said:
Good call. Personally, I think the _(meme) is a good idea to include this time, not because there could be some future character named Moushley, but because it makes it clearer just what the tag is referring to.

I feel like leaving out the suffix would be preferable as “moushley” by itself is still a highly specific name and unlikely to be accidentally used by anyone else, especially after acquiring meme status. Meme tags in general don’t get any such suffix unless they’re actually ambiguous terms, like tight_pants_(meme), which could otherwise be confused with the actual tight_pants tag.

scaliespe said:
I feel like leaving out the suffix would be preferable as “moushley” by itself is still a highly specific name and unlikely to be accidentally used by anyone else, especially after acquiring meme status. Meme tags in general don’t get any such suffix unless they’re actually ambiguous terms, like tight_pants_(meme), which could otherwise be confused with the actual tight_pants tag.

Again, the exact same could be said about Bowsette - which eventually ended up with the tag bowsette_meme. If we want to discourage any future attempts at creating superfluous character tags, it needs to be explicitly clear that the tag named "Moushley" does not exclusively refer to Moushley.

lafcadio said:
We have now moved onto the stage where people make multiple superfluous tags for tangentially-related characters.
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=leon_kattedy
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=lion_kennedy
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=ada_wing
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=batada

Wow I do not remember tagging that one pic with "lion_kennedy." Must've been a mistake I made purging the "leon_kattedy" tag some user tried to add. My bad.

wat8548 said:
Again, the exact same could be said about Bowsette - which eventually ended up with the tag bowsette_meme. If we want to discourage any future attempts at creating superfluous character tags, it needs to be explicitly clear that the tag named "Moushley" does not exclusively refer to Moushley.

The fact that it's in the copyright category rather than the character category would already make that point abundantly clear. Further clarifications can be included in the wiki.
I also think the "meme" after "bowsette" is superfluous. That's also an outlier among meme tags in general, almost all of which lack any suffix except some that could genuinely be considered ambiguous terms otherwise.
Some other "character"-style meme tags that also have no such suffix: sanic, pickle rick, and dat boi. Probably others as well, but I don't want to go hunting through every one of those hundreds of meme tags to find more.

wolfmanfur said:
Any character that follows the format of the meme should use their respective (canon) character tag, the species they were assigned to, the furrification tag and, finally, moushley_(meme). Established or not, we don't need ten thousand tags for each of the characters.

This is exactly my point I keep bringing up. What is "the format of the meme"? It's not a specific joke scenario based on a specific new powerup prominently featured in a game update being applied to a very unlikely character from that game to turn them specifically into a mtf_crossgender toadette hybrid humanoid (as in Bowsette). This meme is literally just ashley as a mouse, there's no scenario for other characters to fit in, so no other character or species should be put under it. Otherwise, it may as well be named resident_evil_character_as_an_animal_(meme), which is just "resident_evil furrification". Which I again question why this should get special treatment in either case when it's just a particular instance of the furrification tag; I don't buy the "it has a lot of posts" reason when ashley_graham + mouse( + furrification) is suitable to find them regardless, and we don't have a habit of giving unique tags to a general tag applied to a specific character even when it's popular (see all the crossgender or alternate_species character depictions having their alt names aliased away, regardless of how many depictions there are, and not getting a meme tag either).

scaliespe said:
The fact that it's in the copyright category rather than the character category would already make that point abundantly clear.

You have too much faith in e6 taggers. There are plenty of people that will use a tag regardless of what category its in, continuing to tag the same thing on multiple posts despite the category being obviously incorrect for what they're meaning, and will even ignore popup warnings saying something is in the Invalid category and obviously wrong. Putting a tag in a different category and writing the best wiki entry ever won't stop people from using a tag how they think it should be used without looking at it.

scaliespe said:
Some other "character"-style meme tags that also have no such suffix: sanic, pickle rick, and dat boi. Probably others as well, but I don't want to go hunting through every one of those hundreds of meme tags to find more.

I would support adding a _(meme) suffix to them, if for no other reason than to set a standard for how meme tags should be named to avoid tags becoming ambiguous.

So, where're we at with this?

smbsml said:
So, where're we at with this?

well i just posted these burs on the alias and implication voting forum, so now we're just waiting for admins to acknowledge this

Another instance of the moushley meme that doesn't involve mouse-ashley herself:
post #4028595