Topic: [FAILED] Diaper related BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #2326 is active.

remove implication wet_diaper (6197) -> wetting (8496)
create implication cum_on_diaper (70) -> cum (689356)
create implication licking_diaper (26) -> licking (144505)
remove implication reverse_diaper_change (16) -> diaper (25495)

Reason: Per the soiling diaper wiki, For already soiled diapers, use messy_diaper.and its already aliased to soiling. This wiki also means that soiling diaper and messy diaper/soiled diaper (which may be aliased, see topic #33263) are 2 different things, so a post can have the tag messy diaper if its already soiled, thus should not have the soiling tag.

The alias is that messing and soiling are the same thing (in this context).
wet diaper should not imply wetting, rather wetting_diaper should imply wetting.
Im not sure when you can be wetting, but not also be peeing.

I hope I didn't miss anything.

(also part 1/2)

Edit:
Removed imply wetting -> peeing
Added unimply wet_diaper -> urine
Removed implicate diaper_bulge -> bulge

EDIT: The bulk update request #2326 (forum #332615) has failed: Implication for messy_diaper not found

EDIT: The bulk update request #2326 (forum #332615) has been approved by @spe.

Updated by auto moderator

this should be part 2, but im not sure whats causing the issue

BUR part 2

implicate hyper_diaper -> huge_diaper
implicate hyper_diaper -> hyper
implicate huge_diaper -> big_diaper
implicate wetting_diaper -> wetting
implicate reverse_diaper_change -> diaper_change

per topic #33381, moved around the implications.
Made reverse_diaper_change imply instead of alias.

Updated

The bulk update request #2349 is pending approval.

create implication leaking_diaper (554) -> diaper (25495)
create implication clean_diaper (9704) -> diaper (25495)
create implication full_diaper (750) -> diaper (25495)
create implication sagging_diaper (349) -> diaper (25495)
create alias soggy_diaper (0) -> wet_diaper (6197)
create implication exposed_diaper (930) -> diaper (25495)
create implication used_diaper (10069) -> diaper (25495)
create implication stained_diaper (92) -> diaper (25495)
create implication inside_diaper (59) -> diaper (25495)
create implication sharing_diaper (82) -> diaper (25495)
create implication diaper_down (112) -> diaper (25495)
create implication humping_diaper (69) -> diaper (25495)
create implication humping_diaper (69) -> humping (2064)
create implication waterlogged_diaper (73) -> diaper (25495)

Reason: While making another BUR relating to infantilism, found MANY more tags that should imply diaper, but isnt currently, aliasing some away, etc. There were a few more, but their use were in the single digits, and it seems rare enough to work on it manually. Sorry if this is a duplicate of an existing BUR.
apparently implication wearing_diaper -> diaper already exists
a quasi part 3 of a 2 part BUR

I hope this is good.

The bulk update request #2350 is pending approval.

create implication discarded_diaper (47) -> diaper (25495)
create implication multicolored_diaper (57) -> diaper (25495)
create implication folded_diaper (517) -> diaper (25495)
create implication dropped_diaper (17) -> diaper (25495)
create implication vibrator_on_diaper (38) -> diaper (25495)
create implication vibrator_on_diaper (38) -> vibrator (22314)
create alias diaper_check (73) -> checking_diaper (17)
create alias peeing_in_diaper (0) -> wetting_diaper (1327)
create alias diaper_mess (14) -> messy_diaper (0)
create implication transparent_diaper (6) -> diaper (25495)
create alias puffy_diaper (0) -> diaper (25495)
create implication diaper_masturbation (57) -> diaper (25495)
create alias feces_in_diaper (10) -> messy_diaper (0)

Reason: Part 4 of a 2 part BUR... I really should plan ahead and do it at once instead of staggering it like this

Edit: changed a few things due to topic #34938

Removed alias used_diaper -> messy_diaper due to conflict with imply used_diaper -> diaper
Removed implicate diaper_masturbation -> masturbation

Updated

I’ve thought it would be useful to give these tags the same treatment as things like food play/food fetish and foot play/foot fetish - that is, the implication chain would go something like this:

I thought about making a BUR for it, but… didn’t really want to dig into it at the time. May be worth considering though, for the sake of standardization.

Also, why remove implication reverse_diaper_change -> diaper? That sounds like a valid implication.

scaliespe said:

Also, why remove implication reverse_diaper_change -> diaper? That sounds like a valid implication.

This is so that in part 2, it can be aliased to diaper_change

cutefox123 said:
This is so that in part 2, it can be aliased to diaper_change

Maybe I am missing something, but... reverse_diaper_change seems like a uniquely different type of diaper change. So having it as an implication to -> diaper_change would make sense, but aliasing it away -> into diaper_change seems to reduce functionality instead. So should it really be aliased away, or would changing that one to an implication work better?

cutefox123 said:
remove implication wet_diaper (4175) -> wetting (5857) create implication wetting (5857) -> peeing (12876)
...
wet diaper should not imply wetting, rather wetting_diaper should imply wetting.

Im not sure when you can be wetting, but not also be peeing.
...
(also part 1/2)

1-
I agree with disimplying wet_diaper -> wetting. Currently, when tagging a character cumming in a diaper, or a character dripping pussy_juice on a open_diaper for example, I can not tag wet_diaper, because it would imply wetting -> urine and urine by itself
And how would I go about tagging a diaper that is wet with pure water or slime?

2-
I suppose implicating wetting->peeing is wrong, because the wiki says peeing iswhen character is ACTIVELY urinating, while wetting says character urinating into clothing DELIBERATELY or NOT
(In this context, I interpret deliberately and actively as the same meaning)

3-
Additionally, as far as I am aware, diapers are considered clothing in this site(wearing_diaper currently implies clothed), therefore Wetting still applies, while wetting_diaper is redundant and should probably be aliased. Unless there should be a distinction between "is pissing" and "finished pissing" like soiled_diaper and soiling_diaper.

4-
Additionally², wet_diaper should not imply urine, given it can be wet with other liquids

I disagree with the general definition of wetting actually. One may wet their own clothes or themselves by pissing, getting splashed with water, huggin a goo-creature, cumming... and maybe more.
Maybe we could unimply Urinating from Peeing, and use both for specific reasons? Like this:
> Urinating: Urinating non deliberately, by accident, by lack of control > Peeing: Urinating deliberately, actively.

Tl;dr of my opinion:
>remove implication wet_diaper -> wetting
>DONT create implication wetting -> peeing
--
>remove implication wet_diaper -> urine
>MAYBE remove alias urinating -> peeing
>MAYBE create alias wetting_diaper -> wet_diaper
---
>Change wetting = piss -> wetting = any liquid

(I hope I didn't sound creppy or dumb, I'm new here ;w;)

m3g4p0n1 said:
Tl;dr of my opinion:
>remove implication wet_diaper -> wetting Done
>DONT create implication wetting -> peeing Done
--
>remove implication wet_diaper -> urine Done
>MAYBE remove alias urinating -> peeing
>MAYBE create alias wetting_diaper -> wet_diaper
---
>Change wetting = piss -> wetting = any liquid

Mainly a self note but, I agree with this, changing fucking puns the BUR...
>MAYBE remove alias urinating -> peeing
I disagree, urinating and peeing are the same thing, one is just a bit more formal(?).
>MAYBE create alias wetting_diaper -> wet_diaper
Also disagree, the act of wetting and the state of being wet are not the same, though they are related.

cutefox123 said:
Mainly a self note but, I agree with this, changing fucking puns the BUR...
>MAYBE remove alias urinating -> peeing
I disagree, urinating and peeing are the same thing, one is just a bit more formal(?).
>MAYBE create alias wetting_diaper -> wet_diaper
Also disagree, the act of wetting and the state of being wet are not the same, though they are related.

Fair enough, I also agre with the distinction of wetting/wet, I was just unsure if the practical application of these tags was necessary.
By the way:

1) there already is an implication for cum_in_diaper -> cum
^You might want to make it clear under the first BUR that you're creating an implication for cum_on_diaper instead of dupping cum_in_diaper, took me a while to notice that.

Done2) create implication diaper_bulge -> bulge might be improper, because according to the wiki, bulge only applies to genitalia bulge. (I think it's same reason why abdominal_bulge ; neck_bulge and cheek_bulge don't imply bulge).

Done3) create alias used_diaper -> messy_diaper might be improper, wouldn't wet diapers also count as used ones? We already have wet and messy tags to cover diaper state.
-3.1) I think this should be aliased to used_diaper -> discarded_diaper.

4) create alias puffy_diaper (21) -> diaper (15730) - I'm not sure about this one, it has quite a low tag use, but ideally could be nice to differentiate bettwen flat, generic cartoon characters and the interesting ones. Maybe it should be aliased to puffy_diaper -> diaper_fetish

5) create implication diaper_masturbation (17) -> masturbation (117830) is good, but I wonder if it shouldn't imply masturbation_through_clothing instead. Oddly, that one does not imply masturbation.

And on the topic of a diaper related BUR, I was wondering.. if I had a diaper BUR of my own, would it be appropriate to attatch it to this forum topic?
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TL;DR

DUPLICATED create implication cum_in_diaper -> cum
^Make it clear you're creating an implication for cum_on_diaper instead of cum_in_diaper
DoneDONT create implication diaper_bulge -> bulge

DoneMAYBE DONT create alias used_diaper -> messy_diaper

MAYBE create alias used_diaper -> discarded_diaper

MAYBE DONT create alias puffy_diaper -> diaper
MAYBE create alias puffy_diaper -> diaper_fetish

DoneMAYBE DONT create implication diaper_masturbation -> masturbation
MAYBE create implication diaper_masturbation -> masturbation_through_clothing
MAYBE create implication masturbation_through_clothing -> masturbation

Edit: Clarified what I refeered to on the first line.
Edit2: Spoilered the ones that were done.

Updated

Sorry for the bump spam
Bumping because I think this topic really needs a fresh look, since as it currently is, the messy diaper implication tree is an absolute nightmare, and really needs to be fixed and consolidated, if anything, at least part 1 and 2 need to get looked at, the rest can be done later, suggestions are welcome.

cutefox123 said:
BUR #2349

Reason: While making another BUR relating to infantilism, found MANY more tags that should imply diaper, but isnt currently, aliasing some away, etc. There were a few more, but their use were in the single digits, and it seems rare enough to work on it manually. Sorry if this is a duplicate of an existing BUR.
apparently implication wearing_diaper -> diaper already exists
a quasi part 3 of a 2 part BUR

I hope this is good.

I just noticed, but diaper_only already implies diaper, so you can remove that line.

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