Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions
The bulk update request #1247 is pending approval.
create alias cyan_eyeshadow (0) -> blue_eyeshadow (11210)
create implication gold_eyeshadow (226) -> eyeshadow (80624)
create implication orange_eyeshadow (401) -> eyeshadow (80624)
Reason: The eyeshadow wiki page lists a number of eyeshadow colour tags under "Related", but currently, only some of those colours imply the eyeshadow tag. This change will ensure that they all do, for consistency.
It seems cyan_eyeshadow isn't being used as there's currently no posts with such tag and even by checking the history of people adding this tag, it still seems severely underused, so it seems a bit useless. Also why we call it gold_eyeshadow instead of yellow_eyeshadow? Could someone explain?
sieghelm_lockayer said:
It seems cyan_eyeshadow isn't being used as there's currently no posts with such tag and even by checking the history of people adding this tag, it still seems severely underused, so it seems a bit useless.
Cyan also seems to be aliased to blue (cyan_fur, cyan_eyes, cyan_feathers, etc, are aliased to the blue_ counterparts), so cyan_eyeshadow should probably be aliased to blue_eyeshadow, which already implicates eyeshadow.
sieghelm_lockayer said:
Also why we call it gold_eyeshadow instead of yellow_eyeshadow? Could someone explain?
Some things use yellow (yellow_fur, yellow_eyes), some use gold (gold_scales), and there's blonde_hair too. So who knows.
sieghelm_lockayer said:
Also why we call it gold_eyeshadow instead of yellow_eyeshadow? Could someone explain?
The color gold implies a metallic or sparkly quality. Also, gold is not always yellow. The flat color itself (ignoring the actual metal and the metallic connotations it usually has in art) covers a variety of shades ranging from brown to yellow. The American Heritage Dictionary defines the color metallic gold as "A light olive-brown to dark yellow, or a moderate, strong to vivid yellow." See the Wikipedia article for gold (color) under the “Shades” header.
Edit: sorry, E621 hates links that end with a parenthesis.
Edit 2: Fixed: thanks Furrin!
Updated
watsit said:
Some things use yellow (yellow_fur, yellow_eyes), some use gold (gold_scales), and there's blonde_hair too. So who knows.
The thing that prompted this BUR was actually an example involving gold. I was tagging lots of Minerva Mink images, and for most of them I was adding the blue_eyeshadow tag and letting it add eyeshadow automatically. But then I tagged the image below with gold_eyeshadow, and I noticed afterwards that eyeshadow had not been automatically tagged:
Then I checked the wiki page and noticed that the existing implications don't cover all the related tags on that page.
Also, Minerva has that blonde/yellow tagging issue too! She has blonde_hair but her tail is exactly the same colour, so I'm not sure if she should be tagged with blonde_tail, yellow_tail, or both. (Mostly I've been adding both.)
scaliespe said:
See the Wikipedia article for gold (color) under the “Shades” header.Edit: sorry, E621 hates links that end with a parenthesis.
Changing it out for URL Percent Codes should help. Parenthesis use %28 for the start and %29 for the end, so %28color%29 for (color). Go ahead, click the link in my quote, I've performed that swap to show how that works.
furrin_gok said:
Changing it out for URL Percent Codes should help. Parenthesis use %28 for the start and %29 for the end, so %28color%29 for (color). Go ahead, click the link in my quote, I've performed that swap to show how that works.
You are brilliant, thank you
chemistrynoisy said:
The thing that prompted this BUR was actually an example involving gold. I was tagging lots of Minerva Mink images, and for most of them I was adding the blue_eyeshadow tag and letting it add eyeshadow automatically. But then I tagged the image below with gold_eyeshadow, and I noticed afterwards that eyeshadow had not been automatically tagged:Then I checked the wiki page and noticed that the existing implications don't cover all the related tags on that page.
Well, I think this BUR is fine, but the main reason you’re probably getting downvotes is because we universally alias cyan_* tags to blue_*. So if you want this one to go through, I’d suggest changing that cyan_eyeshadow implication to an alias instead, aliasing it to blue_eyeshadow. Either that, or remove it altogether. The other two should be fine.
Also, Minerva has that blonde/yellow tagging issue too! She has blonde_hair but her tail is exactly the same colour, so I'm not sure if she should be tagged with blonde_tail, yellow_tail, or both. (Mostly I've been adding both.)
Blonde is only used for hair, as yellow_hair is aliased to blonde. blonde_fur, on the other hand, is aliased to yellow. Since the hair on a tail is considered fur and not hair, you should be just using the yellow_tail tag instead. Also, blonde_tail is hardly used as is, whereas yellow_tail has over 5k uses. Blonde probably should be aliased to yellow in this case, but that may be an issue for another BUR.
scaliespe said:
Well, I think this BUR is fine, but the main reason you’re probably getting downvotes is because we universally alias cyan_* tags to blue_*. So if you want this one to go through, I’d suggest changing that cyan_eyeshadow implication to an alias instead, aliasing it to blue_eyeshadow. Either that, or remove it altogether. The other two should be fine.
I've updated that line in the BUR above to "alias cyan_eyeshadow -> blue_eyeshadow"
Blonde is only used for hair, as yellow_hair is aliased to blonde. blonde_fur, on the other hand, is aliased to yellow. Since the hair on a tail is considered fur and not hair, you should be just using the yellow_tail tag instead. Also, blonde_tail is hardly used as is, whereas yellow_tail has over 5k uses. Blonde probably should be aliased to yellow in this case, but that may be an issue for another BUR.
I've submitted a new alias request for blonde_tail -> yellow_tail:
