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nin10dope said:
I'll likely write a general guideline of the tag's usage and then make a TagMe.dev project
The main issue is where exactly one defines the cutoff, since can be a bit subjective what looks "statuesque" vs. what looks "natural", especially when the muscles are being flexed (which inherently increases definition).
beholding said:
The main issue is where exactly one defines the cutoff, since can be a bit subjective what looks "statuesque" vs. what looks "natural", especially when the muscles are being flexed (which inherently increases definition).
I've already taken that into account
beholding said:
The main issue is where exactly one defines the cutoff, since can be a bit subjective what looks "statuesque" vs. what looks "natural", especially when the muscles are being flexed (which inherently increases definition).
I really feel like we should have a stickied thread 'Tag Discussion' for 'hey, not quite sure which tag to use here/borderline for a tag, what does everyone else think?' instead of making a new thread every time. Neither this one nor 'Is there a tag?' thread really work for that.
kevsnowcat said:
I really feel like we should have a stickied thread 'Tag Discussion' for 'hey, not quite sure which tag to use here/borderline for a tag, what does everyone else think?' instead of making a new thread every time. Neither this one nor 'Is there a tag?' thread really work for that.
No, the Is there a tag Sticky is for that purpose as well because that ultimately is the question that defining and brainstorming tags answers.
nin10dope said:
No, the Is there a tag Sticky is for that purpose as well because that ultimately is the question that defining and brainstorming tags answers.
It's only for people who want to find a tag they don't know the name of. If the debate is, say, 'is this a leopard or jaguar?', 'is this regular rimming or deep rimming?', etc, I've been told multiple times it is not the appropriate thread and to 'create your own if you want to discuss off-topic subjects'. I would be creating 100 threads a day for all the posts I'm unsure what to tag as, so I either guess and get it wrong or I don't tag at all. I often wonder how often my edits get reverted by the artist/commissioner who insist that the tag is wrong and it's too borderline to argue TWYS.
kevsnowcat said:
It's only for people who want to find a tag they don't know the name of. If the debate is, say, 'is this a leopard or jaguar?', 'is this regular rimming or deep rimming?', etc, I've been told multiple times it is not the appropriate thread and to 'create your own if you want to discuss off-topic subjects'. I would be creating 100 threads a day for all the posts I'm unsure what to tag as, so I either guess and get it wrong or I don't tag at all. I often wonder how often my edits get reverted by the artist/commissioner who insist that the tag is wrong and it's too borderline to argue TWYS.
Ah, my bad, the Discord channel Tag Discussions is the right place for that
Although if you're that regularly unsure on how to tag things, you should probably spend time reading the tag wikis
The wiki description of crucifix states it is meant to depict a cross that includes the body of Jesus, but most tagged posts just depict the cross.
I’m unsure where to ask this. Would it be possible to get some additional differentiation around tags that are often blacklisted? For instance, I have “young” blacklisted because I don’t want to see child characters in explicit situations, however there are many posts (for example some rukifox art, etc) that include children who are not engaged in sexual activity. I want to see those posts by artists I enjoy, but if I forget to re-enable my blacklist then I often find out by discovering something that makes me uncomfortable before realizing my blacklist isn’t enabled. I suppose another option could be a way for disabling blacklist to only be a one time thing? Like how images are spoilered on discord and other sites. Unspoilering one image doesn’t reveal every spoilered image, could that methodology possibly be applied to the blacklist system?
tintaglia said:
I’m unsure where to ask this. Would it be possible to get some additional differentiation around tags that are often blacklisted? For instance, I have “young” blacklisted because I don’t want to see child characters in explicit situations, however there are many posts (for example some rukifox art, etc) that include children who are not engaged in sexual activity. I want to see those posts by artists I enjoy, but if I forget to re-enable my blacklist then I often find out by discovering something that makes me uncomfortable before realizing my blacklist isn’t enabled. I suppose another option could be a way for disabling blacklist to only be a one time thing? Like how images are spoilered on discord and other sites. Unspoilering one image doesn’t reveal every spoilered image, could that methodology possibly be applied to the blacklist system?
There's a tag that's being developed called nonsexualized_young, which covers young characters being present in explicit images while not engaging with the explicit activity. Adding "young -nonsexualized_young" to your blacklist might be an okay fix in the meantime.
Edit: formatting
suggestive_clothing badly needs cleanup. Most examples are just skimpy clothing.
I want more representation for the muscular_on_muscular tag (you'll have me to thank for all the gay posts there), so I foolishly decided to undertake it myself. Big mistake (forgive the upcoming tirade). I started off small with the safe rating tag and sorted by tags (muscular_female and/or muscular_male, straight/lesbian, etc.) and excluded muscular_on_muscular. Lesbian and straight posts were easy enough, if a bit time consuming, but gay posts were a whole different beast. even when filtered by the safe rating. I was looking and tagging for hours, wondering how I had not reached the hourly limit. I was after I accidently deleted the tab out of my tab group a second or third time that I finally gave up.
A generally good rule of thumb for doing your part (as I should have done) is to sort by your upvoted posts and tag those. If everyone did that, I think this tag would get somewhere.
Edit: How do I link tags in forum comments?
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blackkkcat said:
How do I link tags in forum comments?
When you're typing in the forums/comments/profile/etc., there's a little blurb on the bottom of the textbox that says:
All text is formatted using DText
That links to the help page for our markup language; I'd recommend going there, but I'll answer your question directly.
If you wanna link the wiki page, surround w/ double square brackets: [[muscular_on_muscular]] -> muscular_on_muscular
This also works if you don't change spaces to underscores: [[muscular on muscular]] -> muscular_on_muscular
If you wanna link to a post search, surround w/ double curly braces: {{muscular_on_muscular}} -> muscular_on_muscular
You do need to keep the underscores for that.
There's also other ways to format links however you want, but you're gonna have to go to the DText help page for that (<- there's an example).
aacafah said:
When you're typing in the forums/comments/profile/etc., there's a little blurb on the bottom of the textbox that says: That links to the help page for our markup language; I'd recommend going there, but I'll answer your question directly.If you wanna link the wiki page, surround w/ double square brackets: [[muscular_on_muscular]] -> muscular_on_muscular
This also works if you don't change spaces to underscores: [[muscular on muscular]] -> muscular_on_muscular
If you wanna link to a post search, surround w/ double curly braces: {{muscular_on_muscular}} -> muscular_on_muscular
You do need to keep the underscores for that.
There's also other ways to format links however you want, but you're gonna have to go to the DText help page for that (<- there's an example).
Thanks
vehicle_for_hire is kind of a mess right now. It's frequently tagged on images of public_transportation, which is not the same thing.
Working on jaguar right now, but I'm amazed at how many posts for Panthera cats have felis and/or feline (big cats are only felid, not the other two). While I can sort of understand it when someone mistags leopard in addition to the snow_leopard tag, (though people should really know better by now), you have to go out of your way and manually add two wrong tags to mistag jaguar, etc. Best posting practice should really be to only enter the precise species and let the implications fill in the rest.
There aren't that many jaguar posts overall, so I only have about 20 pages to fix most of them, but it's gonna be a nightmare to find all the tiger/lion/leopard/snow_leopard posts that have felis and feline but do not have domestic or other small cats in the pic.
kevsnowcat said:
...it's gonna be a nightmare to find all the tiger/lion/leopard/snow_leopard posts that have felis and feline but do not have domestic or other small cats in the pic.
You can search felis & feline implications & subtract all of the tags that imply felis/feline, if that helps.
aacafah said:
You can search felis & feline implications & subtract all of the tags that imply felis/feline, if that helps.
Fixing jaguar I came across some where there were very obviously only two jaguars, or a jaguar and a non-feline species... that had the tag domestic_cat. And the source didn't say hybrid (though there's several in the past I left alone to avoid a tag war with the artist/commissioner where the OP did say hybrid but the art definitely did not make it obvious). I'll probably hack at it now and then but the only real way to fix all of them is to do it without any subtractions.
The main reason I even notice is I often use spectags to try to find images with only one species but any amount of characters. I thought jaguar was unusually low, so I did 'jaguar solo -spectags:4' to find out what kind of mistagging was going on and found a lot of felis and feline tags. And leopard and jaguar tags where apparently the uploader didn't know so they added both instead of none (this also happens a lot with black panthers, where if there is no visible spot pattern or info at the source you can't definitively say if it's a jaguar, leopard, or even a melanistic cougar). The rest were appropriate variations, like animal_head/humanoid.
kevsnowcat said:
Fixing jaguar I came across some where there were very obviously only two jaguars, or a jaguar and a non-feline species... that had the tag domestic_cat.
Likely a result of people tagging cat for any general "cat" species, which is aliased to domestic_cat that implies feline. See topic #38387 where I want to fix that and other common "cat" and "dog" terms.
watsit said:
Likely a result of people tagging cat for any general "cat" species, which is aliased to domestic_cat that implies feline. See topic #38387 where I want to fix that and other common "cat" and "dog" terms.
I definitely agree that undertagging is better than wrong tagging. I feel like there should be a report button 'Uploader is either an airhead or just didn't give a shit'. I just fixed one where the only source says rat and it was tagged mouse. I get that it's hard to tell if the artist doesn't mention it, but if the actual description says what it is, there really isn't any excuse for the uploader to get it wrong. Such as the staggering amount of people who tag both leopard and snow leopard (just 'snow_leopard leopard solo' is 26 pages, while 'snow_leopard leopard solo hybrid' is only 1 page, most of which are still not leopards) which also has to be done on purpose, it's not going to be implicated by accident like domestic_cat is.
game_boy_console - mostly depicts game_boy_color and/or other models or inspired designs
Messing with Halloween-themed art tagging now. How, exactly, does one determine whether an image is a werewolf or just a muscular anthro on non-TF images? Obviously, for well-known characters like Jon Talbain or Blaidd, it makes sense to use it even if there's no indication there's a human form (I guess a decent amount of weres in fiction either can't shift back to human or choose to stay in anthro form). It's a lot easier to determine for, say, were-deer, where most artists will add fangs and other canine attributes, etc. Obviously this would be a post-TF wolf, https://e621.net/posts/5872489 , https://e621.net/posts/5872477 looks more like a wolf/sabertooth hybrid than a were to me, but the source says were, while the source on this one obliquely mentions werewolf but it looks like the average anthro at his desk.https://e621.net/posts/5800464
kevsnowcat said:
Messing with Halloween-themed art tagging now. How, exactly, does one determine whether an image is a werewolf or just a muscular anthro on non-TF images? Obviously, for well-known characters like Jon Talbain or Blaidd, it makes sense to use it even if there's no indication there's a human form (I guess a decent amount of weres in fiction either can't shift back to human or choose to stay in anthro form). It's a lot easier to determine for, say, were-deer, where most artists will add fangs and other canine attributes, etc. Obviously this would be a post-TF wolf, https://e621.net/posts/5872489 , https://e621.net/posts/5872477 looks more like a wolf/sabertooth hybrid than a were to me, but the source says were, while the source on this one obliquely mentions werewolf but it looks like the average anthro at his desk.https://e621.net/posts/5800464
This has been a long-running debate. There's a faction within the site who is in favor of removing shapeshifter species tags altogether.
| Search | Description |
|---|---|
| bulge balls solo | Usually the balls are either directly visible (tag with balls, NOT bulge) OR inside clothing (tag with bulge, and/or balls_outline). |
If balls partially visible AND partially inside clothing then it seems that tagging with both balls and bulge seems correct. (if i understand the tags correctly)
I've created TagMe projects for:
I also think that gore_focus and gore need some cleanup from users with a stronger stomach than me. There's a lot of gore posts that seem like they should include gore_focus, and a lot of gore posts that are very tame, to the point that wounded is probably more appropriate. As a result, blacklisting gore is kind of a crapshoot right now.
beholding said:
I've created TagMe projects for:I also think that gore_focus and gore need some cleanup from users with a stronger stomach than me. There's a lot of gore posts that seem like they should include gore_focus, and a lot of gore posts that are very tame, to the point that wounded is probably more appropriate. As a result, blacklisting gore is kind of a crapshoot right now.
I don't think you understand what gore focus is for...
snpthecat said:
I don't think you understand what gore focus is for...
Could you educate me instead of being pointlessly vague, please?
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I've been cleaning up implied_* tags over at topic #60538, but there's no way I'm going to be able to do them all. implied_incest and implied_oral have nearly 2000 posts each, and implied_transformation has over 4000. I'd appreciate it if some other users could chip in.
Could you help me find images based on the character Lady Silver created by theSilverHB, also known as Mistress Lady Silver, so that I can add the corresponding Lady Silver tag.
beholding said:
suggestive_clothing badly needs cleanup. Most examples are just skimpy clothing.
should be fully cleared now unless i missed anything!
