Sebastien's Here. YESS.

Seb to the rescue.
There for emotional support as much as he is horny support. Best brother right there.

A nice warm shower will make you feel better.

"My handheld just died, have you seen my other batteries?"

yuuuuuup. good ol' seb.

kinkyrool34 said:
Did she forget that she had a brother in that moment? She just called out for mom and dad and said "welp, guess there's no one else".

She just fell down the stairs, hurt herself doing so, had a heart wrenching reminder that her mother is dead, and then realized that her father might as well be. Expecting a child to continue functioning after that is unrealistic.

markmoonfang said:
Functioning? This is a question about why she forgot about her brother.

markmoonfang said:
This is how the dialog should have gone to be a lot better:

"At that moment, I felt like I lost both of my parents."

"I didn't know what would happen now. Mom gone, you gone. I felt like the world was falling apart."

"Then, he was there..."

That feels a lot better. This dialog makes it seem like she forgot Seb existed.

But, again, she forced herself into the shower and used Push/Pull tactics to get her brother to have sex with her while also making him feel like it was his idea.

markmoonfang said:
Apparently.

kinkyrool34 said:
Did she forget that she had a brother in that moment? She just called out for mom and dad and said "welp, guess there's no one else".

To the comments that are making it look like she forgot about seb, the reason it doesn't mention him till the last panel is because parents are what children go to for emotional support and when their hurt, Sebastian came running cause he heard the fall as a good brother would do when there's a commotion, she was looking for parental help and then the bad memory basically kicked in and she felt alone then when seb came to help she knew she wasn't alone and could rely on him from then on if I worded that correctly also please don't hate me I was just doing my best to explain

loonaxkrystal said:
Sebastien's Here. YESS.

https://youtu.be/e9vrfEoc8_g?si=0R0bhJ_vZCYaNJA2

People really have the most inexplicable hateboner for Serah.

markmoonfang said:
This is how the dialog should have gone to be a lot better:

"At that moment, I felt like I lost both of my parents."

"I didn't know what would happen now. Mom gone, you gone. I felt like the world was falling apart."

"Then, he was there..."

That feels a lot better. This dialog makes it seem like she forgot Seb existed.

But, again, she forced herself into the shower and used Push/Pull tactics to get her brother to have sex with her while also making him feel like it was his idea.

I too love taking fiction 100% seriously and telling the author how to write

These comments make me question my childhood. I can't recall a single time that I was seriously hurt as a kid, and ever went to a sibling for comfort. That's a parent thing. So if I lost my mom and my alcoholic father was a no show, I'd have been feeling the exact same way, and I have TWO siblings. But maybe I'm the odd one out, and it's more "normal" to turn to a sibling, or think of them first over your parents.

menchi327 said:
These comments make me question my childhood. I can't recall a single time that I was seriously hurt as a kid, and ever went to a sibling for comfort. That's a parent thing. So if I lost my mom and my alcoholic father was a no show, I'd have been feeling the exact same way, and I have TWO siblings. But maybe I'm the odd one out, and it's more "normal" to turn to a sibling, or think of them first over your parents.

You're far from the only one. When I was injured as a youngster my first instinct was not to count on my brother to come to my aid. As much as he cared, my mind at the time didn't put him in the 'capable' category regardless of whatever knowledge or skills he might've possessed.

A child's instinct is to turn to an authority or 'bigger person' for help. Most students don't run to fellow students if there's a problem in school; they look for a teacher. Most children don't run to their siblings if there's a problem around the house; they look for their parents.

Serah's behavior is therefore entirely understandable if taken with the context that she was a recently traumatized and now injured child looking for someone 'big' to help pick her up. With mom gone and dad insensate from drinking, a child's logic would lead her to think she wouldn't get help anytime soon, because now the house had no more 'big people' left who could actually do anything.

With this perspective, Seb's entry into this memory at this point specifically elevates him. Because Serah is relaying it secondhand, she can lay out to Keith precisely how and why he dropped the ball in her eyes. Seb, also just a child himself, had to step up to act in the supportive role, because Keith himself could not.

To be honest, I think people aren't realizing that in situations like this, that you get hurt and there is people close by, you scream of pain might just get the attention of anyone, and the person who might get first there to help you may be your sibling, regardless of who you're calling, BUT this is not what black kitten is trying to tell in the story here, it's not what Serah is telling to her father, she is just elaborating her emotions on that moment.

I had a feeling that's where it really began

Yeah... shit like this is a great way to explain why she's less inclined to trust Keith.
Being nearby and not being there to help in a moment of desperation hits doubly hard.
The fact she knew she couldn't count on Keith despite him being there means he has a history of doing this.

This is relatively soon after the mom died so Keith is likely trying to drown his sorrow in booze too
so while it's deplorable, it's kinda understandable he'd want to do that.

So while the siblings have their normal sibling rivalries, this situation establishes who she can count on when shit hits the fan.

God damn are these characters well written.

Anyhow, here's a deliberate misinterpretation to hopefully lighten the mood a bit:
"I fell down the stairs and hurt my leg while you were black out drunk so I decided to fuck my brother"

“If you’re going to keep yelling, can I borrow your earbuds?”

Three cheers for Seb!!!

arragon548 said:
I had a feeling that's where it really began

example: what did this person's harmless comment say that required it to be downvoted ???

cumcover said:
And from that moment she had a crush

and this one ...........

She felt hurt, abandoned and betrayed, but then Seb was there for her. At that moment he was what Keith was supposed to be - caretaker and protector. This was when Seb won a special place in her heart, and it only grew with time.

dryinko said:
A nice warm shower will make you feel better.

Yes, we know. Both of them felt better after that nice warm shower <3

qwazzy said:
It... really isn't.

markmoonfang said:
Functioning? This is a question about why she forgot about her brother.

This may come as a shock to some, but a child who lost a parent and saw another just out of reach but conpletely unavailable isn't going to immediately think "I just messed up my ankle, I should call my sibling, they'll know what to do to make this better" This probably took place over the course of mere seconds. They are probably like 10, maybe less.

When a child is hurt their first instinct is to seek the comfort of the nearest adult, not someone in their own age group.

Called it! But then everyone else must have expected it too. Makes for a great backstory which we didn't really have this part before.

oldrecordplayer said:
"My handheld just died, have you seen my other batteries?"

Kind of upsetting the highest up voted comment is a joke about her brother being insensitive.

noveltwin said:
Kind of upsetting the highest up voted comment is a joke about her brother being insensitive.

There’s a middle ground between dark humor and read the room where some comments tread.

basstard said:
Three cheers for Seb!!!

Hooray

I'm going out on a limb (not easy for a Dragon) and use an odd word for a furry website, but this really "humanizes" Serah - Gives a strong reason for why she turned to Seb as someone more than a brother.

menchi327 said:
These comments make me question my childhood. I can't recall a single time that I was seriously hurt as a kid, and ever went to a sibling for comfort. That's a parent thing. So if I lost my mom and my alcoholic father was a no show, I'd have been feeling the exact same way, and I have TWO siblings. But maybe I'm the odd one out, and it's more "normal" to turn to a sibling, or think of them first over your parents.

People seem to be manipulating the scene. She literally explained that she yelled for her mother first as a reflex (it had only been a month after her mom died) only to realize her mom wasn't coming. She then looked to her father, who was so passed out drunk that he didn't even hear her fall, and realized that he wasn't going to help her either. It was then that Seb arrived to help her. It was then that she most likely realized that with her mom gone and her dad too drunk to even realize his own child was hurt, that pretty much the only person she had left in her life that she could turn to was Seb.

Now I understand why she has a low opinion of her own father. Ever since then, she has felt abandoned by her father. It's not entirely his fault (he lost his wife and must still be going through the pain and mourning), but if he never realized the distance in his relationship with her, he spent a long time not paying attention to his children.

kinkyrool34 said:
Did she forget that she had a brother in that moment? She just called out for mom and dad and said "welp, guess there's no one else".

When I was a child, I would call for my father and mother when I felt scared or in pain.
Never for my brothers, if my parents were within 5 meters of me.

All this curation... *mumbles Jump little children - Vertigo* leanin from the balcony as if without a care, wondrin' should I take the fall or should I take the stair...

It’s so tragic Serah had to lean on her brother for support rather than getting it from Keith. She effectively lost both parents and realized her brother was all she had left in the world.

YEEEES!!

ironhorse said:
>wondering if there is a"click" ya gotta join to post a comment here.< I've noticed some members comments get constantly downvoted, others get downvoted for the simplest comments .. this downvoting system creates a hostile comment environment. .. at the very least comments should not be hidden for the number of downvotes they get... or some could stop weaponizing the voting system

It's not a clique thing, people are just tired of the handful of hateful comments this comic seems to generate by people who seem to be projecting their own insecurities onto it.

Hell, I had long-standing, not-positive tension with my own sister for a long time, and she used to be an overbearing, controlling monster who basically screamed at me every other day, and somehow I still have avoided projecting my own crap onto Serah.

ironhorse said:
>wondering if there is a"click" ya gotta join to post a comment here.< I've noticed some members comments get constantly downvoted, others get downvoted for the simplest comments .. this downvoting system creates a hostile comment environment. .. at the very least comments should not be hidden for the number of downvotes they get... or some could stop weaponizing the voting system

There is no clique, people are allowed to disagree. Some of those "simplest" comments are from people who don't seem to understand the story and are criticising it from that faulty interpretation(and are being exceptionally stubborn about it when corrected).
It should be perfectly allowed to downvote.
But I will agree that hiding those opinions is the wrong thing to do.

shatari said:
She just fell down the stairs, hurt herself doing so, had a heart wrenching reminder that her mother is dead, and then realized that her father might as well be. Expecting a child to continue functioning after that is unrealistic.

You are mostly right but you only glazed over the part of her being a child. When hurt children instinctively seek out their parents rather than their siblings. This is because they are bigger, older, smarter, and wiser on most everything, siblings are more likely to mock and bully than they are too help and if they do they aren't as good as a parent which is why she called out first to mommy and then to her dad. The trauma of that memory would have shocked her into feeling alone and who knows maybe she thought Seb wasn't home at the time. Family death, injury, and emotions tend to muddy people's thoughts as you pointed out. I'm just glad that Seb is a kind responsible sibling over your typical one.

smoketrail said:
As a bipedal digitigrade teenager who descended stairs--likely even faster from the emotional shock of the clear distress of a family member at the bottom--there is absolutely no way Sebastian is bent over reaching out at that angle without being in the process of falling tf over.

Try standing on your toes with knees nearly straight, one foot under your hips and the other only just behind. Bend over at the waist, ~40 degrees. Now put one arm forward and the other slightly out from a neutral position. You fell over.

🤓

Allow me to explain something. When I was a kid, I stayed with my grandparents for the summers. It started off as an "my navy parents need a break from the ADHD/borederline autistic quasipyromaninac demonic crotch goblin" thing, but carried on my entire childhood, long after both of parents retired from military service. My grandparents had a fence for the horse pen that I enjoyed walking on, like any dumb ass kid with more balance than a seesaw does.

One day (I was... 9? Maybe 10?) I slipped. Or the board finally gave. Or something. And I went down. By "down" I mean that I went down balls first on the fence, scraped the ever loving shit out of my inner thighs (I actually still have the scars many years later), and curled up bawling my eyes out. I remind you that, up to this point, I had spent every single summer I could remember, and at least a couple I don't, at my grandparents house. sixteen hours away from my parents.

I knew, in my working brain, that my mother and father were in Virginia. I knew, in my working brain, that my grandparent, one of my uncles, and my aunt were all that were at the house. In my hurt, screaming brain as I wailed in pain and misery because my balls and both legs felt like they were on fire? I screamed for my mother. When my mother didn't answer, I screamed for my father.

I did not register that my grandmother had rushed out before I even started calling for help and was holding me before I changed who I was calling for. I didn't register that my grandfather was trundling out (he was a rather hefty gentleman, and was not fast), and was already barking orders to my aunt and uncle, before I finished calling for both of my parents and started calling for my mother again. It wasn't that my other family members weren't capable of taking care of me. It was just that, as a kid, in sudden, excruciating pain? I was running on pure instinct. And that instinct is to call for your parents.

This girl? Did exactly the fuck any child does in an even *remotely* healthy family environment. She called for mommy and daddy. Give her two minutes and, yeah, she'd have called for Sebastian. But that wasn't two minutes after the injury. That was while her brain was still rebooting, and she was running on instinct. Which is to call for mom - which she then, heart breakingly realized wouldn't ever happen - and dad - who she realized had fucking abandoned her to the wolves and the whims of fate, in spite of the fact she could see his leg. Knock all yo dumb ass shit off trying to demonize a child for acting the way literally any child should. Frankly, if you see a little kid get hurt, even a scraped knee, and their first reaction isn't to call for or go straight to at least one of their parents, that should be a huge red flag.

Becoming my favorite couple on this site which is insane for an incest comic

Ah dangit, caught up again...

Our Boy to the Rescue!!!! 😁