even if you do subscribe to this mindset because you live outside a swing state; even if your presidential vote does get cucked by the electoral college, there's still almost certainly other stuff on the ballot that's important.

maryland_p_sevenson said:
even if you do subscribe to this mindset because you live outside a swing state; even if your presidential vote does get cucked by the electoral college, there's still almost certainly other stuff on the ballot that's important.

Personally I don't because I find it difficult to actually get information on who is doing what so I would be making an uninformed decision. Only things I ever hear about are the memetic statements/events and trying to find real non-conflicting information in an ocean of propaganda and filler is exhausting. Then the sources themselves can be biased to the point that it makes it uninformative or reductive. Or the policies brought up in the occasional city-measure ballots we get are written in a way that is either difficult to follow or misleading (I am terrible at legal-language).
I would rather make an informed decision rather than having peers and family telling me who to vote for at the end of the day and I just can't seem to find any that's satisfactory or clear enough for me to parse.

straightupmia said:
Personally I don't because I find it difficult to actually get information on who is doing what so I would be making an uninformed decision. Only things I ever hear about are the memetic statements/events and trying to find real non-conflicting information in an ocean of propaganda and filler is exhausting. Then the sources themselves can be biased to the point that it makes it uninformative or reductive. Or the policies brought up in the occasional city-measure ballots we get are written in a way that is either difficult to follow or misleading (I am terrible at legal-language).
I would rather make an informed decision rather than having peers and family telling me who to vote for at the end of the day and I just can't seem to find any that's satisfactory or clear enough for me to parse.

I mean, you can just abstain from voting on the stuff you're uncertain of. no one's forcing you to fill in a bubble for every single office and every single proposition.

if you're really undecided on pretty much _everything_, then yeah, don't vote, I guess. but, at least for a significant portion of the population, the effort required to actually get your vote in is so absolutely miniscule that it'd behoove you to at least make the consideration.

maryland_p_sevenson said:
I mean, you can just abstain from voting on the stuff you're uncertain of. no one's forcing you to fill in a bubble for every single office and every single proposition.

if you're really undecided on pretty much _everything_, then yeah, don't vote, I guess. but, at least for a significant portion of the population, the effort required to actually get your vote in is so absolutely miniscule that it'd behoove you to at least make the consideration.

Yeah that's generally my approach, I'm kind of a "nothing" person. Never really had much faith in politic(ian)s either.
I guess I'm just a bit critical toward the "culture" surrounding voting for lack of a better word. Like even in this little silly pool of images it insists you vote to "avoid 4 more years of hell" which implies you should vote but vote a certain way usually which kinda goes against the message that you should make your own decision on candidates and the other items on the ballot. Same sort of pattern just seems to repeat itself in media where the plot basically goes "okay vote!" "no not like that!" and it just ends up souring further interactions. Just ends up being a massive headache and people complain about the people/things they voted in half the time anyway.