Save her.

loads up 12 gauge shotgun

THEY BETTER FUCKING HOPE NOT!!!

Ironically enough, this lawsuit reminds me of the 'Universal City Studios vs Nintendo / King Kong vs Donkey Kong' suit from 1983. Just... In reverse.

Damn that was fast lol

Assuming that not much changed between 2001 and now, this'll most likely end similarly like Starballz.

I hope Nintendo loses their lolsuit. I like palworld too much for it to get the megacorp treatment.

The Lawsuit is specifically for "Patent Infringement," not copyright. The honestly leads me to believe that Nintendo is mad that a different Creature Capture did so well. Like what "patent" could Pocket Pair have Infringed that Nintendo/Pokemon wouldn't have stopped sooner if it was actually a problem?

Also fuck being able to patent game play mechanics.

zombiedwolf said:
The Lawsuit is specifically for "Patent Infringement," not copyright. The honestly leads me to believe that Nintendo is mad that a different Creature Capture did so well. Like what "patent" could Pocket Pair have Infringed that Nintendo/Pokemon wouldn't have stopped sooner if it was actually a problem?

Also fuck being able to patent game play mechanics.

Agreed. You shouldn't be able to patent gameplay mechanics, just like you shouldn't be able to patent a specific kind gl program.

Nintendo providing yet another reminder of why I don’t buy their products.

hansgottheluger said:
Nintendo providing yet another reminder of why I don’t buy their products.

Same. Nintendo is quickly becoming Public Enemy # 1 in my eyes. What a scourge on the Earth. I won't even buy the Animal Crossing anymore.

"sueing Pocketpair over patent infringement due for damages to IP."

Nintendo, kindly fuck off, please. This company became such a monopoly money hungry cooperation, even something so little as Palworld is being treated as a legitimate threat....over NOTHING!

blunni said:
Ironically enough, this lawsuit reminds me of the 'Universal City Studios vs Nintendo / King Kong vs Donkey Kong' suit from 1983. Just... In reverse.

Literally THIS right here!

Nintendo: "You know what? Fuck You."
*Un-pals your world.*

zombiedwolf said:
The Lawsuit is specifically for "Patent Infringement," not copyright. The honestly leads me to believe that Nintendo is mad that a different Creature Capture did so well. Like what "patent" could Pocket Pair have Infringed that Nintendo/Pokemon wouldn't have stopped sooner if it was actually a problem?

Also fuck being able to patent game play mechanics.

Yeah, they are basically laying claim to a genre which is harder to prove than a copyright suit which Nintendo would have an easier time proving.

I think Palworld if they make it through this should wear the badge with honor that Nintendo considers Palworld a genuine competitor. If you are able to make nearly half a billion in a month with a budget of a million that would send any competitor into a panic.

Like does Palworld even sell any merch?

honestheart said:
Yeah, they are basically laying claim to a genre which is harder to prove than a copyright suit which Nintendo would have an easier time proving.

I think Palworld if they make it through this should wear the badge with honor that Nintendo considers Palworld a genuine competitor. If you are able to make nearly half a billion in a month with a budget of a million that would send any competitor into a panic.

Like does Palworld even sell any merch?

my thoughts are that Nintendo is trying to shut Pocketpair and Palworld down because they have a new Pokemon game lined up that does some similar things as to what Palworld does and want to fully ensure that there are ZERO difficulties with their new game launching and selling... They shut down the fan game Another Metroid 2 Remake and a few months later Nintendo released Metroid Samus Returns. (they didn't want the fan game to interfere with sales of their own remake.)

I looked more into it and watched several videos of people and legal experts discussing it and its honestly more fucked up.

We don't know all patents Nintendo/Pokemon own but the few that are public that have any sort of relevance are so vague literally any creature capture game can fall under it.

They are purposely made too so the patents are broad enough to cover several bases if need be.

Nintendo can, if they want, go after any creature capture game but only decided to go after Palworld cause it actually posed a threat and Pokemon would have to try harder.

Instead of doing that though they decided to strong arm Pocket Pair. They'd rather snuff out the competition than do more work on the games.

Fuck Nintendo, this is petty at best and out right evil at worse.

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/the-pokemon-company

here is the link to the patents if anyone else wants to have a look

By this point, I’m morally obligated to stop giving Nintendo my money. Even if it means I miss out on Metroid Prime 4.

I hope they finally get a riot at their headquarters. They can’t keep getting away with this shit.

i’m not taking sides here, but nintendo’s just a greedy corporation who doesn’t give a single sh it about people’s passions, for example: MULTIPLE FUCKING .EXE’s WERE MADE FROM MARIO OR NINTENDO GAMES AND THEY DID JACKSHIT TO THE CREATORS, no lawsuits, no sues, no threats, no nothing! but again: i’m not taking sides

ry-ak_zahl said:
my thoughts are that Nintendo is trying to shut Pocketpair and Palworld down because they have a new Pokemon game lined up that does some similar things as to what Palworld does and want to fully ensure that there are ZERO difficulties with their new game launching and selling... They shut down the fan game Another Metroid 2 Remake and a few months later Nintendo released Metroid Samus Returns. (they didn't want the fan game to interfere with sales of their own remake.)

They also shut down a fan Mario 99 game and then released their own Mario 35... and then shut that down too.

Nintendo said "we are the only ones who can play with balls"

zombiedwolf said:
I looked more into it and watched several videos of people and legal experts discussing it and its honestly more fucked up.

We don't know all patents Nintendo/Pokemon own but the few that are public that have any sort of relevance are so vague literally any creature capture game can fall under it.

They are purposely made too so the patents are broad enough to cover several bases if need be.

Nintendo can, if they want, go after any creature capture game but only decided to go after Palworld cause it actually posed a threat and Pokemon would have to try harder.

Instead of doing that though they decided to strong arm Pocket Pair. They'd rather snuff out the competition than do more work on the games.

Since there are very few creature capturing games that are about as viable as Pokemon, you could argue that it is anti-competitive behavior that can be used for.

If we the people can get our balls and Pals together and sue Pokemon for violating anti-trust laws, then we'd have a good case, especially if this goes through and Nintendo wins.

If Nintendo loses, we can breathe a sigh of relief and keep the legal precedent in case they try something similar to more competitors.

Man, I hope Palworld/Pocketpair manage to beat back this threat. They deserve the success they've achieved.

honestheart said:
Like does Palworld even sell any merch?

As a matter of fact, they do!

zombiedwolf said:
I looked more into it and watched several videos of people and legal experts discussing it and its honestly more fucked up.

We don't know all patents Nintendo/Pokemon own but the few that are public that have any sort of relevance are so vague literally any creature capture game can fall under it.

They are purposely made too so the patents are broad enough to cover several bases if need be.

Nintendo can, if they want, go after any creature capture game but only decided to go after Palworld cause it actually posed a threat and Pokemon would have to try harder.

Instead of doing that though they decided to strong arm Pocket Pair. They'd rather snuff out the competition than do more work on the games.

Fuck Nintendo, this is petty at best and out right evil at worse.

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/the-pokemon-company

here is the link to the patents if anyone else wants to have a look

So essentially they're doing the same shit that Disney just pulled a month ago by deliberately hiding their stuff from the public.

You know this lawsuit is frivolous nonsense because the patents that were allegedly infringed upon were filed after Palworld's release. In literally any other country but Japan, Nintendo would get laughed out of court for attempting something like that.

zerorm said:
You know this lawsuit is frivolous nonsense because the patents that were allegedly infringed upon were filed after Palworld's release. In literally any other country but Japan, Nintendo would get laughed out of court for attempting something like that.

It gets even worse cause Craftopia came out even sooner and it also as the same catching mechanic.

zombiedwolf said:
It gets even worse cause Craftopia came out even sooner and it also as the same catching mechanic.

My interpretation of this lawsuit is that the Gen 9 Pokemon games must have underperformed or perhaps even lost money (note: sales numbers only tell you the gross revenue, not their net profit), otherwise they wouldn't worry about a small competitor like Pocket Pair.

zombiedwolf said:
The Lawsuit is specifically for "Patent Infringement," not copyright. The honestly leads me to believe that Nintendo is mad that a different Creature Capture did so well. Like what "patent" could Pocket Pair have Infringed that Nintendo/Pokemon wouldn't have stopped sooner if it was actually a problem?

Also fuck being able to patent game play mechanics.

Well letting everyone know how this happen. The Pokémon Company and Nintendo filed a two Patents on March 2nd of 2024, one is for "Catching" and the other is for "Mounts/Mounting." With their cat hing version is how a character throws a pokéball in Pokémon, as well as using said "catched" creature to battle for you. The mount is basically like how you ride Pokémon in sun/Moon and Ultra Sun/Ultra moon, let's go, legends arceus and Scarlet/Violet, in this case they use ground mounts but after reading the patent it's for ANY mounting. One publication Aug 22, the other Aug 29th. (Both 2024)

cyber_phazon_gotdm said:
Well letting everyone know how this happen. The Pokémon Company and Nintendo filed a two Patents on March 2nd of 2024, one is for "Catching" and the other is for "Mounts/Mounting." With their cat hing version is how a character throws a pokéball in Pokémon, as well as using said "catched" creature to battle for you. The mount is basically like how you ride Pokémon in sun/Moon and Ultra Sun/Ultra moon, let's go, legends arceus and Scarlet/Violet, in this case they use ground mounts but after reading the patent it's for ANY mounting. One publication Aug 22, the other Aug 29th. (Both 2024)

In other words they did a dirty where now this is patent publicly, Noone can make a catching Gane anymore, maybe not allow mounts anymore. They're going after palworld first because they know it's a rival to Pokémon, so they using what I call "organize crime" loopholes such as the patent for their now "mechanic patent idea" to shut down palworld, or at least get less times for the game to be worked on. This is a BS move for Nintendo and technically this loophole can't be taken down... at least that I know of. So if pocket pair loses to Nintendo they have to lose mounting/riding, and /ir swap the palshere with some other capture system.

carnivore4lyf said:
Assuming that not much changed between 2001 and now, this'll most likely end similarly like Starballz.

I laughed harder than I should have when I found out that there was a Star Wars porno parody made in 2001.

wankerwond said:
I laughed harder than I should have when I found out that there was a Star Wars porno parody made in 2001.

Wait until you find out about Super Hornio Brothers I and II. Long story short: Nintendo finds out you can't sue for copyright infringement when it comes to porn that is made as a parody, but you can legally purchase the rights. So Nintendo for over the last 30 years has been the proud owner of two porn movies from the early 90s just to make sure they never see the light of day again.

cyber_phazon_gotdm said:
In other words they did a dirty where now this is patent publicly, Noone can make a catching Gane anymore, maybe not allow mounts anymore. They're going after palworld first because they know it's a rival to Pokémon, so they using what I call "organize crime" loopholes such as the patent for their now "mechanic patent idea" to shut down palworld, or at least get less times for the game to be worked on. This is a BS move for Nintendo and technically this loophole can't be taken down... at least that I know of. So if pocket pair loses to Nintendo they have to lose mounting/riding, and /ir swap the palshere with some other capture system.

The problem for Nintendo is that there's a thing called "prior art". Basically, if it can be proven that somebody else was already using an idea that you patented, then not only do you lose your case for infringement, you also lose the patent. The whole point of Prior Art is to prevent exactly what Nintendo is trying to pull right now: patenting something retroactively and abusing it to go after their competitors.

One of the most famous examples of this happened in the American aviation industry in its early days. The Wright Brothers spent the better part of a decade patent trolling anyone else in the US who tried to make planes, until Glenn Curtiss was able to win the case based on arguing prior art (it specifically had something to do with wings and control surfaces). Now, I don't know if this applies to Japanese patent law, but if they tried to file this suit in the US or any other common law country, it'd be thrown out on these grounds.