Now do one for mares! - and I'm being honest here. The number of times greater and greater liberties are taken with the 'anatomically correct' illustrations...

ggdk said:
Now do one for mares! - and I'm being honest here. The number of times greater and greater liberties are taken with the 'anatomically correct' illustrations...

Couldn't agree more, this is why I come back to this artist time and time again, the cookies look delicious and they respect the anatomy. I will say that although trugrave draws them wrong they still look delicious.

Although I was embarrassed at first to be included as a wrong example, this has been helpful. Thank you! Really love how much the feral community cares
(if I make mistakes in the future, I'm sorry, still learning)

Edumacational! They don't teach that in art school. Downloaded in case it ever gets taken down too. Thanks for making this!

thats one way to be recognized and informed about mistake i guess.
good to know XD

but yea, thank you. any knowledge helps ;3

This is really cool! I've noticed there's few people who really know how to get the anatomy right. Which is fair enough, I don't think anyone wants to Google "dog butt" lol

Anchee draws some beautiful realistic canine bits, so does marjani and toots.

Long over due.
Horses next?
Too many don't know where the vagina is, usually showing urethral penetration and that's not possible.

The art by Manahallowhound listed as a "wrong" example is actually entirely accurate because the vulva is being manually pushed into that position and spread open by hand and you can even see the bunched up tissue of the vestibule drawn between the vulva and the anus. However the creator of this is correct on the point about the "tube entrance" or vestibule and the resting position of the vulva normally. If it were fixed there then it would be really hard for dogs reproduce since males have a rigid bone in their penis.

draycros said:
The art by Manahallowhound listed as a "wrong" example is actually entirely accurate because the vulva is being manually pushed into that position and spread open by hand and you can even see the bunched up tissue of the vestibule drawn between the vulva and the anus.

No, he's still right. Even while being lifted and spread, the hole would be more around the center and not the bottom. Just look at digitoxici's image. Flip that upside down and that's how Manahallowhound should've done it.

Really informative actually, ty.

Very Informative
Please make one for big cats as well, Thank you :)

Whoever made this didn't really describe #2 Intuitively enough or really in layman's terms. They Shoulda just said that the Labia & hole is "shifted" back upwards towards the tail when the female is consenting. Otherwise that "taint hood" is stretched down over the actual passage

You're so-called "pancake" is the only one that really bothers me. Or the occasional upside down situation.

xaorxix said:
Very Informative
Please make one for big cats as well, Thank you :)

Female big cats have really pretty genitalia, it's quite similar to a humans, just smaller and situated closer to the anus, which is a horizontal shaped entrance. The butt hole of a big cat is right where the tail meets the body. Here's a great example: https://e621.net/posts/2031219?q=anatomically_correct_pussy+felid

And this: https://e621.net/posts/3124862?q=animal_pussy+Felid

Gonna add my 3 cents here.

Yes, this is a VERY good guide for all things good and bad, but like all 'anatomically correct' genitalia for male of female X critter on a anthro humanoid body, there's going to be some bits of discrepancy to make up for evolution, organ placement, body structure, evolutionary Tab A goes into Slot B sort of fidgetry. I like my spades and knots, but there's got to be some sort of give on a bit of imagination as to far as how things look. Sure, when it's on a four legged non-anthro canid, then by all means make it proper. When it's an anthro, well, you're going to have to get a bit creative with placement, etc.

Were they naturally evolved, were they tank grown, geneginered, what?
(yes, I know that's a bit deep for dog poon thinking)

And much like humans, not every pooch poon or peen is going to be the same.

Personally I like the big oversized vulva's like this:

https://e621.net/posts/3184652 (as a recent example) https://e621.net/posts/779070 https://e621.net/posts/2095394 (Zaigane does good ones when they post)

Truegrave always seems to be my favorite because it's a nice blend of BIG and thick compared to body frame. Also, since TG's never done a lithe canine that's got a spade (that I'm aware of) you consider a thicker/full framed body is going to have a bit more fat distribution over it, thusly larger tits, thighs, spade, etc. Granted, I'd love to see TG draw a athletic/trim type canid girl with a oversized face covering spade, but ah, likely won't happen. I also am quite fond of the whole extra bit of 'nub' that TG draws, something to play with in one way or another. Who knows, if they were were 'created' might be an extra bit to torment to make said critter flutter!

Similar to these by Toots:

https://e621.net/posts/2689327 https://e621.net/posts/2476510 https://e621.net/posts/2257965 https://www.furaffinity.net/view/41696665/ (Swore this was posted here, guess not)

Then you have some by Kaze~inu while the hips are a bit big for my liking, unf, https://e621.net/posts/3164944 That Y, so nice. https://e621.net/posts/3145883

But when it comes to feral, Fiftyfithfleet's Deliah is my favorite, with Halbean's Monica as second!

Delilah: https://e621.net/posts/2621884 https://e621.net/posts/2559813 and Milf Delilah https://e621.net/posts/2844152 !!!

But what I'm overall getting at, besides showing off some of my favorite examples is that everyone's got a difference preference. Some like super huge spades, like some like mega tits! I like small ones myself, tits that is) but massive spades! I also like the idea of a massive oh god displacing my internal organs big black canine dick and knot, while others cuter smaller. Everyone's going have a preference for likes and dislikes, as well as the actual arrangement of plumbing.

There's no real wrong or right, as it's all just fantasy after all!

If I were to wager what a proper size/proportion to an adult female anthro canid would be, it'd be very much like this one by Puppymachine https://e621.net/posts/2730293 granted, her bits all black! ;D

Over all my only major peeve is that when someone who's doing one for the first time draws it upside down, like, how do you even, especially after doing it from reference! Arg!

I could keep blathering on, but I'll stop here. Lets just take the reference for what it is, and hopefully folks will understand how things are supposed to look as a general overall, as most ain't TOO concerned with the insides.

Shingen said:
uh, i don't know what kind of expertise does the author have in this topic, but while some of these make sense, he definitely overdoes the way that a vagina goes first up towards the anus and then parallel to it, especially on the 2nd graphic (the pink "love tunnel", ugh) - like what the actual fuck? how is a dog supposed to blindly slide inside something that goes vertically and then bends 90 degrees with his bone-stiffened dick?every single anatomical picture i've seen shows the vagina go at most about 45 degrees up at first, and without any significant bending, which would be detrimental to their reproduction.

Because dogs typically thrust upwards because of how their anatomy is shaped, that way it slides upwards into the vagina, then follows the curve horizontally into it fully.

While I'm glad to see this being posted (especially love all the examples used for reference), I'm honestly just happy that canine pussy as a tag has seemingly become more and more popular recently (I remember years back when it was basically non-existent). If nothing else, this post and GoldAnthroWolf's post have introduced me to several wonderful artists and images I'd have missed.

letmefall said:
You're so-called "pancake" is the only one that really bothers me. Or the occasional upside down situation.

Yes I am a pancake duh.

ggdk said:
Now do one for mares! - and I'm being honest here. The number of times greater and greater liberties are taken with the 'anatomically correct' illustrations...

I've considered it but there are plenty of other creatures that could use the love and many mistakes people aren't even aware they're making. Such as, did you know that despite being a part of the canid family, foxes don't actually have a cookie? Weird right? I may go into detail about this later in a guide.

wobblelava said:
Although I was embarrassed at first to be included as a wrong example, this has been helpful. Thank you! Really love how much the feral community cares
(if I make mistakes in the future, I'm sorry, still learning)

suirodnemsa said:
thats one way to be recognized and informed about mistake i guess.
good to know XD

but yea, thank you. any knowledge helps ;3

No problem, while my own art skills are subpar, I still wanted to try my best at relaying this information to help those who are interested in improving.

draycros said:
The art by Manahallowhound listed as a "wrong" example is actually entirely accurate because the vulva is being manually pushed into that position and spread open by hand and you can even see the bunched up tissue of the vestibule drawn between the vulva and the anus.

On the contrary! To have the hole at the bottom would imply it's been stretched far past the anus, like, grotesquely so, which is not represented in Manahollowhounds art.

idel said:
I like truegrave because they are one of the only artists I know that pay attention to fine details and make sure everything is correct and in order

I love Truegrave's art. I believe he does a lot of things right when it comes to anatomy, which is why I find it so strange that when it comes to cookies, his presentation is lacking. I'm not even talking about his anthro versions either. The "pancake" example, he does consistently on ferals, even when considering the perspective in many pieces. As he is so well known, I believe he was the best to use for the two examples.

iller said:
Otherwise that "taint hood" is stretched down over the actual passage

That’s not an entirely accurate way of putting it either. That makes it seem like they have some weird skin piece that can block intercourse. I know that canines can "lift" their vagina to create a straighter path, which makes mating easier but it's also very common they don't do this, and that is why males have a bone too because it can lift their vagina for them while flaccid. Perhaps I could go into detail about this in another guide but I felt what I presented was enough for the time being. I’d like to improve my own art so I could do a proper breakdown instead of using examples.

goldanthrowolf said:
But what I'm overall getting at, besides showing off some of my favorite examples is that everyone's got a difference preference. Some like super huge spades, like some like mega tits! I like small ones myself, tits that is) but massive spades! I also like the idea of a massive oh god displacing my internal organs big black canine dick and knot, while others cuter smaller. Everyone's going have a preference for likes and dislikes, as well as the actual arrangement of plumbing.

I think you either didn't read past the title of my guide or you decided to ignore my intentions. I stated at the top and bottom that if people like a "style", that's fine, but what I was presenting is a true anatomically correct view. I understand there's a bit more leeway with anthro's. I'm aware that not everyone knows, cares, or even wants a true anatomical take on pussy/internal stuff. This is a guide, not a hard-fast rule. I'll be happy if even one artist uses what I posted, but if not, that's totally fine too. All I'm doing is putting the information out there, not dictating how artists should draw.

However, no matter how much you dislike it. Anatomically correct has meaning. If it doesn’t follow the formula, it ceases to be anatomically correct. This isn’t about preference, it’s about facts and the unfortunate thing about art is that artists reference other artists and perpetuate incorrect anatomy, either knowingly or not. If an artist IS interested in getting as close as possible to anatomically correct, then this guide is for them. For others interested in their own “style”, well, again, that’s fine but it’s not correct.

Either way, I appreciate everyone's comments. I made this on a whim and am surprised it even got as much attention as it has. Hopefully, as I refine my own drawing skills, I’ll be able to provide a higher quality and entirely independent guide without the need for examples. Also, late replies because I had to wait a week to post.

starmoonpuppy said:
Because dogs typically thrust upwards because of how their anatomy is shaped, that way it slides upwards into the vagina, then follows the curve horizontally into it fully.

sigh. yes, upwards, hence the ~45-degree-angled straight tunnel fits nicely and doesn't risk, y'know, perforating the vagina. i don't think you realize how hard would it be to straighten out a flesh tube and to move all the insides away, all while ramming it blindly with a pointy stick in a sexual craze :|
canine dicks aren't nice soft silicone dildos that "follow" the bends in your rectum and intestines - and people who use such long toys do it rather gently, at least at first.

dcl69 said:
I’d like to improve my own art so I could do a proper breakdown instead of using examples.

Well good luck with that... but Popularizing a concept through Art is all about not just communicating the raw mechanics of ideas, (We ALL wish it was that simple), it's more about how Well the artist communicates with the masses, and their sensibilities. Not to sound too cynical but as someone who's seen it all in this fandom since the mid 90's: Style wins over Substance and that means pandering to people's misconceptions.

iller said:
Style wins over Substance and that means pandering to people's misconceptions.

Not to sound too pompous but a teacher isn't interested in pandering to the masses, they're only there to give the tools to those willing to learn, so that they may do with that knowledge what they will. As I've said many times, both in my comment and in the guide. This has nothing to do with "style". This is just knowledge open to those interested.

i love this and more people need to know about this and canine penises too the tips are always wrong

wobblelava said:
Although I was embarrassed at first to be included as a wrong example, this has been helpful. Thank you! Really love how much the feral community cares
(if I make mistakes in the future, I'm sorry, still learning)

Now that I've been "educated", I can't unsee the nub in your pfp

shingen said:
uh, i don't know what kind of expertise does the author have in this topic, but while some of these make sense, he definitely overdoes the way that a vagina goes first up towards the anus and then parallel to it, especially on the 2nd graphic (the pink "love tunnel", ugh) - like what the actual fuck? how is a dog supposed to blindly slide inside something that goes vertically and then bends 90 degrees with his bone-stiffened dick?
every single anatomical picture i've seen shows the vagina go at most about 45 degrees up at first, and without any significant bending, which would be detrimental to their reproduction.

And what exactly is YOUR expertise on the topic? Hate to break it to you but dogs are built to take dog dick, not yours 🤷‍♀️ It just works differently.

albinoraynedeer said:
And what exactly is YOUR expertise on the topic? Hate to break it to you but dogs are built to take dog dick, not yours 🤷‍♀️ It just works differently.

hate to break it to you, but this kind of bend would literally make it easier to be fucked by a human than by a dog. judging on my surface level of knowledge of physics, anatomy, etc. - not experience.
the "being hard for a dog to fuck it" was kind of LITERALLY MY EXPLICITLY STATED POINT.

words just fly over people's heads

dcl69 said:
I've considered it but there are plenty of other creatures that could use the love and many mistakes people aren't even aware they're making. Such as, did you know that despite being a part of the canid family, foxes don't actually have a cookie? Weird right? I may go into detail about this later in a guide.

I'm curious how a real fox looks like, hope you can post it

todd_r_fox said:
I'm curious how a real fox looks like, hope you can post it

It's certainly something I have on my list but trying to juggle RL and practicing is pretty difficult, as this is more a hobby than anything else. But! I'm playing with an idea of how a cookie would work on an anthro. This is a very rough preview but we all have to start somewhere. Once I get the anatomy to look right, I'll probably make another tutorial on pure feral cookie, anthro and a semi blend between for style variation.

I like anatomical correct things, but I also like semi anatomical correct things (like the wrong examples in this guide).

Also I think e621 should make some dedicated page for all the anatomical guides and people who knows about actual anatomy should chose which guides should be included there, so more people would understand how anatomy works on different animals.

ggdk said:
Now do one for mares! - and I'm being honest here. The number of times greater and greater liberties are taken with the 'anatomically correct' illustrations...

The most popular mistake in mare pussies is when they are (for some reason) drawn upside down. I saw that on a lot of MLP artworks.

"pussy tube" and "butt tube" What lovely terminology!

Honestly when you're getting THIS deep into realism, there's something wrong with you. I know I'm not alone in thinking this, and I also know I'll be attacked for holding that view, by people angry at having a mirror held up to them.

carbonfibreclue said:
Honestly when you're getting THIS deep into realism, there's something wrong with you. I know I'm not alone in thinking this, and I also know I'll be attacked for holding that view, by people angry at having a mirror held up to them.

Perhaps there is something wrong with you by thinking this way?

I’m curious if any of these examples could actually occur, like pancake pussy or visible clit, like how human women can have very widely different pussy. Whether a “deformity” or not, it would be cool to see what the limits are, and what would constitute an incorrect but real formation. (Like how hypoplasia is an incorrect placement of urethra hole but it’s a real occurrence)
Maybe a dog happens to just have a really flattened vulva for some reason. And maybe they have high testosterone to make their clit stick out like a pseudo penis.

The cookie Connoisseur

bluemoonstruckwolf said:
I’m curious if any of these examples could actually occur, like pancake pussy or visible clit, like how human women can have very widely different pussy. Whether a “deformity” or not, it would be cool to see what the limits are, and what would constitute an incorrect but real formation. (Like how hypoplasia is an incorrect placement of urethra hole but it’s a real occurrence)
Maybe a dog happens to just have a really flattened vulva for some reason. And maybe they have high testosterone to make their clit stick out like a pseudo penis.

Last one would be horrible, actually because it's usually hypoplasia, tumours, prolapse and even pseudo-hermaphroditism. Also, given the clit is internal, not external like on a human; If it starts poking out, you're gonna need a vet visit because it would be an obstruction and possibly painful and they can accidentally cause trauma to themselves. It's not cool.

dcl69 said:
It's certainly something I have on my list but trying to juggle RL and practicing is pretty difficult, as this is more a hobby than anything else. But! I'm playing with an idea of how a cookie would work on an anthro. This is a very rough preview but we all have to start somewhere. Once I get the anatomy to look right, I'll probably make another tutorial on pure feral cookie, anthro and a semi blend between for style variation.

It's almost a year, and I wonder if you have any progress on the anatomically correct fox holes :3

this is very informative, thank you kindly, just today i wanted to practice some cookie

beautiful reference thanks op

starmoonpuppy said:

Because dogs typically thrust upwards because of how their anatomy is shaped, that way it slides upwards into the vagina, then follows the curve horizontally into it fully.

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