I agree

Cute little Ghost

Who else screwed up and used a bench and got stuck because you kept respawning in an area that you couldn't get out of *cough cough* city of tears *cough cough*

doominator843 said:
Who else screwed up and used a bench and got stuck because you kept respawning in an area that you couldn't get out of *cough cough* city of tears *cough cough*

Yes *has flashback* yes i do

Why does he always seem haunted like he has PTSD?

little_mac said:
Why does he always seem haunted like he has PTSD?

Because he really does have PTSD. Extreme spoilers ahead. As a Vessel, his very birth was a traumatic experience, so much so that he repressed the memory of it so deep that he had to use the Dream Nail on himself to remember it. He - along with thousands of his siblings - was born from an egg infused with Void: a liquid substance with anti-life properties that kills everything it touches... most died in the process of being born. He literally had to climb out of a pile of his sibling's corpses just to see the light of day. See the cutscene here.

"Man."

temp7 said:
Because he really does have PTSD. Extreme spoilers ahead. As a Vessel, his very birth was a traumatic experience, so much so that he repressed the memory of it so deep that he had to use the Dream Nail on himself to remember it. He - along with thousands of his siblings - was born from an egg infused with Void: a liquid substance with anti-life properties that kills everything it touches... most died in the process of being born. He literally had to climb out of a pile of his sibling's corpses just to see the light of day. See the cutscene here.

Cool

Me, just waiting for WW3 to Start becuase of the ukraine conflict.

temp7 said:
Because he really does have PTSD. Extreme spoilers ahead. As a Vessel, his very birth was a traumatic experience, so much so that he repressed the memory of it so deep that he had to use the Dream Nail on himself to remember it. He - along with thousands of his siblings - was born from an egg infused with Void: a liquid substance with anti-life properties that kills everything it touches... most died in the process of being born. He literally had to climb out of a pile of his sibling's corpses just to see the light of day. See the cutscene here.

Well yeah, but They’re meant to be an emotionless husk with no willpower or sense of self. The vessels were created to contain the infection so needed to have no mind to become mad. It’s said that the protagonist is a perfect vessel, having not developed a mind of their own. The Hollow Knight however, they did develop a mind and the ability to feel, so they suffer from a lot more than ptsd.

ikarugabird said:
Well yeah, but They’re meant to be an emotionless husk with no willpower or sense of self. The vessels were created to contain the infection so needed to have no mind to become mad. It’s said that the protagonist is a perfect vessel, having not developed a mind of their own. The Hollow Knight however, they did develop a mind and the ability to feel, so they suffer from a lot more than ptsd.

temp7 said:
You're confusing things. First off, the Hollow Knight was said to be the perfect vessel, not the protagonist. The Hollow Knight failed spectacularly, because it was never truly hollow to begin with. The protagonist is explicitly a discard: even more imperfect than the Hollow Knight was. Secondly, the protagonist definitely has PTSD - it hid the memory of it's birth in the Abyss so deep that only the Dream Nail could bring it out.The overarching point of Hollow Knight is that you can be more than you are destined to be. It's strongly implied that following in the steps of the Hollow Knight will only end up repeating the cycle - it's up to the protagonist to break the cycle by going beyond it's intended purpose.

ikarugabird said:
The hollow knight was said to have been perfect but became flawed (possibly from developing a parental attachment to the pale king). The white lady says the flaw that appeared in the hollow knight isn’t present in the protagonist.

doominator843 said:
Who else screwed up and used a bench and got stuck because you kept respawning in an area that you couldn't get out of *cough cough* city of tears *cough cough*

my mom?

doominator843 said:
Who else screwed up and used a bench and got stuck because you kept respawning in an area that you couldn't get out of *cough cough* city of tears *cough cough*

I'm stuck on the hive right now.

temp7 said:
The same White Lady that directly admits that she misjudged the Hollow Knight in the first place. The Hollow Knight was never emotionless: it looked back at the Protagonist as it left the Abyss, long before it could have developed any attachment to the Pale King. Even if none of that was true, EVERY piece of lore/dialogue about the Protagonist indicates he has both a will and emotions, rendering him impure. Even the shades he leaves behind are literally called 'regrets'.

I love the lore debates happening here

temp7 said:
The same White Lady that directly admits that she misjudged the Hollow Knight in the first place. The Hollow Knight was never emotionless: it looked back at the Protagonist as it left the Abyss, long before it could have developed any attachment to the Pale King. Even if none of that was true, EVERY piece of lore/dialogue about the Protagonist indicates he has both a will and emotions, rendering him impure. Even the shades he leaves behind are literally called 'regrets'.

watermellonqwerty said:
Also I would like to add on that the Knight that we play as may be flawed, but does still have a chance of becoming more pure than anyone could have ever expected thanks to the godseekers. They seem to have a unique ability to make something into it's stronger, and more godlike form the more that they believe in the "God". (An example would be the hollow knight themselves as they have all traces of the infection removed in godhome) and despite the gods seekers only seeing ghost as a mere casual, as we continue to defeat the pantheons, they believe more and more in us as being the ultimate higher being, which gives us the power to take on the form of the shade lord, the embodiment of the void itself, and utterly and completely destroy the radiance. Or you could be a lame dude and take dream no more.

scpintercom said:
wait, it was interpreted as the protag becoming shade lord? I saw it as a summoning