serpent (bible) created by zeptophidia
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This is basically how it went, right? XD

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  • You mean the same god who put it there in the first place and also has absolute knowledge of the future and therefore knows what you're gonna do before you do it?

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  • PolishOnion said:
    There exist unchaste ones too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    It reminds me of a story I heard of a nun (I think she was a nun or something like that she had a vow of chastity at least)
    She was talking to her friends and commented that "God did a good job on that one" about a guy that passed by. Her friends were shocked and she defended herself by saying "I can look at the menu, I just can't order"

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  • warriorking9001 said:
    It reminds me of a story I heard of a nun (I think she was a nun or something like that she had a vow of chastity at least)
    She was talking to her friends and commented that "God did a good job on that one" about a guy that passed by. Her friends were shocked and she defended herself by saying "I can look at the menu, I just can't order"

    Good one.

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  • ForThePlot said:
    You mean the same god who put it there in the first place and also has absolute knowledge of the future and therefore knows what you're gonna do before you do it?

    Lol, true. Although, It was the only interesting thing they could’ve done. They could’ve spent a trillion Years or more in the Garden of Eden, and never picked the fruit even until this Day. But then there’s the fact that God is a master manipulator (in good ways), so it would’ve been pretty hard to detour from that intendedly set course that God had planned. But I’m also pretty sure he’d already have a plan B for the scenario where they never pick the fruit.

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  • Nathmurr said:
    Lol, true. Although, It was the only interesting thing they could’ve done. They could’ve spent a trillion Years or more in the Garden of Eden, and never picked the fruit even until this Day. But then there’s the fact that God is a master manipulator (in good ways), so it would’ve been pretty hard to detour from that intendedly set course that God had planned. But I’m also pretty sure he’d already have a plan B for the scenario where they never pick the fruit.

    If the scenario that had actually happened was that they never picked the fruit, then the god would know that before even spawning the tree, due to its absolute knowledge of the future. There is no "plan B" for any alternate scenario, because the god already knows the only scenario that can happen.

    In a universe with a being that has absolute knowledge of everything that will happen, free will cannot exist, as an entity already knows for certain what choice will definitively be made, and therefore no unforeseen choices can possibly be made, because if a different choice will have been made, then the omniscient being would have foreseen that choice being made instead of the choice that will actually have been made.

    And now for why I despise time travel in fiction...

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  • ForThePlot said:
    If the scenario that had actually happened was that they never picked the fruit, then the god would know that before even spawning the tree, due to its absolute knowledge of the future. There is no "plan B" for any alternate scenario, because the god already knows the only scenario that can happen.

    In a universe with a being that has absolute knowledge of everything that will happen, free will cannot exist, as an entity already knows for certain what choice will definitively be made, and therefore no unforeseen choices can possibly be made, because if a different choice will have been made, then the omniscient being would have foreseen that choice being made instead of the choice that will actually have been made.

    And now for why I despise time travel in fiction...

    God has came up with plan B’s before, like with Jona and the whale. Also, free will is literally the most important gift anyone has ever been given, so that begs the questions as to how powerful free will is exactly. Perhaps it’s importance denotes that it has the power to elude omniscience.

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  • Nathmurr said:
    Perhaps it’s importance denotes that it has the power to elude omniscience.

    By the definition of omniscience, nothing has the power to elude omniscience, if it exists. If beings with free will are able to act in ways unforeseen to an allegedly omnipotent and omniscient being, this directly implies that the being is in fact neither omniscient nor omnipotent.

    There's also the whole "tell an omnipotent being to make a burrito that's too hot for it to eat" thing...

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  • Nathmurr said:
    God has came up with plan B’s before, like with Jona and the whale. Also, free will is literally the most important gift anyone has ever been given, so that begs the questions as to how powerful free will is exactly. Perhaps it’s importance denotes that it has the power to elude omniscience.

    To be honest you can't really count that as a plan b. Because he knew that would have to eventually happen. It's like a friend leading you through a path with traps, you fall into every trap and they know but never tell you, and every path they lead you through you just get more fucked up. And you the fool trust them until you die.

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  • Nathmurr said:
    God has came up with plan B’s before, like with Jona and the whale. Also, free will is literally the most important gift anyone has ever been given, so that begs the questions as to how powerful free will is exactly. Perhaps it’s importance denotes that it has the power to elude omniscience.

    ForThePlot said:
    By the definition of omniscience, nothing has the power to elude omniscience, if it exists. If beings with free will are able to act in ways unforeseen to an allegedly omnipotent and omniscient being, this directly implies that the being is in fact neither omniscient nor omnipotent.

    There's also the whole "tell an omnipotent being to make a burrito that's too hot for it to eat" thing...

    Untamed~Puppeh said:
    To be honest you can't really count that as a plan b. Because he knew that would have to eventually happen. It's like a friend leading you through a path with traps, you fall into every trap and they know but never tell you, and every path they lead you through you just get more fucked up. And you the fool trust them until you die.

    E621: Where we have deep theological discussions over a heretical piece of bible pornography with snake dicks.

    Admittedly I'm a very agnostic person, and I feel like this omniscience and omnipotence thing kinda is why I just can't get behind. Epicurus' trilemma comes to mind. If God is willing, but unable to prevent evil. He is not omnipotent. If God is able but not willing to prevent evil, he is not omnibenevolent (All Good). If he is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why is there evil?

    Also to put my two cents in despite a complete lack of understanding of how the Bible works, I always thought of human free will to honestly... As silly as it is, to be one of the strongest forces out there. Taking a god as literally omnipotent and omniscient. Humanity has been able to basically write him out of a lot of the literal workings of existence through a simple application of free will and mathematical equations, Darwin wrote God out of the creation of life through The Origin of Species, Lemaître (Ironically, a Catholic Priest) wrote him out of the creation of the universe through the discovery of the Hubble Theory (known today as the Big Bang Theory).

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  • So following a sermon I heard today, I noted Jews had it most straightforward.
    Christianity tells of them eating a fruit because a snake said so (it’s fine, you’ll be godly). Then they Fell.
    My church teaches that the fruit actually represents sex, and that the snake was actually Satan/Lucifer an angel and he and Eve also did spirit sexing. It indeed makes one “godly” but they were too immature for the responsibility.
    Judaism straight up says Satan Uwu’d Eve and then they smashed.

    Therefore this picture is true canon.
    Snake dick(s) was had.

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