Topic: alias bottom_orgasms_first -> sub_orgasms_first

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The name suggests that you'd see dom cum after sub, but most of the posts don't have the dom orgasming at all, so they would be better tagged as submissive_orgasming. Assuming it's a useful tag, anyway. I think it's not, because, from my experience, it's really common to have only sub orgasming, so it's not something that's hard to find.

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"sub" also implies the character being "submissive", which is a term that is heavily misused for penetrated characters that aren't actually in a submissive position (i.e. they're being dominated or restrained in some way). If the tag is intended for penetrated characters cumming first before the penetrating character (if the penetrating character cums at all), then the tag name should reflect that instead of continuing the misinterpretation that penetrated=submissive. And we should also avoid top/bottom in tags relating to penetration since there are times it can be confused for physical positioning, while "penetrating" and "penetrated" can be used more consistently with less ambiguity. Though I'm also with TheGreatWolfgang in thinking we probably don't need a tag like this at all, and existing tags should work well enough.

hi, im the creator of the tag, im new to tagging so im open to changes. renaming it to sub_orgasms_first or penetrated_orgasms_first could work, probably fits a lot more posts easier. the reason i made this tag is because i couldnt find a combination of tags that fit what i was looking for, so i decided to make one myself.

waydence said:
The name suggests that you'd see dom cum after sub, but most of the posts don't have the dom orgasming at all, so they would be better tagged as submissive_orgasming. Assuming it's a useful tag, anyway. I think it's not, because, from my experience, it's really common to have only sub orgasming, so it's not something that's hard to find.

i intended the tag as more of a widely used tag that would fit both art where the dominant character isnt/doesnt orgasm, plus art where they do, just after the sub. plus also including art where, for example, theres a power bottom riding a submissive male and the sub ends up reaching orgasm before the power bottom. (like post #5224995) which im realising now that i forgot to add the tag lol

also yeah this sorta is a bit of a pet project of mine, currently im the only person whos added to it, just working backwards through my favourites list at the moment.

thegreatwolfgang said:
It looks like this is someone's pet project that they solely tag. I don't think it makes for a good tag since it is essentially just cum_while_penetrated -cum_inside.

this doesn't account for posts where the dominant character also orgasms, so it doesnt really fit the same purpose

i do feel like this tag does serve a purpose, but could be improved.

If you have an idea for a new tag you should create a set of posts that would have that tag before actually going through and adding the tag to posts. Adding the tag to posts prematurely can give other users the impression that they should be using it too when it hasn't been decided whether that tag needs to exist yet. And creating a set gives you a clearer idea of how common the thing you want to tag actually is.

efini_fennec said:
this doesn't account for posts where the dominant character also orgasms, so it doesnt really fit the same purpose

If the one penetrating is orgasming (cumming inside the other) it should have the cum_inside tag; if cum_while_penetrated -cum_inside is showing you posts with one character cumming inside another then those posts are mistagged.

eightoflakes said:
If you have an idea for a new tag you should create a set of posts that would have that tag before actually going through and adding the tag to posts. Adding the tag to posts prematurely can give other users the impression that they should be using it too when it hasn't been decided whether that tag needs to exist yet. And creating a set gives you a clearer idea of how common the thing you want to tag actually is.

ah ok, apologies for that. i didnt know such a thing existed.

eightoflakes said:
If the one penetrating is orgasming (cumming inside the other) it should have the cum_inside tag; if cum_while_penetrated -cum_inside is showing you posts with one character cumming inside another then those posts are mistagged.

i see, but again this removes posts where the penetrating also cums inside the penetrated, so it doesnt really fit the purpose of the tag.

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