Topic: BURogenous zones

The bulk update request #12989 is pending approval.

Reason: nonhuman erogenous zones deserve to be tagged lovingly. id also kill for erogenous wings to actually be tagged because its decently common. alas. im including them regardless, and ill probably go looking for untagged ones some time. all of these tags are BRUTALLY undertagged though.

Calling sexually sensitive parts that don't exist in humans "unusual" feels very weird considering we aren't focused on humans, and regardless if something is "unusual" should be considered on the species it exists on as well as other similar species in general rather than some completely unrelated species that isn't really similar
A tail being erogenous on an animal we expect to have a tail doesn't feel unusual in any way

Also a few of these tags serve questionable usefulness overall

this is true, but a group tag for nongenital erogenous zones is undeniably useful, or at least it is to me! in my head i tend to call it nonhuman erogenous zones which is more of the gist id say? (and i really do agree.. but the more niche ones could just be grouped into a generic tag, while the less specific to like one image ones keep their own tag, perhaps?)

The bulk update request #12990 is pending approval.

create alias unusual_erogenous_zone (79) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication erogenous_tail (42) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication erogenous_tail (42) -> sensitive_tail (28)
create implication sensitive_tail (28) -> tail_play (12021)
create implication erogenous_ears (20) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication erogenous_ears (20) -> sensitive_ears (4)
create implication erogenous_feet (2) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication erogenous_feet (2) -> sensitive_feet (3)
create implication erogenous_hooves (3) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication erogenous_hooves (3) -> sensitive_hooves (11)
create implication erogenous_horn (3) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication erogenous_horn (3) -> sensitive_horn (1)
create implication erogenous_wings (0) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)
create implication wire_play (32) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)

Reason: alternative to just include the not incredibly niche tags and an alternative tag name. (hopefully i didnt fumble this bur.. forums frightening)

If you are going to have sensitive_tail implicate tail_play, then sensitive_ears should implicate ear_play, and so on.

As for unusual parts, I do agree with Donovan about calling any zone not usual to humans "unusual"

I would consider genitals in general to be "usual" erogenous zones, and instead say that an "unusual" erogenous zone is one that is not typically associated with erogenous activities directly.

Unfortunantly, this also leads to another issue. This argument about "usual" and "unusual", almost regardless of the form it takes, is a circular argument. After all, usual is last year, last month, last week, yesterday, today, and tomorrow taken together, and outside of internet personas we, most of us, are human behind the screens.
Thus, into the realm of Earth animalia, specifically mammalia, a good portion of the creatures we see on this site, in their real counterparts, use structures much like penises and vulvas.
This makes the most "usual" erogenous zone the one most of us are already familiar with, between the bases of our legs.

My rationalization is that anywhere else, that is clearly sexually gratifying upon gentle pressure being applied, should be considered an "unusual" erogenous zone on most of this site's content.
Yes, even the tits, the mouth, and the anus, would be "unusual" by this metric.

Petting should not be considered for these without it becoming erogenous, or rather, sexual, that meaning causing the projection of sexual fluids from sexual orifices, as without clear sexual gratification from the touch, the zone cannot be considered erogenous.

After all this I have to say that these tags are too dependent on context overall. Many of the tags on e6 are rather clear and simple in themselves. unusual_erogenous_zone is not.
Trying to define anything as "unusual" on this, a furry site, is a troublesome occupation, that even in instances such as the young-human purge; by my opinion, a fairly acceptable endeavor not in motive nor in all methods used, but in goal; or even something as seemingly benign as this, can leave many feeling isolated and frustrated with the way this place is.

In summary and my own conclusion after all my thought:
I do, disapprove of this project.

I do apologize for the wall of text but I needed to somewhat order my thoughts on the topic and try to make them make sense to anyone, and that took me nearly an hour.

As for the new project, nonhuman_erogenous_zone, from my perspective on this it addresses most of the criticisms about the project and more by ridding the site of one "unusual" in favor of "not this specifically"

What even is "erogenous_tail", "erogenous_ears", etc? Tails and ears and such aren't erogenous zones, though even if they were, there's nothing to visually distinguish erogenous body parts from non-erogenous ones. All that would really mean is a character is looking pleasured while some body part being played with, which I don't feel like we need tags for that, especially with every possible body part.

And worse, given TWYS it seems as though it would be ambiguous whether someone is receiving pleasure specifically because of the body part being stimulated, instead of being in a state of heightened sexual pleasure while some body part is being touched. For example, is something like
post #5211028
"erogenous ears"? Or is it simply their ear being played with while they're looking pleasured from having sex? How can you distinguish when a character is receiving sexual pleasure specifically from some non-sexual body part being touched, vs a body part being touched while they're already horny from something else?

We already have x_play tags for body parts being played with in a sexual manner, which can be combined with looking pleasured to handle stuff like this in a less subjective manner, IMO.

Also calling a body part "sensitive" is not the same as playing with it. Sexual pleasure is certainly not required. It just means any sensation will be highly amplified. A sensitive tail, for example, can be the result of it being hurt, and simply touching it or moving it will cause more pain or discomfort.

supurrmsveblackhole said:
create implication wire_play (32) -> nonhuman_erogenous_zone (0)

This also seems confusing.
post #3608229 post #5720258
These don't have anything to do with "non-human erogenous zones". Wires aren't always a body part, and a body part being played with doesn't mean it's necessarily erogenous, e.g.
post #4507990
that's ear_play but there's nothing to suggest it's an "erogenous ear". <body_part>_play tags only indicate that a body part is being handled in a sexual manner, it doesn't indicate anything about who (if anyone) is deriving sexual pleasure from it.

"non-human erogenous zone" also seems exceedingly broad, since most characters here are non-human with some non-human body parts being sexualized. Two anthros or ferals with snouts kissing and looking pleasured could fall under this. Or a character looking pleasured while their digitigrade feet are being touched, or tails, udders, knots, pawpads, animal ears, horns, antlers, etc...