Topic: The artist-poster communication barrier

Posted under General

Someone has posted post #5930848. It is the first post put on e6 that was made by the artist pariparihosiimo, and currently their latest posted piece. I feel that just posting that image is doing the artist a disservice.

I want to post more of this artist's art, but looking at their Twitter's description gives me cause to believe I should ask first before posting their artwork to e6.

I cannot message them, and there is the language barrier.

I could just move forward with the idea of posting everything, but I'd hate to have that come back later as a hit on my record.

Can anyone ask them in Japanese on my, and I guess e6's behalf? What should I do in the meantime? What about other such situations like this where the artist doesn't have an explicit DNP from e6's end, but a kind of implied one? What of the language barrier?

peskeon said:
Someone has posted post #5930848. It is the first post put on e6 that was made by the artist pariparihosiimo, and currently their latest posted piece. I feel that just posting that image is doing the artist a disservice.

I want to post more of this artist's art, but looking at their Twitter's description gives me cause to believe I should ask first before posting their artwork to e6.

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I could just move forward with the idea of posting everything, but I'd hate to have that come back later as a hit on my record.

Regardless of whatever is posted on their profile pages, I feel it is common decency and respect to ask an artist first before posting their artwork on another website.

Many people simply ignore this because it is not a compulsory requirement for uploading here or use the argument that since their work is already here that it should be fine.

The result of this lack of decency often takes the form of takedowns/deletions and maybe the permanent listing of the artist as DNP.

I cannot message them, and there is the language barrier.

Can anyone ask them in Japanese on my, and I guess e6's behalf?

There aren't a lot of (active) Japanese translators on the site.

Your best bet is to simply use Google Translate to explain your limited vocabulary and say whatever needs to be said.
Otherwise, you will need to either wait until somebody who knows Japanese stumbles across this forum, approach the Discord and ask around, or seek out those who make japanese_text translated notes.

What should I do in the meantime? What about other such situations like this where the artist doesn't have an explicit DNP from e6's end, but a kind of implied one? What of the language barrier?

A language barrier should not be an excuse to not ask for permissions. The consequences I have already mentioned.

In my own experience, artists would often be cool about it if you explained in detail what this site is, how they are credited, explain your intent to repost, and apologise if necessary (on behalf of yourself or for the unauthorised repost by others).
I have only had a couple of instances where the artists (rightfully) flipped out and nuked their content from the site after I mentioned about the unauthorised reposts, but it is what it is if you neglect asking in the first place.

Don't even bother and just try removing the post you uploaded. There's a lot of myths about reuploading that aren't even true that's caused a major amount of hostility towards it. No sense trying to talk any sense into them.

mklxiv said:
Don't even bother and just try removing the post you uploaded. There's a lot of myths about reuploading that aren't even true that's caused a major amount of hostility towards it. No sense trying to talk any sense into them.

You can't remove a post you uploaded yourself, the artist would always have to file a takedown directly.

mklxiv said:
Don't even bother and just try removing the post you uploaded. There's a lot of myths about reuploading that aren't even true that's caused a major amount of hostility towards it. No sense trying to talk any sense into them.

You cannot request for posts to be taken down, even if you are the uploader.
The only way to have it removed is if you are the artist or character/copyright holder.

Plus, the post mentioned by OP was not posted by them but someone else.
If the strategy is to ignore whatever the artist says and repost whatever you want, there is a high chance all of that hard work will get nuked through a takedown in an instance.

thegreatwolfgang said:
You cannot request for posts to be taken down, even if you are the uploader.
The only way to have it removed is if you are the artist or character/copyright holder.

Plus, the post mentioned by OP was not posted by them but someone else.
If the strategy is to ignore whatever the artist says and repost whatever you want, there is a high chance all of that hard work will get nuked through a takedown in an instance.

In any event, it's best not to upload any more of the artist's work.

mklxiv said:
In any event, it's best not to upload any more of the artist's work.

Or one could simply ask the artist for permission after the fact.
They will either be cool with it or nuke the only post here (that will not even negatively impact your account).

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