Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions
The bulk update request #12441 is pending approval.
remove alias classes (0) -> glasses (261287)
Reason: Classes and glasses are not meant to be aliased together because both tags have different meanings.
The plural tag should be aliased to the singular tag once the alias is removed.
Updated
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/74045 Looks like it was approved without discussion. Definitely a mistake.
cabo27judy said:
The plural tag should be aliased to the singular tag once the alias is removed.
The unalias seems sound, but I'd argue for disambiguation of class and therefore classes. "Class" is supposed to refer to a school class/classroom type of setting, but there are a lot of posts in the class tag that have nothing to do with a classroom or a class of students. Many class tags may be claws mistags, and classy and classic_* are words that are also used in the class tag.
If you take a moment to look at the posts "classes" was added to, you'll see the vast majority is simply a misspelling of glasses.
Not people trying to tag a class or multiple classes.
So, unaliasing this, and then alias it to class. Wouldn't fix the problem.
https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Btags_added%5D=classes
I did some follow-up research:
62 times has "classes" been added to images.
Only post #3762046 didn't have any glasses in it.
The posts I could find in a classroom setting was post #626356, post #3912705 and post #3912721 but those also contain at least one person wearing glasses, so those might have been glasses typos as well.
I found no post related to DnD classes or something like that.
So, while I understand the reasoning behind suggesting this unalias, given that the two words have different meanings, it would actually make the initial mistagging problem worse if it were aliased to class.
As a visual aid, here are some of the posts that were tagged with "classes":
post #55661 post #104897 post #251381 post #293504 post #341125 post #594931 post #607900 post #613525 post #617055 post #764813 post #837723 post #1106425 post #1205672 post #1257866 post #1484036 post #1573561 post #1615130 post #1693217 post #1745722 post #1788920 post #1875423 post #1896091 post #1899033 post #2008500 post #2069631
and more... (Thumb limit is 25)
While a strange alias, the evidence presented by slyroon indicates the alias is doing way more good than harm.
I think this is a special exception where keeping it as is actually better.
kyiiel said:
While a strange alias, the evidence presented by slyroon indicates the alias is doing way more good than harm.I think this is a special exception where keeping it as is actually better.
I think part of the problem is that it's eating the autocomplete for class- which is not ideal. although that's also getting messed up by the even larger classical_mythology alias.
dba_afish said:
I think part of the problem is that it's eating the autocomplete for class- which is not ideal.
Neither is classical_mythology -> mythology. Honestly hoping for a good autocomplete for 'class' isn't really doable.
Edit: got edit sniped lol. But yeah I agree it's not perfect.
dfn-451 said:
I think part of the problem is that it's eating the autocomplete for class- which is not ideal. although that's also getting messed up by the even larger classical_mythology alias.
I get that it's kinda non-aesthetic if you use class-.
However,if you wanna clear up class-, I'd argue unaliasing The tag alias #20540 classical_mythology -> mythology has been approved. and changing the category to invalid, is a better option as only two post was tagged classical_mythology before the alias happened.
Could also make a similar case for The tag alias #79487 classical_hippogriff -> hippogriff has been approved. as only one person used the tag classical_hippogriff
But then again what would that really accomplish?
Currently the auto complete for class- looks like this:
classical_mythology -> mythology
classes -> glasses
classroom
classical_hippogriff -> hippogriff
classic_sonic_(universe)
classy
classic_chica_(fnaf)
classical_unicorn
classic_sonic
classic_amy_rose
If we removed the "clutter" aliases, it would make room for these tags in the autocomplete:
classic_lolita
classic_tails
classical_architecture
I'm not sure how critical it is to have these show, it's very subjective but I don't think these tags are really that important.
But also this just obfuscate the original point. cabo27judy wanted the unalias because classes and glasses have two different meanings, which is correct.
But they didn't have the context as to why this alias exists. Unfortunately you can't add the reason when doing and alias that surpasses the forum creation. But I don't think I need to repeat what I already said earlier about the validity of this alias, and why it shouldn't be removed.
I get that it looks weird, and it's understandable why people like CrocoGator thought it was a mistake, and that properly also goes for a good chunk of the intial upvotes for this unalias, as from the face value this unalias request, it looks pretty solid.
Also, Moonlit-Comet and TheGreatWolfgang argument as to why class should be disambiguationated/invalidated, is also valid, but I think that merit its own forum topic separate from this discussion.
Updated
Looking at the tag history and the examples provided by slyroon, I believe the alias might be worth keeping in place. Unlike an implication, an alias doesn't need to always be perfect. I don't think the aliases affect the autocomplete too much, so keeping it in place is worth it.
