Topic: Question about standardizing Cum Digestion/Cum Vore tags

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

This is something that's been bugging me for a while now, so I wanted to make a post about it. For context, I'm a vorarephile of nearly 12 years, and I help run the r/CockVore and r/Vore communities on Reddit.

Anyway, right now, cum_vore is currently the primary tag used on E621 to describe cum digestion, referring to the act of a prey being turned into cum following a vore interaction, usually cock vore or unbirth. Cum_Digestion is aliased to Cum_Vore.

I would argue that arrangement should be the other way around. Cum Digestion should be the primary tag, and Cum_Vore should be aliased to it.

I say this because Cum Digestion is the much more widely used term on other websites, namely Aryion/Eka's Portal (the largest and oldest actively used vore forum on the internet, for those unaware). For reference, Aryion has approximately 9,000 submissions that have been tagged with "Cum Digestion," with the oldest being nearly 20 years old: https://aryion.com/g4/view/81983

Source: https://aryion.com/g4/tags.php?tag=Cum_Digestion

By comparison, "Cum Vore" has 25 results on Aryion: https://aryion.com/g4/tags.php?tag=cum+vore

The point being, nobody on Aryion (or the rest of the internet, anecdotally) uses the Cum Vore tag. E621 is the only website I know of that makes frequent use of it. Everyone else calls it Cum Digestion.

With this in mind, it seems silly to me E621's current tagging structure prioritizes the tag with 25 results on Aryion over the tag with 9,000 results. I feel that by using different terms to describe the same things, it could create confusion for people coming to E621 from Aryion and trying to find Cum Digestion, which is the term Aryion has taught them to look for.

Anyway, this leads me to my question. I'm unfamiliar with tag management on E621. How would I go about requesting the update of these two tags? Can I just submit a BUR updating Cum_Vore to Cum_Digestion, or will that cause problems because Cum_Digestion is already implemented as a tag that's aliased to Cum_Vore?

Guidance from more knowledgeable parties would be appreciated.

Thank you for coming to my incredibly pedantic TED talk

foxy_carter said:
Anyway, this leads me to my question. I'm unfamiliar with tag management on E621. How would I go about requesting the update of these two tags? Can I just submit a BUR updating Cum_Vore to Cum_Digestion, or will that cause problems because Cum_Digestion is already implemented as a tag that's aliased to Cum_Vore?

Guidance from more knowledgeable parties would be appreciated.

Thank you for coming to my incredibly pedantic TED talk

Not going to comment on whether this is a good change or not since I don't use either tags at all, but the proper procedure to request such a change is as follows:

  • 1) Request a BUR to have cum_digestion unaliased from cum_vore, with the command unalias cum_digestion -> cum_vore.
  • 2) Wait for it to be approved, pending discussion from the community of course.
  • 3) Once it gets approved, request a second BUR on the same thread to have cum_vore be aliased to cum_digestion, with the command alias cum_vore -> cum_digestion.

The bulk update request #12381 is pending approval.

remove alias cum_digestion (0) -> cum_vore (1750)
remove implication cum_vore (1750) -> cum (802544)
remove implication cum_vore (1750) -> digestion (19492)
remove implication cum_vore (1750) -> vore (91430)

Primary follow up:

alias cum_vore -> cum_digestion
imply cum_digestion -> cum
imply cum_digestion -> vore

Secondary follow up that should be voted on:

imply cum_digestion -> digestion

As described by Foxy Carter. I agree with them, cum vore is quite a weird name for it that I hardly ever see anywhere but here. It's not clear what it means without going to the wiki.
Also, should it really be a subtag under digestion? I don't personally think it fits, but that's the current situation. The implication didn't exactly have much discussion (topic #39882).

topic #46357 includes some discussion and would need to be rejected
topic #11483 is the original source of the alias

Updated

Thank you for submitting the BUR, @SCTH. I appreciate it.

scth said:
Also, should it really be a subtag under digestion? I don't personally think it fits, but that's the current situation. The implication didn't exactly have much discussion (topic #39882).

The way I see it, Cum Digestion is used to specifically differentiate an outcome that differs from traditional digestion. Traditional digestion focuses on the gain of nutrition, while Cum Digestion usually offers no nutritional benefit since the prey is ejected once they've been fully melted down (unless the pred ejaculates into their own stomach, in which case it would be Cum Digestion into Traditional Digestion or perhaps Drinking_Cum, but that's besides the point).

Anyway, I realize that "digestion" is probably not the best word to describe this process. Cum Transformation is probably a more accurate description of what's literally happening in these scenes. With that said, as evidenced by the links I provided in my post, Cum Digestion has become the most widely adopted term to describe this concept and it has a history going back nearly 20 years. And seeing as the site that coined the term doesn't have bulk tag editing capabilities like E621 does, unless someone wants to go through 9,000 posts on Aryion and manually update the tag from Cum Digestion to Cum Transformation, I think we're stuck with it.

It's kinda like, well, a lot of words in the English language at this point, like "Literally" having contradictory definitions in Merriam Webster because people keep using literally, well, metaphorically. It doesn't make sense if you think about it too hard, but since when has language ever been logical.

Cum Digestion does have the added benefit of explicitly denoting a vore interaction, whereas Cum Transformation can happen outside of a vore context: post #2642408

Now, whether or not Cum Digestion should be a subtag under Digestion, I don't know. My intuition says "probably not," but that's based more on feel than anything. I could be convinced either way, I'm just trying to provide some more context so others can weigh in.

Original page: https://e621.net/forum_topics/59889