Topic: Sex toy fellatio BUR

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create implication sex_toy_fellatio (1285) -> oral (345246)

Does it count as oral?
Can it count as oral masturbation?
Can it count as masturbation?

snpthecat said:
The bulk update request #12117 is pending approval.

create implication sex_toy_fellatio (1285) -> oral (345246)

Does it count as oral?

While the oral wiki does not specify it, the oral_penetration wiki indirectly says that oral does includes sex toys with how the implications are chained (e.g., sex_toy_in_mouth).

Though I'm not sure if implying sex_toy_fellatio to sex_toy_in_mouth would be a better idea.

Can it count as oral masturbation?
Can it count as masturbation?

If the character is solo and gets off with something in their mouth, I don't see why not.
However, I would not classify all forms of sex_toy_fellatio to be masturbatory in nature.

snpthecat said:
Does it count as oral?
Can it count as oral masturbation?
Can it count as masturbation?

The description of the oral tag say: A character stimulating genitals using their mouth (including the anus).
Description of oral masturbation: Stimulation of oneself using the mouth.
And the description of masturbation: All cases where a character is sexually stimulating themselves (penis, balls, anus, pussy, urethra, or cloaca).

Also, some picture (here a picture that is used in the sex toy fellatio description) we can see that the character that make the sex toy fellatio is not doing any sens of masturbation by doing this act.
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So for me these implications can sometime make sens (even if I'm not sure about that) but have too many exceptions to be used as implications.

EDIT: NVM I just read sex toy fellatio page and it's say: A form of oral[...]
So the oral make sens, I'm not sure for the masturbation tag tho.

thegreatwolfgang said:
If the character is solo and gets off with something in their mouth, I don't see why not.
However, I would not classify all forms of sex_toy_fellatio to be masturbatory in nature.

I don't think masturbation is dependent on a character actually getting off or being aroused by something, only whether its stimulating the appropriate parts. To me, oral_masturbation means masturbation with the mouth, not masturbation of the mouth, and similar for tail_masturbation. The mouth and tail aren't considered sexual organs, so aren't themselves being masturbated, but are being used to masturbate. In this instance, I'd rather say sex_toy_fellatio isn't ever masturbation on its own and would be some kind of oral_play or mouth_play, similar to playing with nipples or ears for sexual gratification. A character that actually cums from oral play alone would probably count as spontaneous_ejaculation IMO, ejaculating without direct sexual contact (unlike hands-free which is ejaculating without direct penile contact; stimulation of the anus, balls, and vagina (for (male)herms) are still allowed for hands-free, while spontaneous_ejaculation is without them).

thegreatwolfgang said:
While the oral wiki does not specify it, the oral_penetration wiki indirectly says that oral does includes sex toys with how the implications are chained (e.g., sex_toy_in_mouth).

Though I'm not sure if implying sex_toy_fellatio to sex_toy_in_mouth would be a better idea.
If the character is solo and gets off with something in their mouth, I don't see why not.
However, I would not classify all forms of sex_toy_fellatio to be masturbatory in nature.

Hmm, seems the general consensus is that sex_toy_fellatio shouldn't imply masturbation in any form (whether or not it can be is a different story)

One reason you can't really imply sex toy fellatio to sex_toy_in_mouth is because fellatio can be performed without oral penetration (which is why it doesn't imply it, or penis in mouth (wait this doesn't have oral penetration implied, should it?)) which sex toy in mouth implies

It seems nobody wants *_in_mouth to imply oral_penetration (topic #57329) so that paragraph is irrelevant

The bulk update request #12118 is pending approval.

remove implication sex_toy_in_mouth (1598) -> oral_penetration (116694)

Reason: This should be accepted based on how topic #57329 wasn't, right?

Though this leads me to ask, can pussyjob ever be penis_in_vagina? If they're entirely separate, then the penile and vaginal penetration implications on penis in vagina should be fine, but otherwise you might have to rethink them.