The tag alias #79407 oral_rape -> forced_oral has been rejected.
Reason: These have the same meaning.
EDIT: The tag alias oral_rape -> forced_oral (forum #465534) has been rejected by @Beholding.
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Topic: oral_rape -> forced_oral
Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions
-1 Because you're going to be merging tags with the implications of rape and forced.
Granted it was made pretty long ago, so oral_rape and forced_oral should probably be merged, but remove the rape implication from it first.
Though it brings up the question of whether forced sexual activity is merely forced, or if we should make them imply rape.
Watsit seems against this implication, since
watsit said:
oral doesn't imply sex, it also applies to oral_masturbation, so it seems weird that forced_oral would imply rape.
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snpthecat said:
-1 Because you're going to be merging tags with the implications of rape and forced.
I'm not clear why that's an issue? rape already implies forced.
I don't see how forced_oral wouldn't involve sex. A forced scenario necessarily requires another participant. The only edge case I can think of would be forced autofellatio/autocunnilingus, but I would still consider that rape.
beholding said:
I'm not clear why that's an issue? rape already implies forced.I don't see how forced_oral wouldn't involve sex. A forced scenario necessarily requires another participant. The only edge case I can think of would be forced autofellatio/autocunnilingus, but I would still consider that rape.
Forced_oral can be forced_masturbation, and a (non living) machine can perform forced masturbation on a character
snpthecat said:
Forced_oral can be forced_masturbation, and a (non living) machine can perform forced masturbation on a character
I'm gonna need to see an example of what you mean, because that sounds very convoluted.
Also, do other sex acts inflicted by a nonliving machine count as rape, currently?
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beholding said:
I'm gonna need to see an example of what you mean, because that sounds very convoluted.
post #3753272
This is forced autofellatio, which is forced oral*, and it doesn't involve sex
- It doesn't imply it, directly or indirectly, but autofellatio is oral masturbation so forced autofellatio should be forced oral (masturbation)
wait does forced_autofellatio count as both forced oral and reverse forced oral
snpthecat said:
post #3753272
This is forced autofellatio, which is forced oral*, and it doesn't involve sex
- It doesn't imply it, directly or indirectly, but autofellatio is oral masturbation so forced autofellatio should be forced oral (masturbation)
wait does forced_autofellatio count as both forced oral and reverse forced oral
Alright, fair enough. There's no other participant and it's unclear how the character got in that situation, so not rape. Though I do feel like this revives the old debate of if we should separate forced into "physically forced" and "unwilling".
The tag alias oral_rape -> forced_oral (forum #465534) has been rejected by @Beholding.
The bulk update request #12116 is pending approval.
remove implication oral_rape (474) -> rape (55550)
mass update oral_rape -> forced_oral
Reason: Mass update rather than alias to avoid this debate re-appearing in the future.
beholding said:
Alright, fair enough. There's no other participant and it's unclear how the character got in that situation, so not rape. Though I do feel like this revives the old debate of if we should separate forced into "physically forced" and "unwilling".
forced means unwilling, i'm pretty sure. Amount of physical force is irrelevant, and there's no tag for it.
snpthecat said:
forced means unwilling, i'm pretty sure. Amount of physical force is irrelevant, and there's no tag for it.
Currently it does, yes, but there's been debates on if it should be separated, since it currently encompasses both scenarios. In your example image, for instance, it's not clear if the character is unwilling, and in fact they appear happy due to the heart eyes; the scenario is only "forced" in the sense that they can't get out of it.