Topic: toy_in_x to sex_toy_in_x

The bulk update request #12009 is pending approval.

create alias toy_insertion (38) -> sex_toy_insertion (57243)
create alias toy_in_pussy (4) -> sex_toy_in_vagina (14782) # has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur
create alias toy_in_mouth (11) -> sex_toy_in_mouth (1602)
create alias toy_in_ass (75) -> sex_toy_in_ass (38735)
create alias toy_in_slit (3) -> sex_toy_in_slit (156)

Reason: All of the listed toy_in_x tags are irregular and should be aliased to the correct sex_toy_in_x tags.

Fair enough. Unless you want to stick your favorite action figure in your butt xd

Please remove the alias with blocking transitive relationships. For future reference, this alias is:

alias toy_in_pussy -> sex_toy_in_vagina

Otherwise, this BUR looks good. Tagging a non-sextoy toy in an orifice would be needlessly specific, and the majority of cases seem to be for sex toys.

topic #58978 is the BTR, which is also theirs (and objectively needs to be rejected)

I rejected my previous request for toy_in_pussy -> sex_toy_in_vagina, so if I'm understanding everything correctly, this one should be able to go through now.

post #5190806

not all toys are sex toys :/

including objects used as toys but certainly arnt sex toys..

post #5581569 post #4806765

ryu_deacon said:
post #5190806

not all toys are sex toys :/

I would say that's a completely different type of toy. As much as that's not a sex toy, a sex toy isn't that kind of toy, either. Since the majority of uses of these tags refer to sex toys, it's redundant, and keeping it to refer to non-sex toys would likely require regular cleaning due to people continuing to use it to refer to sex toys.

watsit said:
...As much as that's not a sex toy, a sex toy isn't that kind of toy, either. Since the majority of uses of these tags refer to sex toys...

the tags do not actually refer to anything beyond what the terms the tags are constructed from they are not specific to sex toys, and there have certainly been multiple instances were these tags are used for toys or actions that are not related to sex toys. I imagine given the focus of this website normal toys are undertagged to begin with..

Is every dog with a toy Frisbee in their mouth a sexual act? This in certainly a common enough stereotypical act that is simply undertagged, we do have frisbee_in_mouth , it is no stretch to also addon toy_in_mouth for that is what it is..

we also have ball_in_mouth and even ball_in_ass

balls are also toys and may be used in sexual and non sexual manners, are all tennis balls sex toys?

ryu_deacon said:
the tags do not actually refer to anything beyond what the terms the tags are constructed from they are not specific to sex toys, and there have certainly been multiple instances were these tags are used for toys or actions that are not related to sex toys.

The problem is, "toys" as in normal non-sexual play things and "toys" as in sex/masturbation aides are two distinct things that shouldn't be under one tag. And most instances of people using toy_in_* aren't referring to play things, but rather sex/masturbation aides, so if not aliased to the latter, should be disambiguated (though disambiguation will mean every use of the tags will need to be fixed, while aliasing to sex_toy_in_* will only need a few uses occasionally fixed).

watsit said:
The problem is, "toys" as in normal non-sexual play things and "toys" as in sex/masturbation aides are two distinct things that shouldn't be under one tag.

yet you are supporting a alias that does just that:? aliasing toy and sex_toy tags.

And most instances of people using toy_in_* aren't referring to play things, but rather sex/masturbation aides, so if not aliased to the latter, should be disambiguated (though disambiguation will mean every use of the tags will need to be fixed, while aliasing to sex_toy_in_* will only need a few uses occasionally fixed).

Just a reminder that 'most' is not all, and this is again skewed by the fact that most people simply dont go to the effort of tagging non-sexual things and specifics like were something might be or how a character might be looking or holding their arms for example.

Disambiguation would certainly be the best outcome here. Im just pointing out that this OPs request literally is like aliasing oranges and apples, how much the supposed majority uses these tags that never had wikis to them is kinda irrelevant.

I doubt the problem would get as big, but lets not repeat the situation for toys that befell the pointy ears tags for years topic #45552

On e621, when I see the word "toy," my reading of it is "sex toy." Looking at the posts that have been tagged with toy_in_ass, I see that the vast majority of them depict sex toys (although a handful do not—there's also a soccer ball and a model train). So, at the least, the bulk of these should be retagged to sex_toy_in_ass.

I don't think there's a practical need for a tag that means "toy (of any kind) in ass"; there just aren't very many posts that depict non-sex toys in the ass, and for those that do, the object_in_ass tag seems sufficient. By contrast, it seems clear that aliasing toy_in_ass to sex_toy_in_ass would do more good than bad.

Yes, the literal meaning of "toy" is different from the literal meaning of "sex toy," but I think these practical considerations are more important than clinging strictly to literal meanings.