Topic: [BUR] Gun Fixes

The bulk update request #11633 is pending approval.

Reason: Various gun fixes,

some ideas for alias but im not sure how people would react would be alias heavy_machine_gun to machine_gun and light_machine_gun to machine_gun, (that why I did not imply those to machine guns)
will have a 2nd bur for aliases just so I don't break something

(PLEASE PLEASE MAKE SURE I IMPLIED RIGHT I THINK I DID BUT IM NEW TO THIS)

dumb question, would implicate ak_platform -> kalashnikov or implicate kalashnikov -> ak_platform, be correct sorry my brain is very tired now

I think ak_platform should maybe be aliased to kalashnikov considering both wikis more or less say the same thing

nin10dope said:
I think ak_platform should maybe be aliased to kalashnikov considering both wikis more or less say the same thing

ok so kalashnikov produces both the PKM and the Ak_platform but a pkm is not an ak_platform

Kalashnikov is the brand ak_platform is a subset of products
Kalashnikov also produces non ak_platforms

The bulk update request #11635 is pending approval.

create implication machine_gun (1526) -> long_gun (1)
create implication sniper_rifle (1814) -> long_gun (1)
create implication rifle (8298) -> long_gun (1)
create implication assault_rifle (1950) -> long_gun (1)
create implication shotgun (2410) -> long_gun (1)
create implication musket (188) -> long_gun (1)
create implication arquebus (25) -> long_gun (1)
create implication battle_rifle (29) -> long_gun (1)
create implication ak_platform (558) -> long_gun (1)
create implication ar_platform (152) -> long_gun (1)

Reason: By properly utilizing the long_gun tag, it will allow the easier search for longer barreled guns without having to do gun -handgun -submachine -grenade_launcher, it will also help me imply ak_platform correctly

p.s please don't bash my skull in mods

funkwolfie said:
ok so kalashnikov produces both the PKM and the Ak_platform but a pkm is not an ak_platform

Kalashnikov is the brand ak_platform is a subset of products
Kalashnikov also produces non ak_platforms

That's a good point.
An implication is definitely the least that should be done then. Ak platform -> Kalash yadayada cuz that's the name of the inventor

nin10dope said:
That's a good point.
An implication is definitely the least that should be done then. Ak platform -> Kalash yadayada cuz that's the name of the inventor

so make another tag with the creator's name? or did you mean the brand?

funkwolfie said:
so make another tag with the creator's name? or did you mean the brand?

The brand, like you suggested in your 'dumb question'
I was just sharing that the brand name is the inventors last name

sould anything be implied to handcanon? currently, outside of a single fictional weapon, it's entirely loose.

dba_afish said:
should anything be implied to handcanon? currently, outside of a single fictional weapon, it's entirely loose.

Today I learned that unless we're talking about the 13th century Chinese literal hand_cannon (no idea why someone aliased it incorrectly to one word), hand cannon today (like in Destiny which is where most people learned that word for the first time) is just slang for high-caliber handguns; ranging from anything chambered in magnum rounds like .357 revolvers up to rifle sized rounds and the classic D.Eagle

So while the hand_cannon_(Destiny) is a fair tag to have, the other one should probably be destroyed

dba_afish said:
sould anything be implied to handcanon? currently, outside of a single fictional weapon, it's entirely loose.

removed the implication request for it

Rather than having ar-15 imply rifle directly, should it imply ar_platform to match the ak_platform tag? Since there are a lot of AR-platform weapons as well, m16, m4, etc.

Also, pretty sure create implication ar-10 (10) -> sniper_rifle (1664) is wrong. That's a battle rifle, not a sniper rifle.

oh true, didnt realize there was an ar platform tag

and mb

The bulk update request #11647 is pending approval.

remove alias hand_cannon (0) -> handcannon (46)
remove implication hand_cannon_(destiny) (19) -> handcannon (46)
create alias hand_cannons (0) -> handgun (12014)

Reason: Hand cannon is a slang term for everything except for the 13th century Chinese firearm. Handcannon is plain wrong, no idea where that came from.
Hand cannon in the Destiny games are fine, since that's the term for the weapon archetype. It also has other valid implications.

Part 2

alias handcannon -> handgun
alias hand_cannon -> handgun