Topic: Grouping neuropterans together

The bulk update request #11227 is active.

create alias neuroptera (0) -> neuropteran (60)
create implication neuropteran (60) -> insect (54015)
remove implication antlion (16) -> insect (54015)
remove implication lacewing (1) -> insect (54015)
remove implication mantidfly (8) -> insect (54015)
create implication antlion (16) -> neuropteran (60)
create implication lacewing (1) -> neuropteran (60)
create implication mantidfly (8) -> neuropteran (60)
create implication owlfly (3) -> neuropteran (60)
create implication spoonwing (44) -> neuropteran (60)
create alias spoon-winged_lacewing (0) -> spoonwing (44)
create alias threadwing_antlion (3) -> spoonwing (44)

Reason: I've been looking at insect posts lately and noticed that there's a decent variety of neuropteran posts but they're not at all grouped together

Something to note here is the order Neuroptera is sometimes called "net-winged insects", apparently. I genuinely learned about that today, and the term doesn't seem to be particularly commonly used (sources I typically use completely overlook it, I only learned the term exists because of Wikipedia) so I am unsure whether it's the better choice for the tag name or not. I am willing to change it if it's deemed "net-winged insect" sounds better than "neuropteran", though I am more in favor of the latter.

Spoonwings and Threadwings are also sometimes called Spoonwinged/Threadwinged Antlions/Lacewings. This is pretty misleading, since they're neither antlions nor lacewings.

EDIT: The bulk update request #11227 (forum #450876) has been approved by @spe.

create implication threadwing (0) -> neuropteran (1)
Are threadwings actually a distinct creature? All I can find when looking that up are spoonwings.

spe said:
create implication threadwing (0) -> neuropteran (1)
Are threadwings actually a distinct creature? All I can find when looking that up are spoonwings.

I had to double check my sources, and it seems that entire group is in a very weird spot.

I typically look at whatever taxonomy iNaturalist uses. This, 9/10 times, is the same as the Encyclopedia of Life. This is NOT the case with Neuropterans, apparently.

Lacewings Digital Library seems to be the primary source iNat uses for that, and they recognize spoonwings and threadwings as separate subfamilies under the family Nemopteridae. Having said that, this seems to be the only actual source that does so. Encyclopedia of Life does not. Wikipedia does not recognize the term at all. I think it's safe to include them under the same umbrella.

TLDR: They are a distinct creature technically, but very few sources recognize this and you wouldn't be able to tell from TWYS. I edited the BUR to alias them together.

You don't need to have the critter->insect implications if neutopteran already implies insect.

regsmutt said:
You don't need to have the critter->insect implications if neutopteran already implies insect.

Yes? There aren't any in the BUR. The BUR removes those implications for those that already have them but won't need them.

The bulk update request #11227 (forum #450876) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #12031 is pending approval.

create implication lemon_antlion (1) -> antlion (16)
create implication owly_sulphur (1) -> owlfly (3)
create implication nemoptera_bipennis (1) -> spoonwing (44)

Reason: Three specific species I found that have not been tagged before

Nemoptera bipennis seems to have a common name in the form of 'Two-winged Spoonwing', but as far as I can find iNaturalist is the only source that uses said name. Wikipedia doesn't recognize it, so I don't know if it's valid or not.