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The bulk update request #10792 is pending approval.
create implication aurebesh_text (73) -> fictional_language (478)
create implication saurian_text (0) -> fictional_language (478)
create implication trunic_text (30) -> fictional_language (478)
Reason: All three of these kind of strain the definition of a "language" since they're created using cipher substitution, but Aurebesh is already listed in the wiki entry despite not having an implication in place.
...Huh. Do we seriously not have any posts tagged with "saurian_text"? 16,000 Krystal posts and none where she's talking in her own language? I don't buy it.
Could someone clarify what counts as a "fictional language" here? Spoilers for Tunic:
The game will never tell you this, but Trunic is secretly English written phonetically in a complicated fictional writing system. It doesn't have it's own grammar or vocab or anything.
Should (and currently use) use contructed_script instead, alongside character_cipher if applicable.
errorist said:
...Huh. Do we seriously not have any posts tagged with "saurian_text"? 16,000 Krystal posts and none where she's talking in her own language? I don't buy it.
dino_text_(star_fox) is the current active tag for this. "saurian" isn't an official name, and it's also the name of a language in Warhammer.
The bulk update request #10793 is pending approval.
remove implication trunic_text (30) -> character_cipher (617)
Reason: Which reminds me, Trunic is not a character cipher.
anicebee said:
Reason: Which reminds me, Trunic is not a character cipher.
Isn't it? From the description CrocoGator gave, it sounds like one (it changes out how the characters look, but it's ultimately just English written phonetically without any of its own grammar or vocabulary; English-written-phonetically also isn't a unique concept).
watsit said:
Isn't it? From the description CrocoGator gave, it sounds like one (it changes out how the characters look, but it's ultimately just English written phonetically without any of its own grammar or vocabulary; English-written-phonetically also isn't a unique concept).
I guess it's a character chipher of the IPA, kinda, then. unless it's more like english as a syllabary.
either way that's not really the way we generally use the term "character chipher".
dba_afish said:
I guess it's a character chipher of the IPA, kinda, then. unless it's more like english as a syllabary.either way that's not really the way we generally use the term "character chipher".
It is still the actual definition of cipher. Not all ciphers are one letter to one letter.
That said, maybe "cipher text" or "cipher language" would be more appropriate?
lendrimujina said:
That said, maybe "cipher text" or "cipher language" would be more appropriate?
cipher_language sounds like it'd apply to the language as a whole, including its phonetics. dino_text_(star_fox) would fit this, since it's basically just letters swapped around (A->U, B->R, etc) and spoken using the new letters, but is otherwise plain English when the letters are swapped back (e.g. "A cabo kxuk" would be pronounced as it appears, but simply means "I like that"). In contrast, cipher_text sounds like something that applies only to text, irrespective of pronunciation (e.g. this book cover, which is plain English spelling, sentence structure, pronunciation, and all that, just using a different character set as if someone swapped the font).
Not that pronunciation is terribly relevant to this site, as we deal mostly with static images, but animations with spoken audio aren't out of the question.
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