Some sites are bug infested messes, others have terrible communities. Some places have inconsistent rules while others have overly sensitive mods playing God Emperor.

Im curius which sites artists and watchers would consider the worst place to have your art and what are your or someone you know's worst experience.

Right now theres only 2 sites which i have problems with Patreon with their vague rules that can ban you at any second and Furaffinity that tries to please their advertisers even if it means contantly driving away their artists and users.

i only upload to bluesky, e621, and inkbunny when it comes to my drawings. when it comes to comics, i also post to reddit (if it doesnt break TOS) and my own personal website.

most art websites, especially when it comes to porn art gallery sites (FA, weasyl, even inkbunny), are totally dead in terms of userbase and so its basically a waste of time posting there unless you personally care about the website's continued existence.

i think the absolute worst website is rule34. the functionality is total ass, the tagging system is far too lenient, the posts are almost all created by bots scraping other, better databases, and the userbase is extremely toxic.

the only reason it still has people using it imo is the name recognition from the meme.

every once and a while i go there to read the comments on my artwork thats been uploaded by some bot, and every time im like, someone needs to tell these people about superior database e621

I guess this goes without saying these days, but deviantart is ass.

The biggest problems off the top of my head: AI bullshit, non-existent moderation, copious art thieves, shit UI.
Its value was questionable even before AI and eclipse but I have no idea how that site is still around now.

popoto said:
I guess this goes without saying these days, but deviantart is ass.

The biggest problems off the top of my head: AI bullshit, non-existent moderation, copious art thieves, shit UI.
Its value was questionable even before AI and eclipse but I have no idea how that site is still around now.

I dont really care about AI but for real that site is such a downhill mess, every time i see an artist linking to it i shudder that i have to tolerate the atrocious looks of that place.

Some horrible options would be ;
Facebook for obvious reasons ( fun place to post it though if you can get away with it) ;
Imgur since nobody will see your art nor be able to find it if looking for it ;
Some type of Message board for a school, government or, or religious place (It'll ruin your life) ;
4chan or it's variant, it'll be buried and you'll get the opposite of credit for posting it there ;
Discord...

& an honorable mention to printing your art IRL and posting it at various places outside such as a random tree in the woods, or by the fruit in the local grocery store, and other peculiar public places or even a more private place like in your apartments staircase. The types of costs and exposure with such an endeavor mostly likely isn't worth it.

sandile_zymphia said:
& an honorable mention to printing your art IRL and posting it at various places outside such as a random tree in the woods, or by the fruit in the local grocery store, and other peculiar public places or even a more private place like in your apartments staircase. The types of costs and exposure with such an endeavor mostly likely isn't worth it.

Why would anyone do that?!

Sankaku Complex sucks.
It feels like a platform trying to suck as much money out of its users as possible, and has almost no moderation. Tags are mostly AI generated since that became possible. It's full of low quality AI slop and stolen art. The UI is terrible as well.
Even with an adblocker it's full of their own ads and popups, only show full sized images if you make an account, and they make it hard to download files any way but by logging in and visiting individual posts manually.

tester29 said:
Why would anyone do that?!

There's no such thing as bad publicity!

Deviantart is the peak of bad places to post: obtuse moderation, awful UI, a dying community, and an unending tsunami of AI slop. Not to mention the large contingent of minors on the site. DA's corporate decisions have tanked the site that used to be THE place for artists online.

Controversial take, but... Twitter/X - good for attention (until you're buried by the algorithm), bad for pretty much everything else. Finding older art by an artist is a chore, the site is poorly laid out, the search functions are pathetic, and the algorithm constantly hides posts from, artists because they aren't "buzz worthy" enough. That's not even getting into the culture of the site or its ownership.

Furaffinity isn't even close to being the worst, but if we're complaining about art sites... why not? I like gallery sites more than timeline based sites for art, I like the easy-on-the-eyes, simple look of the site... but I really hate that tagging standards on the site are near non-existent, and I hate that there's no way to organise or search through your favourites, or search through galleries. I understand the moderation is pretty obtuse and uneven there too, but I've never had that effect my experience with the site.

maplebytes said:
but I really hate that tagging standards on the site are near non-existant

That pretty much applies to all commonly used art sites that aren't boorus.

anicebee said:
That pretty much applies to all commonly used art sites that aren't boorus.

and most boorus as well.

Really, as an artist, you're best course of action is to post to multiple sites. One of the big mistakes I see is people use Twitter exclusively to post their art. Twitter has value, but it should never be your soul platform. Branching out ensures that you get as many eyes as you can and also provides a level of security should something happen to one of those sites/accounts.

So simply put, the worst place to post your art is to a single platform and not multiple.

i dont use twitter but i do use bluesky and even though i post my art there i only use it because i want to be able to socialise with people who look at my stuff.

its difficult for people to find older posts you've made so its unlikely unless someone scrolls thru your entire page that anyone will see your posts after 24 hours of them being up

Facebook with your family tagged.

Print out two copies of it. Post one copy on the building at 300 Toni Stone Crossing, San Fransisco, California, and the other copy on the building at 2000 Purchase Street, Purchase, New York.

Project it on the side of a mormon temple.

iFunny

thehuskyk9 said:
iFunny

#1 answer

Hmm, it would probably be quicker to just list every damn image site out there, and then say pros/cons in some table, in the long run. Maybe I'll make a spreadsheet file for it sometime.
AGN.PH: Only Pokemon (no Digimon please, oddly, human-focused allowed if in the franchise)
Aryion: More fanfics it seems, but does have images.
ATF: Because e621 takedown, kek.
Bluesky: Hard to link to as source, but seems cool. Hasn't turned into Reddit or Twitter, yet.
Bronibooru (RIP) : For MLP, dead. :( The list it's in is good for reminding me of the sites I forgot about, though!
Danbooru: The OG of that UI, still kicking. Gonna need a Gold Account for reasons.
Derpibooru/Manebooru/Twibooru/etc.: Ponies :D Almost all of them exist because of disagreements on content moderation?
DeviantArt: OMG, no, Wix is the new Yahoo Groups. Reminds me of another disaster, LOL.
e621: Duh
E-H: ... Might actually work for some people.
Facebook: Not really an art site, but it does have image uploads and comments. Horrible for exposure, and even more so if you get your non-art life mixed in.
F-List: Surprisingly, I am not really familiar with them. Only heard of it.
FurAffinity: Was good place to get introduction to furry fandom back in the day, but seems outdated.
Furbooru: Was linked recently in forum, based on same code as Derpibooru.
Furrybooru (RIP): Parked page
Furry34: A furry-focused site like the popular R34 ones.
Gelbooru: Similar to Danbooru.
HypnoHub: Good if you do a lot of genre pieces? Mascot reminds me of a certain 1st-gen psychic Pokemon.
iFunny: ROLFMAO
IB: Cubs aren't banned, that is all. Like a less restrictive FA. Absolutely NO humans in mature situations!
Mastodon: Tons of sites, too many to list. They're federated which blurs the differences, anyways. A lot of the good parts of social media, while removing the enshittening.
Patreon: MC/Visa land. Good if you don't make porn. >:)
PermaBooru(The Permanent Booru): If porn is censored, but TOR isn't blocked, I guess you could post art there. Furry only, please.
Reddit: This is a minefield. Some subs seem OK with specific genres, but the entire sub can get removed if policies change. Mostly a non-problem for SFW art and stories.
Rule34(Paheal): One of the three big ones that are somewhat popular. Some artists actually post their PNGs too big for FA or that get down-sampled at other sites, here. Actual porn preferred due to focus. Most basic tagging possible. Character/copyright/artist/uploader, basically.
Rule34.us: Another of the big 3.
Rule34.xxx: Last of the big 3 R34 sites.
SK(Sankaku Complex-chan): They actively try to harm the fandoms they depend on. You can't even source artists or offsite-galleries there - obfuscated design choices. Net negative for both artists and fans. :(
SoFurry (Used to be called YiffStar):
SubscribeStar: Because people leveraging payment processors for redlining legal businesses can GFTS. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
TBIB: A guy with a stack of HDDs as their logo. As it says on the tin!
Tumblr: O_o
Twitter/X: Uhm, yeah, bro... bad news!
VCL: Has been brought back more times than Dracula - The archive has a great history of pre-e621, post-September, 1993 time period in furry fandom.
(more added after break)
Weasyl: Oh look, another list.

But since you wanted the worst, and others mentioned DA and others and Tumblr is defunct: I'd like to mention e6AI. Why, they won't even accept it if a human did it all!

Oh look, I found another list: https://www.weasyl.com/journal/22272/i-reviewed-all-the-art-sites-full-version

kora_viridian said:
Print out two copies of it. Post one copy on the building at 300 Toni Stone Crossing, San Fransisco, California, and the other copy on the building at 2000 Purchase Street, Purchase, New York.

Those are the headquarters of the two companies who are responsible for the recent content bans on most of your favorite art sites. Those companies are acting on behalf of right-wing pressure groups.

Bro they're asking for the worst, not the best places

Also with your list what do you have against Sofurry?

The weasyl list is definitely an interesting perspective into past opinions

snpthecat said:
Bro they're asking for the worst, not the best places

Also with your list what do you have against Sofurry?

The weasyl list is definitely an interesting perspective into past opinions

I don't see kore_viridian even mentioning SF? And yeah, I list e6ai in jest, but there's a lot of people really mad that it even exists. :shrugs:

IMO, it's hard to beat DeviantArt. Went from a somewhat usable category system to an absolutely useless tagging system. Finding things on there is a mess. There basically is no moderation. It's like, a huge list of cons. That's just a few.

alphamule said:
I don't see kore_viridian even mentioning SF? And yeah, I list e6ai in jest, but there's a lot of people really mad that it even exists. :shrugs:

IMO, it's hard to beat DeviantArt. Went from a somewhat usable category system to an absolutely useless tagging system. Finding things on there is a mess. There basically is no moderation. It's like, a huge list of cons. That's just a few.

Forgot to quote you, let's forget that

maplebytes said:
Deviantart is the peak of bad places to post: obtuse moderation, awful UI, a dying community, and an unending tsunami of AI slop. Not to mention the large contingent of minors on the site. DA's corporate decisions have tanked the site that used to be THE place for artists online.

Controversial take, but... Twitter/X - good for attention (until you're buried by the algorithm), bad for pretty much everything else. Finding older art by an artist is a chore, the site is poorly laid out, the search functions are pathetic, and the algorithm constantly hides posts from, artists because they aren't "buzz worthy" enough. That's not even getting into the culture of the site or its ownership.

Furaffinity isn't even close to being the worst, but if we're complaining about art sites... why not? I like galleriy sites more than timeline based sites for art, I like the easy-on-the-eyes, simple look of the site... but I really hate that tagging standards on the site are near non-existant, and I hate that there's no way to organise or search through your favourites, or search through galleries. I understand the moderation is pretty obtuse and uneven there too, but I've never had that effect my experience with the site.

Also lets not forget that X is also a site where if you somehow manage to get under their skin someway, they literally cut down the visibility of your account by ghosting your posts and comments.

alphamule said:
#1 answer

Hmm, it would probably be quicker to just list every damn image site out there, and then say pros/cons in some table, in the long run. Maybe I'll make a spreadsheet file for it sometime.
AGN.PH: Only Pokemon (no Digimon please, oddly, human-focused allowed if in the franchise)
Aryion: More fanfics it seems, but does have images.
ATF: Because e621 takedown, kek.
Bluesky: Hard to link to as source, but seems cool. Hasn't turned into Reddit or Twitter, yet.
Bronibooru (RIP) : For MLP, dead. :( The list it's in is good for reminding me of the sites I forgot about, though!
Danbooru: The OG of that UI, still kicking. Gonna need a Gold Account for reasons.
Derpibooru/Manebooru/Twibooru/etc.: Ponies :D Almost all of them exist because of disagreements on content moderation?
DeviantArt: OMG, no, Wix is the new Yahoo Groups. Reminds me of another disaster, LOL.
e621: Duh
E-H: ... Might actually work for some people.
Facebook: Not really an art site, but it does have image uploads and comments. Horrible for exposure, and even more so if you get your non-art life mixed in.
F-List: Surprisingly, I am not really familiar with them. Only heard of it.
FurAffinity: Was good place to get introduction to furry fandom back in the day, but seems outdated.
Furbooru: Was linked recently in forum, based on same code as Derpibooru.
Furrybooru (RIP): Parked page
Furry34: A furry-focused site like the popular R34 ones.
Gelbooru: Similar to Danbooru.
HypnoHub: Good if you do a lot of genre pieces? Mascot reminds me of a certain 1st-gen psychic Pokemon.
iFunny: ROLFMAO
IB: Cubs aren't banned, that is all. Like a less restrictive FA. Absolutely NO humans in mature situations!
Mastodon: Tons of sites, too many to list. They're federated which blurs the differences, anyways. A lot of the good parts of social media, while removing the enshittening.
Patreon: MC/Visa land. Good if you don't make porn. >:)
PermaBooru(The Permanent Booru): If porn is censored, but TOR isn't blocked, I guess you could post art there. Furry only, please.
Reddit: This is a minefield. Some subs seem OK with specific genres, but the entire sub can get removed if policies change. Mostly a non-problem for SFW art and stories.
Rule34(Paheal): One of the three big ones that are somewhat popular. Some artists actually post their PNGs too big for FA or that get down-sampled at other sites, here. Actual porn preferred due to focus. Most basic tagging possible. Character/copyright/artist/uploader, basically.
Rule34.us: Another of the big 3.
Rule34.xxx: Last of the big 3 R34 sites.
SK(Sankaku Complex-chan): They actively try to harm the fandoms they depend on. You can't even source artists or offsite-galleries there - obfuscated design choices. Net negative for both artists and fans. :(
SoFurry (Used to be called YiffStar):
SubscribeStar: Because people leveraging payment processors for redlining legal businesses can GFTS. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
TBIB: A guy with a stack of HDDs as their logo. As it says on the tin!
Tumblr: O_o
Twitter/X: Uhm, yeah, bro... bad news!
VCL: Has been brought back more times than Dracula - The archive has a great history of pre-e621, post-September, 1993 time period in furry fandom.
(more added after break)
Weasyl: Oh look, another list.

But since you wanted the worst, and others mentioned DA and others and Tumblr is defunct: I'd like to mention e6AI. Why, they won't even accept it if a human did it all!

Oh look, I found another list: https://www.weasyl.com/journal/22272/i-reviewed-all-the-art-sites-full-version

What site is VCL?

All im getting are random things and google insisting that i mean VLC.

tester29 said:
What site is VCL?

All im getting are random things and google insisting that i mean VLC.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/VCL

snpthecat said:
Also with your list what do you have against Sofurry?

For you, I shall read from the words of the ancient philosopher.

It wasn't me, boss
Uh-uh, boss, it wasn't me
It must have been some other body
Uh, uh, boss, it wasn't me

All these suggestions are pretty good, but nobody has mentioned the big guns, like posting to the alt.fan.furry newsgroup, which has been all but dead and spam ridden for the last twenty or so years. But you can still post there, and the few remaining old greyfurs or some young very nerdy vintage-computing fans will see it, if they decide to check it.

amigaman said:
All these suggestions are pretty good, but nobody has mentioned the big guns, like posting to the alt.fan.furry newsgroup, which has been all but dead and spam ridden for the last twenty or so years. But you can still post there, and the few remaining old greyfurs or some young very nerdy vintage-computing fans will see it, if they decide to check it.

LOL, and I thought the X mention was bad! At least on X, it will get SOME exposure to your target audience. Well, unless your target audience is people still running a news client. Then you still have to get past the spam. ;)

"Post it on Youtube" "Yes, the NSFW" "WCPGW" <--- There we go, another one on the list of bad sites to use.

I think the biggest sites that haven't been mentioned so far in this topic so far are:

• Hentai Foundry - Probably more permissive in the porn it allows than most of the other English language websites. The search engine and tagging quality are pretty similar to FurAffinity. But the content filter options are good.
• Newgrounds - It's not just for janky Flash games from the early 2000s!
• Pixiv - I see it used as a source occasionally. But because of the Japanese barrier I've never really browsed it much, and because I've don't have an account there I'm limited in what I can do on there.
• ArtStation - It portrays itself as more of a professional portfolio site than any of the others listed, but there is some furry/fanart stuff to be found there. But I think people have been moving away from it in recent years?
• Instagram - lol

alphamule said:
Oh look, I found another list: https://www.weasyl.com/journal/22272/i-reviewed-all-the-art-sites-full-version

It's not very flattering to e621, but then, the list was made in 2014. :p There's been a lot of evolution since then. We're still a hive of scum and villainy, but we're a better hive of scum and villainy now. :p

tester29 said:
What site is VCL?

Over twenty years ago, VCL was the biggest furry art gallery site on the internet. It is now deader than a doornail, and only available via the Wayback Machine.
________

From around the same time, there was also Yerf AKA the Squeaky Clean Furry Archive. Mature and adult furry art weren't allowed, but new artist applications were reviewed for quality before the artist could be accepted. What made this one of the worst places over time to post art to was that it became virtually impossible to join the site.

Perhaps the best way to describe it is the parable of the sheep farmer, who took such pride in the quality of his sheep that he built a fence that a sheep had to jump over before it could be part of the flock. Because he wanted only the best of the best, he kept building the fence higher and higher, making it harder and harder for sheep to jump it, but he could be assured that he would have only the best sheep even if they were becoming fewer and fewer. Then one day, he built it so high no sheep, not even the best jumper, could get over it, and the supply of sheep dried up. So much for his flock.

In Yerf's case, it wasn't just the quality standards that got higher. There was a lack of reviewers who wanted to go through the applications as they piled up, rather like our AIBUR situation before the nukings. Further, if an application was rejected for any reason, the artist had to wait six months before they could reapply. Accusations of elitism abounded. (Yeah, I was one of those artists who didn't get in, but my art quality wasn't really good enough back then, either.)

Then Yerf died. Like a doornail.

I won't get into the salacious details, so here's the WikiFur article. You can still observe Yerf's corpse in state thanks to volunteers. If anyone wants to go nuts with mirroring any of that here, gopher it.