Topic: black and white and...

The bulk update request #9814 is pending approval.

create alias black_and_white_and_brown (3) -> restricted_palette (11536)
create alias black_and_white_and_orange (6) -> restricted_palette (11536)
create alias black_and_white_and_purple (6) -> restricted_palette (11536)
create alias black_and_white_and_pink (19) -> restricted_palette (11536)
create alias black_and_white_and_yellow (12) -> restricted_palette (11536)
create alias black_and_white_and_blue (35) -> restricted_palette (11536)

Reason: black_and_white_and_green aliases to restricted_palette so i thought these should too

i think black_and_white_and_red is still popular enough to deserve its own tag but none of these other ones are

Isn't restricted_palette only used for images that are fully colored in? Those tags could also be used for spot_color.

snowboots said:
Isn't restricted_palette only used for images that are fully colored in? Those tags could also be used for spot_color.

but black_and_white_and_green already aliases to restricted palette

furward_thinker said:
but black_and_white_and_green already aliases to restricted palette

Not sure how that happened, but it probably shouldn't.

The image color palette tags are quite a mess, there's a ton of these floating about. My preferred solution is to establish the [color]_monochrome tags (also subtags under those (like black/white/grey_and_[color]) would be nice but there aren't enough posts to justify it)

subtlereminder said:
Not sure how that happened, but it probably shouldn't.

alias #73189

What's black, and white, and blue all over?

These sound like they should probably be considered monochrome instead, like black_and_blue and blue_and_white. Black and white do not have a distinct hue, so they can still be used in monochrome images with a single hue.
I actually feel like these may be more useful than distinguishing between (color) and black/white, though they are a lot more wordy.

The bulk update request #9865 is pending approval.

Reason: Testing the waters. What do you think of [color]_monochrome? If we want them, what should we do with the black and white and color tags? Imply them to [color]_monochrome or alias instead?

Edit: Their category should be meta too, following monochrome being meta

snpthecat said:
The bulk update request #9865 is pending approval.

create implication blue_monochrome (125) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication brown_monochrome (47) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication green_monochrome (42) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication orange_monochrome (21) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication pink_monochrome (78) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication purple_monochrome (53) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication red_monochrome (71) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication tan_monochrome (27) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication teal_monochrome (18) -> monochrome (453203)
create implication yellow_monochrome (28) -> monochrome (453203)
change category blue_monochrome (125) -> meta
change category brown_monochrome (47) -> meta
change category green_monochrome (42) -> meta
change category orange_monochrome (21) -> meta
change category pink_monochrome (78) -> meta
change category purple_monochrome (53) -> meta
change category red_monochrome (71) -> meta
change category tan_monochrome (27) -> meta
change category teal_monochrome (18) -> meta
change category yellow_monochrome (28) -> meta

Reason: Testing the waters. What do you think of [color]_monochrome? If we want them, what should we do with the black and white and color tags? Imply them to [color]_monochrome or alias instead?

White and black are every color, according to the positive and negative versions of color theory. :shrugs:

snpthecat said:
If we want them, what should we do with the black and white and color tags? Imply them to [color]_monochrome or alias instead?

Alias, right? I’m not even sure what the distinction would be. Unless *_monochrome includes gray, and black_and_white_and_color doesn’t… but that seems like a pointless distinction.

spe said:
Alias, right? I’m not even sure what the distinction would be. Unless *_monochrome includes gray, and black_and_white_and_color doesn’t… but that seems like a pointless distinction.

I don't see tags like this ever expanding out of its niche, so that won't hurt.

Does anyone have any opinions on [color]_and_white/grey and black_and_[color]? Best to standardise so the color is first?

Black white and an additional color would no longer be monochrome, right?

This would fit well under pink_monochrome because it's all pink:
post #5232921

Calling this pink_monochrome however seems a little questionable:
post #2067009

faucet said:
Black white and an additional color would no longer be monochrome, right?

Calling this pink_monochrome however seems a little questionable:
post #2067009

Eh, it's black and pink, and while none of the black_and_color tags imply monochrome, the implications on [color]_and_grey/white definitely suggest it should