Topic: [REJECTED] Cleaning up the train-related tags

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #9748 has been rejected.

mass update steam_locomotive -> steam_train
create implication diesel-electric_locomotive (31) -> diesel_locomotive (26)
mass update diesel_locomotive -> diesel_train
mass update electric_locomotive -> electric_train
create implication steam_locomotive (113) -> locomotive (227)
create implication diesel_locomotive (26) -> locomotive (227)
create implication electric_locomotive (38) -> locomotive (227)
mass update railcar -> railroad_car
mass update freight_railcar -> freight_car
create implication freight_car (0) -> railroad_car (0)
mass update box_railcar -> boxcar
create implication boxcar (21) -> freight_car (0)
mass update passenger_railcar -> passenger_car
create implication passenger_car (0) -> railroad_car (0)
create implication passenger_car (0) -> passenger_train (24)
create implication passenger_train (24) -> public_transportation (4115)
create alias subway (971) -> rapid_transit (566)
remove implication cable_tram (1) -> urban_rail_transit (171)
remove implication tram (78) -> urban_rail_transit (171)
remove implication monorail (23) -> urban_rail_transit (171)
remove implication funicular (6) -> urban_rail_transit (171)
remove implication cable_tram (1) -> urban_rail_transit (171)

Reason: There are a massive amount of duplicate tags and incorrectly used terms when it comes to train-related tags. This is my attempt to partially clean them up. Here are some explanations of specific points.

New steam_train, diesel_train, and electric_train tags are added so that multiple units are not incorrectly tagged as locomotives. I'll tag posts that should be tagged with the locomotive tags and make the necessary multiple unit tags if this goes through.

railcar should no longer be used because it refers to powered single passenger carriages, not unpowered vehicles.

subway should be aliased to rapid_transit because the latter already has tags like subway_train aliased to it

urban_rail_transit should no longer be used because it is too vague a term and the implications currently make several posts that should not be tagged urban_rail_transit in any case tagged with it.

If you have any questions, please ask.

EDIT: The bulk update request #9748 (forum #424995) has been rejected by @tvattrcerebr.

Updated by auto moderator

It’s been a year now and it seems like this BUR hasn’t got up steam yet (ba-dum-tss 🥁)

But seriously tho, someone should approve this

tvattrcerebr said:
mass update steam_locomotive -> steam_train

Steam multiple units are not a thing so steam_train should be aliased to steam_locomotive. Though technically someone could draw one, so maybe not.
Edit: never mind, SMUs are a real thing.

Note that steam_train already exists as a copyright.

tvattrcerebr said:
create implication diesel-electric_locomotive (31) -> diesel_locomotive (26)

Should be an alias. "Diesel-electric" refers to its transmission type, which you can't really tell from outside. Technically, you also can't tell if it's diesel or not, but petrol, gas turbine and other types are really rare so it's fine to assume it's diesel, I think.

tvattrcerebr said:
mass update freight_railcar -> freight_car
create implication freight_car (0) -> railroad_car (0)
create implication boxcar (21) -> freight_car (0)
mass update passenger_railcar -> passenger_car
create implication passenger_car (0) -> railroad_car (0)

passenger_car should be passenger_railroad_car to avoid confusion with automobiles. Same with freight_car for consistency.

tvattrcerebr said:
create implication passenger_car (0) -> passenger_train (24)

It's possible to draw a single car, don't think it would be accurate to call it train (not sure though).

Related: topic #59283.

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Original page: https://e621.net/forum_topics/47403