The bulk update request #9674 is pending approval.

create implication pussyjob (2948) -> outercourse (325)
create implication thigh_sex (5261) -> outercourse (325)
create implication titfuck (31732) -> outercourse (325)
create implication hot_dogging (13511) -> outercourse (325)
create implication frottage (16061) -> outercourse (325)
create implication mutual_masturbation (2201) -> outercourse (325)

Reason: All the above acts involve non-penetrative ways of having sex, even if penetration does occur. Outercourse is the best way to group all these tags together, much like how we group fellatio and cunnilingus together under oral sex, gynomorph and andromorph under intersex, or even the vast array of sex positions from either the front or behind. Having the term outercourse implicated by all these tags would make the overlap between them clearer, as e621 has significantly less posts tagged with outercourse compared to each aforementioned tag.

Oh I really like this. As someone who enjoys a lot content with non-penetrative sex, looking it up has always been a massive pain in the ass with lack of handy blanket tag.

In an ideal world, it would also make sense to create a tag to unify all the non-erogenous body part x penis "*job" tags like handjob, footjob, wingjob, tailjob, bodyjob, etc., but there's really no good name for that.

crocogator said:
In an ideal world, it would also make sense to create a tag to unify all the non-erogenous body part x penis "*job" tags like handjob, footjob, wingjob, tailjob, bodyjob, etc., but there's really no good name for that.

We can make one, outerjob
Would it include things like thigh_sex (which had thighjob aliased to it)?

Also it seems that it isn't that consistent, handjob, tailjob, bodyjob, and thigh_sex requires a penis, but footjob and wingjob don't?

snpthecat said:

We can make one, outerjob
Would it include things like thigh_sex (which had thighjob aliased to it)?

Also it seems that it isn't that consistent, handjob, tailjob, bodyjob, and thigh_sex requires a penis, but footjob and wingjob don't?

To be honest, I didn't think this through very much; it was more just my initial thought for this BUR. I'm now questioning if anyone would use such a tag, and what would or would not count. If we do create such a tag, I do like the name outerjob.

EDIT: Oh, I missed that last part. I didn't realize that.

Oh yeah, for sure, I had no idea topic #33303 had been accepted or I would've created this BUR myself. An umbrella tag would be incredibly useful for those looking for non-penetrative sex.

The one thing currently preventing me from +1 voting, though:

i'veseensomuch said:
create implication mutual_masturbation (2198) -> outercourse (325)

Not too sure about this one - "Mutual masturbation is a form of sex where participants manually stimulate each other." - manual stimulation could include fisting, which is penetrative? Even fingering itself is currently in that grey area where it's not counted as penetration even though it really should be, which may change one day. I suppose one of the bigger problems with *_fingering tags is that they don't distinguish actually being inserted into the orifice versus just rubbing the outside.

Ideally, a post would be tagged correctly and the outercourse implication would come from the actual sex act (e.g. handjob) anyway.

faucet said:
Oh yeah, for sure, I had no idea topic #33303 had been accepted or I would've created this BUR myself. An umbrella tag would be incredibly useful for those looking for non-penetrative sex.

The one thing currently preventing me from +1 voting, though:

Not too sure about this one - "Mutual masturbation is a form of sex where participants manually stimulate each other." - manual stimulation could include fisting, which is penetrative? Even fingering itself is currently in that grey area where it's not counted as penetration even though it really should be, which may change one day. I suppose one of the bigger problems with *_fingering tags is that they don't distinguish actually being inserted into the orifice versus just rubbing the outside.

Ideally, a post would be tagged correctly and the outercourse implication would come from the actual sex act (e.g. handjob) anyway.

I added this one specifically because the existing wiki page for outercourse mentions it, so I figured that was part of the local e621 definition, since sex words mean different things to different groups. I absolutely see what you mean, and wouldn't be opposed to it not being included.

A few things:

• Yeah, remove mutual_masturbation, that could definitely include penetration. Like post #73652
• Why aren’t handjob/footjob/tailjob etc. included?
• tribadism should count too, no? I mean, if frottage counts…