Topic: A problem with pointy_ears BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #8901 is active.

remove alias pointed_ear (0) -> humanoid_pointy_ears (66097)
remove alias point_ear (0) -> humanoid_pointy_ears (66097)
remove alias point_ears (0) -> humanoid_pointy_ears (66097)
remove alias pointy_ears (83043) -> humanoid_pointy_ears (66097)
remove alias pointed_ears (0) -> humanoid_pointy_ears (66097)

Reason: too generic and prone mistaging, there dozens of different types of pointy ears that are not humanoid or only have a borderline resemblance

Not humanoid ears examples
post #106162 post #150541 post #253719 post #890236 post #4842901

Borderline (outlined shape but no traits of a humanoid ear or traits that are not humanoid) examples
post #1787906 post #1897890 post #4289002 post #967178 post #350279

And yes all examples and 100s or 1000s more like these are presently tagged with humanoid_pointy_ears.

EDIT: The bulk update request #8901 (forum #414229) has been approved by @spe.

Updated by auto moderator

additional part of the BUR that must be input manually

alias pointed_ear -> pointy_ears
alias point_ear -> pointy_ears
alias point_ears -> pointy_ears
alias pointed_ears -> pointy_ears
alias pointy_eared -> pointy_ears

Updated

What would we think about something like this instead?
imply humanoid_pointy_ears -> pointy_ears imply prick_ears -> pointy_ears
So rather than a disambiguation tag that regularly needs to be cleaned up, we have an umbrella tag for pointy ears regardless of form or species. No manual upkeep required.

spe said:
What would we think about something like this instead?
imply humanoid_pointy_ears -> pointy_ears imply prick_ears -> pointy_ears
So rather than a disambiguation tag that regularly needs to be cleaned up, we have an umbrella tag for pointy ears regardless of form or species. No manual upkeep required.

ngl, I kinda love this. And I think it would function quite well in practice. +1

spe said:
What would we think about something like this instead?
imply humanoid_pointy_ears -> pointy_ears imply prick_ears -> pointy_ears
So rather than a disambiguation tag that regularly needs to be cleaned up, we have an umbrella tag for pointy ears regardless of form or species. No manual upkeep required.

I agree with that suggestion.

Watsit

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spe said:
What would we think about something like this instead?
imply humanoid_pointy_ears -> pointy_ears

Should that be an alias instead? I don't see humanoid_pointy_ears as being terribly different from humanoid+pointy_ears.

spe said:
What would we think about something like this instead?
imply humanoid_pointy_ears -> pointy_ears imply prick_ears -> pointy_ears
So rather than a disambiguation tag that regularly needs to be cleaned up, we have an umbrella tag for pointy ears regardless of form or species. No manual upkeep required.

That seems fine, the disambiguation does in hindsight seem rather unnecessary as the uses are related. +1

edited those out.

spe said:
What would we think about something like this instead?
imply humanoid_pointy_ears -> pointy_ears imply prick_ears -> pointy_ears
So rather than a disambiguation tag that regularly needs to be cleaned up, we have an umbrella tag for pointy ears regardless of form or species. No manual upkeep required.

I like this idea

watsit said:
Should that be an alias instead? I don't see humanoid_pointy_ears as being terribly different from humanoid+pointy_ears.

humanoid + pointy ears and no humanoid_pointy_ears:
post #5017363 post #5016972 post #5011860

humanoid_pointy_ears and not humanoid:
post #5000359 (apparently humanoid_taur doesn't imply humanoid)
post #5006353 post #5006352 post #5003860

The bulk update request #9505 is active.

create alias pointed_ear (0) -> pointy_ears (83043)
create alias point_ear (0) -> pointy_ears (83043)
create alias point_ears (0) -> pointy_ears (83043)
create alias pointed_ears (0) -> pointy_ears (83043)
create alias pointy_eared (4) -> pointy_ears (83043)
create implication humanoid_pointy_ears (66097) -> pointy_ears (83043)
create implication prick_ears (16902) -> pointy_ears (83043)

Reason: Followup

EDIT: The bulk update request #9505 (forum #422264) has been approved by @spe.

Updated by auto moderator

snpthecat said:
What do you guys think about pointy and animal ears? Should the implication be moved to direct to pointy ears now, or modify the tag name to make what it's used for clearer? Or do away with the tag entirely?

(there's also human and animal ears)

should be aliased away. it's arguably over-specific, the lack of usage as well as misuse of the tag is apparent to be done. likewise, someone should instead search human_and_animal_ears + humanoid_pointy_ears simultaneously.

snpthecat said:
What do you guys think about pointy and animal ears? Should the implication be moved to direct to pointy ears now, or modify the tag name to make what it's used for clearer? Or do away with the tag entirely?

I do see value in having a tag that covers characters that have both a set of pointy humanoid ears and a separate set of animal ears, it is fairly common among east Asian animal humanoids alongside human and animal ears however the terminology used for the tag in question is the worst, too many people are confusing it for just prick ears/pointy animal ears. I would migrate the correct posts to a new tag and then alias away 'pointy and animal ears'.

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