Topic: (BUR) Reinstate gender count tags (1_male, 2_females, etc.) More groundbreaking changes to the tag system! Wheeeee

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

faucet said:
People coming out the woodwork who have never posted on the forum before to voice their opinion yet there's "no demand for this" ๐Ÿค”

Literally nobody said there wasn't demand (unless you are referring to some previous version of a comment), so your quote isn't a quote.
A few people, including me, said that demand wasn't utility -- and I stand by this. A given set of tags is a particular way of solving a given problem. I don't trust 'demand' because, while I'm sure people know what problems they experience, I don't trust people to accurately predict whether the particular solution is going to be better, for the overall system, than literally doing nothing -- or even to necessarily make any analysis at all rather than just jumping on a bandwagon that looks shiny.

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So we have to do bodycounting. This will not go well in my opinion.

I always thought that e6 has a unique charm that other booru sites don't have. I'm sure the majority of users here don't mind how many male, female, or herm characters are in a single post, they just search for their favorire kinks, or maybe other stuff out of curiosity. But hey, mff_threesome too hard to find.

Only the very detailed users will benefit from this. Only they are the ones that will be using these bodycount tags.

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monsterbomb10010 said:
I always thought that e6 has a unique charm that other booru sites don't have. I'm sure the majority of users here don't mind how many male, female, or herm characters are in a single post, they just search for their favorire kinks, or maybe other stuff out of curiosity. But hey, mff_threesome too hard to find.

As stated in the topic about xyz_threesome, those tags are really not that workable (fully populating *_threesome would entail 120 different tags, by my calculation, and many more aliases to normalize eg. fmf,ffm -> mff; most of the relevant tags do not currently exist). I don't think counting is useful in general, but for that particular application, count tags might be the best answer I've seen.

savageorange said:
120 different tags, by my calculation

94. 84, the 7th tetrahedral number* covers all the combinations of all the 7 core gender categories, and then there are 10 more unique combinations containing intersex since we don't combine that with any of its subtags for pairings.

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that's a sum of every triangle number from 1-7
7+6+5+4+3+2+1+
6+5+4+3+2+1+
5+4+3+2+1+
4+3+2+1+
3+2+1+
2+1+
1 = 84

and there are 10 more unique combos containing i, as well as m, f, or ?:

mmi, mfi, m?i, mii
ffi, f?i, fii
??i, ?ii
iii

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Quoting directly from a janitor of another recent thread

strikerman said:
In theory, unnecessary tags clog up the tag list and make it harder for people to find more useful or relevant information.

I'm fine with one or two silly little things like these, though.

Which is bizarre, considering these proposals being the equivalent of using a roll of paper towel in the toilet

I can understand the walls of text I'm not reading worrying about ultra-specific tags, but ... at the same time, I feel like trying to find pictures with multiple participants in very specific ways, like 1 male/2 female, or 1 female/2 male is more difficult than it has to be, while still being a very common kind of art piece. A lot more than the aforementioned "2 clothed female anthros" which isn't a kind of picture people want to find for the same reasons you'd want to find 2 female, 1 male pieces.

In short, c'mon. The extreme end of vague and simple tags isn't necessarily better than the extreme end of a tag for every pixel either. There's plenty of juicy middle ground, and "multiple_females" being set to just "female" just seems woefully incorrect.

Gonna be honest... I think the only way I could see these working is if we removed all the intersex umbrella tags. (Could leave plain intersex though if needed - I'm just talking about things like male_penetrating_intersex, clothed_intersex, etc.)

<number>_intersex is just not reasonable since nothing can imply it. I don't think any of these intersex tags are useful anyway, they feel like tag bloat and like a holdover from when we had a 4 tag search limit.

alphamule

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I'm probably going to entirely stay out of this one and read it later. I probably wouldn't bother tagging them TBH, but if 10000 other people were, I might reconsider. Already busy. Good luck! :)

I'm just hoping for <solo_x> and <multiple_x> tags, I don't even care about numbers. Hell, even just adding <solo_x> and then using <group> could work for the majority of searching. That would at least lessen the load by a majority.

But seriously, this site has been really lacking in these basic searching tags for too long. I really hope this is still being looked at.

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