Topic: [APPROVED] line art BUR

The bulk update request #7309 is active.

create implication blue_line_art (341) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication brown_line_art (87) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication green_line_art (97) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication multicolored_line_art (37) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication orange_line_art (56) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication pink_line_art (114) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication purple_line_art (135) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication red_line_art (163) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication tan_line_art (11) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication teal_line_art (8) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication white_line_art (406) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication yellow_line_art (30) -> colored_line_art (2468)

Reason: As defined on Wiki, colored_line_art refers to any line art that is not black.
And like any other color tags, I think <color>_line_art should have a tag that includes them all.

EDIT: The bulk update request #7309 (forum #397915) has been approved by @slyroon.

Pink one says duplicate... What should I do in this case?
I don't request BUR that often so I'm not sure.

So long as the duplicate (implication #52875) gets handled before this BUR, everything should be fine. The staff will take care of things

strikerman said:
So long as the duplicate (implication #52875) gets handled before this BUR, everything should be fine. The staff will take care of things

Okay thanks. Please mention me if anything has to be changed.

coffeeco said:
The bulk update request #7309 is active.

create implication blue_line_art (341) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication brown_line_art (87) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication green_line_art (97) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication multicolored_line_art (37) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication orange_line_art (56) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication pink_line_art (114) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication purple_line_art (135) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication red_line_art (163) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication tan_line_art (11) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication teal_line_art (8) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication white_line_art (406) -> colored_line_art (2468)
create implication yellow_line_art (30) -> colored_line_art (2468)

Reason: As defined on Wiki, colored_line_art refers to any line art that is not black.
And like any other color tags, I think <color>_line_art should have a tag that includes them all.

I recommend including teal_line_art, it's part of tag group:colors

I realized colored_line_art doesn't imply line_art
Should I add it too?

coffeeco said:
I realized colored_line_art doesn't imply line_art
Should I add it too?

Yes

coffeeco said:
I realized colored_line_art doesn't imply line_art
Should I add it too?

Line_art is for uncolored images, where it's JUST linework and no color/shading, see the wiki page. Colored_line_art is currently filled with colored images that would not fit under the line_art tag.

wandering_spaniel said:
Line_art is for uncolored images, where it's JUST linework and no color/shading, see the wiki page. Colored_line_art is currently filled with colored images that would not fit under the line_art tag.

Seems like it would need quite the cleanup, seems that colored line art is mistaken for line art that's been colored in.

Would a renaming be in order?

snpthecat said:
Seems like it would need quite the cleanup, seems that colored line art is mistaken for line art that's been colored in.

Would a renaming be in order?

I think we might need a new tag.

line_art only refers to monochorme artworks (whether pink_and_white, blue_and_white or etc,) so colored_line_art should refer to these kinds of posts.
post #3575160 post #3493988

But the problem is, that people think it means lines that are not black in fully-colored artworks.
post #4495795 post #4694168
I think there's no tags for these kinds of posts.

coffeeco said:
I think we might need a new tag.

line_art only refers to monochorme artworks (whether pink_and_white, blue_and_white or etc,) so colored_line_art should refer to these kinds of posts.
post #3575160 post #3493988

But the problem is, that people think it means lines that are not black in fully-colored artworks.
post #4495795 post #4694168
I think there's no tags for these kinds of posts.

Hot take: i think it should be for the second set of posts instead. Except you're right that the name is really confusing because of the line_art tag having a different meaning.
I've been an artist and involved in the art community since about 2014 and in my experience "colored lineart" always means fully colored art with lineart that's not black, especially if the lineart is multicolored to match colors near each portion of the lines.

Also more importantly we already have a tag combo for these: Line_art purple_and_white, line_art red_and_white etc
post #3575160 post #3493988

wandering_spaniel said:
Hot take: i think it should be for the second set of posts instead. Except you're right that the name is really confusing because of the line_art tag having a different meaning.
I've been an artist and involved in the art community since about 2014 and in my experience "colored lineart" always means fully colored art with lineart that's not black, especially if the lineart is multicolored to match colors near each portion of the lines.

Also more importantly we already have a tag combo for these: Line_art purple_and_white, line_art red_and_white etc
post #3575160 post #3493988

Not necessarily, line_art can be on any background so the [color]_and_white won't catch those
A prominent example is white_line_art

wandering_spaniel said:
Hot take: i think it should be for the second set of posts instead. Except you're right that the name is really confusing because of the line_art tag having a different meaning.
I've been an artist and involved in the art community since about 2014 and in my experience "colored lineart" always means fully colored art with lineart that's not black, especially if the lineart is multicolored to match colors near each portion of the lines.

The current wiki page for colored_line_art says,

This tag is used for images and animations that feature line art that is not the traditional black_and_white line art

so at least the wiki seems to mean the not fully_colored posts.

But I agree with you. I used to tag my stuff colored_line_art because I thought it meant what you said.

snpthecat said:
Not necessarily, line_art can be on any background so the [color]_and_white won't catch those
A prominent example is white_line_art

Hmm fair enough... we should have a tag for colored lines on colored images though. I'll try and think of names. Also colored_line_art will be forever getting mistagged lol

wandering_spaniel said:

Hmm fair enough... we should have a tag for colored lines on colored images though. I'll try and think of names. Also colored_line_art will be forever getting mistagged lol

Yeah, it definitely would keep getting mistagged.

We could have a tag for colored lines no matter if it's a un/colored image, and rename the current [color]_line_art tags. Colored lines on colored images would be colored_lines -colored_line_art (names are a placeholder)

"colored_line" seems like a good blanket term to me!

so for specific colors, should we use *_colored_lines then?

Well maybe just *_lines do fine. Pink_colored_lines sounds a little weird.

The bulk update request #7309 (forum #397915) has been approved by @slyroon.

1)
I would like to revert the white_line_art -> colored_line_art implication. Might just be me, but I find it a but jarring to see black_and_white (white line art over black background) posts in the colored_line_art search.

2)
I think we should mass update line_art to line_art_only or sketch, then invalidate the tag. It’s easy to mistake line_art as applicable to every colored-in post with lines, especially to people who don’t check the wikis.

A "line art only" tag could be coupled with colored_line_art to get all posts that are only colored line art but not colored-in.

coffeeco said:
post #4495795 post #4694168
I think there's no tags for these kinds of posts.

*_outline seems to apply for a majority of these posts.

anicebee said:
*_outline seems to apply for a majority of these posts.

outline is for an outline around the outer edges of the figure, according to the wiki. It gets misused a lot though

post #843666 post #3507 post #207350

wandering_spaniel said:
outline is for an outline around the outer edges of the figure, according to the wiki. It gets misused a lot though

post #843666 post #3507 post #207350

I don't see how that disproves my point. There's no TWYS difference between an outline and colored in line-art, unless both are on the same subject.

coffeeco said:
so for specific colors, should we use *_colored_lines then?

Well maybe just *_lines do fine. Pink_colored_lines sounds a little weird.

*_lines sounds really ambiguous to me.

anicebee said:
I don't see how that disproves my point. There's no TWYS difference between an outline and colored in line-art, unless both are on the same subject.

The outline is around the edge of the lineart

wandering_spaniel said:
The outline is around the edge of the lineart

Yeah, I realize my mistake in reasoning now.

anicebee said:
Yeah, I realize my mistake in reasoning now.

Lol, all good :)

The bulk update request #9149 is pending approval.

remove implication white_line_art (406) -> colored_line_art (2468)

Reason: As per the above request, an image with white lines on black or gray doesn't make a lot of sense to be called "colored line art" - shall we put it to a vote?