Topic: Unnecessary bow (anatomy) tags

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #6443 is pending approval.

create alias neck_bow_(anatomy) (155) -> neck_bow (1579)
create alias hair_bow_(anatomy) (107) -> hair_bow (28261)
create alias ear_bow_(anatomy) (71) -> ear_bow (1418)
create alias pink_bow_(anatomy) (27) -> pink_bow (1368)
create alias white_bow_(anatomy) (26) -> white_bow (281)
create alias two_tone_bow_(anatomy) (25) -> two_tone_bow (53)
create alias tail_bow_(anatomy) (5) -> tail_bow (4073)

Reason: I'm working on a giant group of BURs to cover all bow tags, because they're a mess, but I want to get this one out of the way because... Seriously?

These tags serve zero purpose. They're only ever used on Sylveons. I don't understand how these aren't just... bows. There's no visual difference. I could at the very least see bow_(anatomy) staying, but the others are just silly.

Edit: The bow wiki says "anatomy bows should be kept out of accessory tags...", but this was added by a user whose tagging choices are infamously questionable (and also responsible for a good number of things being dealt with in other threads...)

Updated

alphamule said:
*bow_(anatomy) -sylveon Hmm, not that many.

I was sure there were some non-Sylveon uses, but the uses were mostly Sylveon, so I exaggerated.

I just don't understand how two_tone_bow_(anatomy) would ever be a useful tag distinct from two_tone_bow. A bow is a bow.

(Also to be clear, part of my big BUR is that I don't think any of the [location]_bow tags should imply bow_ribbon or [location]_ribbon to begin with because bows aren't inherently ribbons. I can bring that up here too if the current accessory implication chain is an issue.)

The bulk update request #6444 has been rejected.

remove implication hair_bow (28261) -> hair_ribbon (31289)
remove implication hair_bow (28261) -> bow_ribbon (40711)
remove implication horn_bow (201) -> horn_ribbon (255)
remove implication horn_bow (201) -> bow_ribbon (40711)
remove implication tail_bow (4073) -> tail_ribbon (5028)
remove implication tail_bow (4073) -> bow_ribbon (40711)
remove implication penis_bow (576) -> penis_ribbon (947)

Reason: Actually, here, let me propose this in this thread, if the concern is that the ear_bow, hair_bow tags currently imply accessory through the ribbon implications...

Bows are not inherently ribbons. These are not ribbons:

post #2099452 This is just part of the hair.
post #3177315 This is a headband.
post #1904169 The black bow here is just a hairclip.

A hair bow could also be fabric attached to a hair elastic or scrunchie.

Part 2:

imply hair_bow -> bow_(feature)
imply horn_bow -> bow_(feature)
imply tail_bow -> bow_(feature)
imply penis_bow -> bow_(feature)

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Also, how do you know via TWYS that these hair bows are part of the character's body?

post #4099937 post #3686810 post #2667272

And how do you know these are bow_(anatomy):

post #4415267 post #4157894

While these aren't?:

post #3823624 post #2780516

EDIT: The bulk update request #6444 (forum #389814) has been rejected by @dsco.

Updated by auto moderator

dsco said:
The bulk update request #6443 is pending approval.

create alias neck_bow_(anatomy) (155) -> neck_bow (1579)
create alias hair_bow_(anatomy) (107) -> hair_bow (28261)
create alias ear_bow_(anatomy) (71) -> ear_bow (1418)
create alias pink_bow_(anatomy) (27) -> pink_bow (1368)
create alias white_bow_(anatomy) (26) -> white_bow (281)
create alias two_tone_bow_(anatomy) (25) -> two_tone_bow (53)
create alias tail_bow_(anatomy) (5) -> tail_bow (4073)

I think it'd be better to alias them all to bow_(anatomy), if these are going to be aliased.

sipothac said:
I think it'd be better to alias them all to bow_(anatomy), if these are going to be aliased.

I'm not against this either, though I still do question how easily you can tell via TWYS whether a bow is a part of the character's anatomy or an accessory, particularly on ferals.

IMO i think it's a little unnecessary for bow colors. bow locations would be more important and colors are just superfluous

There's already precedent for this situation. Check the wiki for pseudo_clothing.
The tag should be pseudo_bow for bows that are clearly part of the anatomy, like those squids.
post #2099452
If it isn't clearly a part of the anatomy, like with most sylveons, then it's not twys and should be tagged like a regular bow.
Before anyone argues that bows aren't clothing: neither is pseudo_clothing, necessarily. It already includes pseudo_scarf via implication, despite scarves not implicating clothing.

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