Topic: Leaf, grass, and plant clothing implications BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #6354 is pending approval.

create implication plant_clothing (155) -> plant (322186)
create implication plant_clothing (155) -> clothing (2059960)
create implication plant_bottomwear (1) -> plant_clothing (155)
create implication plant_dress (49) -> dress (85038)
create implication plant_dress (49) -> plant_clothing (155)
create implication plant_skirt (5) -> skirt (79740)
create implication plant_skirt (5) -> plant_clothing (155)
create implication plant_skirt (5) -> plant_bottomwear (1)
create implication plant_bikini (3) -> plant_clothing (155)
create implication leaf_clothing (772) -> leaf (22852)
create implication leaf_clothing (772) -> plant_clothing (155)
create implication leaf_bottomwear (1) -> leaf_clothing (772)
create implication leaf_bottomwear (1) -> plant_bottomwear (1)
create implication leaf_skirt (86) -> leaf_clothing (772)
create implication leaf_skirt (86) -> plant_skirt (5)
create implication leaf_skirt (86) -> leaf_bottomwear (1)
create implication leaf_dress (134) -> plant_dress (49)
create implication leaf_dress (134) -> leaf_clothing (772)
create implication leaf_bikini (51) -> bikini (81035)
create implication leaf_bikini (51) -> leaf_clothing (772)
create implication leaf_bikini (51) -> plant_bikini (3)
create implication grass_skirt (670) -> plant (322186)
create implication grass_skirt (670) -> plant_skirt (5)
create implication floral_grass_skirt (6) -> grass_skirt (670)

Reason: These implications would be useful for characters like tinker_bell_(disney) and elora, in images where their green clothing is clearly made specifically of leaves (as opposed to being just a vague green material).

The BUR is listed in order of least-specific plants and clothing items, to most-specific.

This BUR would create the new, currently-unused tags leaf_bottomwear, plant_bottomwear, and plant_bikini. They're included for the sake of completeness, but please let me know if it's better without them.

Questions:

1. Partly to keep the BUR under 25 lines, it uses the pattern leaf_<item> only implies plant_<item> and leaf_clothing; in turn, the latter tags are used to imply plant_clothing, which in turn implies the broadest plant and clothing tags. Would it be better if leaf_<item> tags also directly implied the higher-level tags like plant_clothing, clothing, and plant?

2. I've included these implications even though I wasn't sure about them - let me know if they should be removed:

  • imply grass_skirt -> grass
    • If this site's intended use of the grass tag is only meant to describe images of grass-growing areas like fields or gardens, then I'll remove this line.
  • imply grass_skirt -> leaf_skirt
    • AFAIK grasses are technically leaves, but not all blades of grass look much like leaves, so maybe this should be left out?
    • The grass tag itself doesn't imply leaf. This line could lead to cases where an image of a grass skirt is tagged with leaf but an image of a garden is not, which is a kinda silly inconsistency. If this should be avoided, I'll remove this line.

Watsit

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How would this apply to pseudo_clothing? On creatures like bellossom who have leaves that resemble a skirt or dress, tagging that leaf_skirt or leaf_dress would erroneously cause such posts to be tagged clothing.

chemistrynoisy said:

  • imply grass_skirt -> leaf_skirt
    • AFAIK grasses are technically leaves, but not all blades of grass look much like leaves, so maybe this should be left out?
    • The grass tag itself doesn't imply leaf. This line could lead to cases where an image of a grass skirt is tagged with leaf but an image of a garden is not, which is a kinda silly inconsistency. If this should be avoided, I'll remove this line.

I'd follow how grass implies plant instead of leaf, for consistency.

watsit said:
How would this apply to pseudo_clothing? On creatures like bellossom who have leaves that resemble a skirt or dress, tagging that leaf_skirt or leaf_dress would erroneously cause such posts to be tagged clothing.

Sorry, I hadn't thought of that!

I think if I edited the BUR to remove the following struck out lines, that should keep the chain of implications between these items and the plant and leaf tags, but break the chain to the real clothing tags skirt, dress, bottomwear, bikini, and clothing:

implicate plant_clothing -> plant
implicate plant_clothing -> clothing
implicate plant_bottomwear -> plant_clothing
implicate plant_dress -> dress
implicate plant_dress -> plant_clothing
implicate plant_skirt -> skirt
implicate plant_skirt -> plant_clothing
implicate plant_skirt -> plant_bottomwear
implicate plant_bikini -> plant_clothing
implicate leaf_clothing -> leaf
implicate leaf_clothing -> plant_clothing
implicate leaf_bottomwear -> leaf_clothing
implicate leaf_bottomwear -> plant_bottomwear
implicate leaf_skirt -> leaf_clothing
implicate leaf_skirt -> plant_skirt
implicate leaf_skirt -> leaf_bottomwear
implicate leaf_dress -> plant_dress
implicate leaf_dress -> leaf_clothing
implicate leaf_bikini -> bikini
implicate leaf_bikini -> leaf_clothing
implicate leaf_bikini -> plant_bikini
implicate grass_skirt -> plant
implicate grass_skirt -> plant_skirt
implicate floral_grass_skirt -> grass_skirt

After that: tagging something with (for example) grass_skirt would automatically add the tags plant_skirt, plant, plant_bottomwear, and plant_clothing. But it would not add the tags skirt, bottomwear, and clothing. That way, those tags wouldn't be missaplied to images with only pseudo_clothing.

What do you think? Should I go ahead and make that change to the BUR?

I'd follow how grass implies plant instead of leaf, for consistency.

Thanks, changed those two lines to:

  • implicate grass_skirt -> plant
  • implicate grass_skirt -> plant_skirt
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