Topic: cub->young cleanup

The bulk update request #6034 is pending approval.

Reason: cleanup of cub tags to turn them into young tags. Has some fixing up to do still. Feedback appreciated. Related: topic #38991, topic #41724

The bulk update request #6035 is active.

create alias cub_raped (0) -> young_raped (1136)
create alias cub_rape (0) -> young_rape (63)
create alias cub_raping_cub (0) -> young_raping_young (0)
create alias adult_raping_cub (0) -> adult_raping_young (0)
create implication adult_raping_young (0) -> young (278620)
create implication adult_raping_young (0) -> rape (55577)
create implication adult_raping_young (0) -> adult_on_young (16837)
create implication young_raping_young (0) -> young_raped (1136)
create implication young_raping_young (0) -> young_rape (63)
create implication young_raped (1136) -> rape (55577)
create implication young_raped (1136) -> young (278620)

Reason: continuation of BUR #6034 - tags to do with rape

EDIT: The bulk update request #6035 (forum #384172) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

catt0s said:
The bulk update request #6035 is active.

create alias cub_raped (0) -> young_raped (1136)
create alias cub_rape (0) -> young_rape (63)
create alias cub_raping_cub (0) -> young_raping_young (0)
create alias adult_raping_cub (0) -> adult_raping_young (0)
create implication adult_raping_young (0) -> young (278620)
create implication adult_raping_young (0) -> rape (55577)
create implication adult_raping_young (0) -> adult_on_young (16837)
create implication young_raping_young (0) -> young_raped (1136)
create implication young_raping_young (0) -> young_rape (63)
create implication young_raped (1136) -> rape (55577)
create implication young_raped (1136) -> young (278620)

Reason: continuation of BUR #6034 - tags to do with rape

Cleaned up cub_rape. A few didn't have young_anthro/feral tags.
cub_rape -young_rape -young_anthro -feral Done
cub_rape -young_anthro -feral Done
cub_rape -young_rape -young_feral -anthro Done
cub_rape -young_feral -anthro Done
cub_rape young_raped -young_on_young Because we just know someone confused *_rape and *_raped. post #3425644 has two couples, so it's adult_on_young, instead. Done
cub_rape -young_rape -young_on_young Redundant, will get fixed with alias.

Doing cub_raped, next.
cub_raped -young_raped -anthro -young_feral Done
cub_raped young_raped -anthro -young_feral Done - There was one young_humanoid.
cub_raped -young_raped -young_anthro -feral Done
cub_raped young_raped -feral -young_anthro Done
cub_raped young_rape -young_on_young Again, double-checking for mistagging. Done
cub_raped -young_raped -young_on_young Redundant, will get fixed with alias.

cub_raping_cub -young_raped Done
cub_raping_cub -young_rape Done
cub_raping_cub -anthro_raped/cub_raping_cub -young_anthro -feral Done
cub_raping_cub -feral_raped/cub_raping_cub -young_feral -anthro Done
cub_raping_cub -young_anthro -young_feral Should make sure no one tagged humanoid. Done.
The only results for any of the previous 5 lines was post #4204309 and post #4204352 and those aren't ferals. Already tagged those 2 earlier. Ah, yeah, those are the only 2 results for cub_raping_cub. This tag is dead.

adult_raping_cub -young_anthro All but those 2 feral posts were tagged young_anthro. Done
adult_raping_cub feral -young_feral Done

cub_raping_* -cub_raping_cub For completeness. Done

Adult raping young should probably also imply young raped and younger raped.

Still working on the first BUR (6034). Rest (6035) look good to go!

This thread touches on a thorny issue. Users see aliases as "legitimizing" tags, which is a fallacy but oh well. A lot of these tags do not yet have """staff blessing""". Some of them were started as one user's mindworm project, right? Notably, the entire x_raping_y / x_raping / y_raped class of tags does not have support. The point of this thread is delegitimizing or erasing cub as a tag concept from e621, so unrelated issues lock horns. Erasing cub should not mean other questionable tags are supported. Do with that what you will.

Personally, I think 80-90% of "new tags" that I see are bad or unnecessary, like most of the newer dominating tags. I don't care whether they serve a purpose. I do not support them. Domination and submission (and other BDSM behaviors and activities) have poor tagging and understanding from their active taggers as is, so I do not support spreading the rot. The domination and submission tags, like the soon to be aliased teenager tag, have much worse tagging than cub ever did. I'd rather active taggers get much better at understanding and using our more basic, longer-standing tags than see these users create new tags, of which their creators often do not well understand their own creations somehow. I have rants for days about similar tagging issues.

I don't think we need cross-category penetration tags.
also I think in general we're trying to avoid adding more x_<verb>_y tags beyond *_penetrating_*

The bulk update request #6035 (forum #384172) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

We're stuck in this transition where we're trying to turn x_on_child into x_on_young and child and so on, and yeah, there's just soooooo many set:cub_apocalypse posts to do. I've seen a lot of gender tags wrong recently from scripts, but it's rare enough that I just correct it as I go. Have to do that anyways, for the ones without young_feral and young_anthro. Annoyingly you also have young_humanoid mistagged. Saw one user tagging Lisa Simpson as cub (which hilariously got nuked so it was a moot point).

Tagging feels like an evolutionary process, at least at the moment.

Moved it down here so it's less confusing. XD

catt0s said:
The bulk update request #6034 is pending approval.

create alias cub_dominating_cub (0) -> young_dominating_young (139)
create alias cub_on_adult (1) -> adult_on_young (16837)
create alias older_on_cub (23) -> older_on_young (3033)
create alias dominant_cub (1) -> dominant_young (2934)
create alias larger_cub (3) -> larger_young (347)
create alias feral_cub (2) -> young_feral (24147)
create alias male_penetrating_cub (0) -> male_penetrating_young (8)
create alias human_penetrating_cub (0) -> human_penetrating_young (0)
create implication male_penetrating_young (8) -> young_penetrated (8942)
create implication male_penetrating_young (8) -> male_penetrating (598255)
create implication young_dominating_young (139) -> dominant_young (2934)
create implication young_dominating_young (139) -> young_on_young (11989)
create implication adult_on_young (16837) -> age_difference (82390) # duplicate of implication #50877
create implication adult_on_young (16837) -> young (278620) # duplicate of implication #53105
create implication older_on_young (3033) -> young (278620)
create implication older_on_young (3033) -> age_difference (82390)

Reason: cleanup of cub tags to turn them into young tags. Has some fixing up to do still. Feedback appreciated. Related: topic #38991, topic #41724

cub_dominating_cub -young_feral -anthro/cub_dominating_cub -feral -young_anthro Only remaining result is humanoid. Done

older_on_cub -set:cub_apocalypse These are all young anthro or humanoid. Done
older_on_cub set:cub_apocalypse -young_anthro -feral
older_on_cub set:cub_apocalypse -anthro -young_feral Only young_humanoid posts left. Done

dominant_cub -younger_dom_older_sub -young_dominating_young Young_dom_older_sub tag needs to get aliased to younger_dom_older_sub, right?
dominant_cub -young_anthro anthro/dominant_cub -young_feral feral/dominant_cub -young_feral feral -anthro Trying to get all combinations at same time. I _think_ they're done.
dominant_cub -young_anthro -feral/dominant_cub -young_feral -anthro Better results this way for tagging purposes. Adding humanoid and -humanoid to break it up makes it more manageable, too. Since last results are humanoid... Done

larger_cub -young_feral -anthro Only a young_humanoid post is left. Done
larger_cub -young_anthro -feral Same result. Done

male_penetrating_cub -young_feral -anthro Done
male_penetrating_cub -male_penetrating_feral -anthro Ugh, this tag. It makes no sense that it implies humansnon-ferals. Not sure what to do on it. Anyways, all 5 results are either humanoid or feral_on_feral. Done

male_penetrating_cub -young_anthro -feral Done
male_penetrating_cub -male_penetrating_anthro -feral Done

human_penetrating_cub -young_feral -young_anthro Done

Well, that looks like all of them!