Topic: *_(idw) tags

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

We don't need more duplicate character tags.
Regardless of it being mlp, or not (yeah it is, but that's beside the point), having half a dozen tags for the same character, and adding new ones at a rate anyone would find difficult to keep track of, is just absurd.

Don't believe the "half a dozen" number?
Here:
saddle_rager_(mlp)
fluttershy_(mlp)
flutterbat_(mlp)
fluttershy_(eg)
fluttershy_(idw)
flutterbat_(eg)

Not to mention people keep trying to add crap like "flutterguy" and "nightmare fluttershy" to the mix as well.

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Some yes, some no.

Keep:

  • fluttershy_(mlp) - Obvious
  • saddle_rager_(mlp) - Not technically fluttershy, but it is technically fluttershy... sort of...I don't know it's probably worth keeping considering there isn't really an alternative way to portray this character.

Mixed:

  • fluttershy_(eg) - Done for the humanized/anthrofied version so it can get the equestria_girls tag. Less important now that humans are out, but EQG has somewhat of a different style and is fairly disliked by a lot of people ...so it should probably stay, probably. On the other hand manually tagging them might be better anyways.

Feasible to remove:

  • flutterbat_(mlp) - I have mixed feelings about this. We have the bat_pony tag so I don't think this one is really necessary tbh, despite its high usage.
  • fluttershy_(idw) - This is unnecessary unless there is something specific about the idw version in some of the newer comics, but usually those have different names anyways.
  • flutterbat_(eg) - What is this I don't even.
  • flutterguy - Pass.

I think many of these end up getting added because they are actually legit over on derpibooru and they ended up getting added here because of that. Unfortunately I don't think there's much we can do other than sort them manually as they come in and avoid legitimizing new ones.

Edit: If it wasn't obvious, I'm generally supportive of consolidating most of these characters, as long as we do so carefully.

FatherOfGray said:
What does idw stand for?

AFAIK it doesn't stand for anything interesting, but you can categorize it in the same place that you would put Marvel or DC Comics.

Oh, but most importantly they are the company that makes the official MLP comics.

Updated by anonymous

I'm not really trying to open the can of worms that would be consolidating the existing tags.
My issue is the spontaneous creation of new ones, when they aren't needed, and haven't been discussed.
No one has created a thread regarding the idw tags, they just started tagging them.

On top of that, there's no discernible difference between the comic, and tv show characters.

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Halite said:
I'm not really trying to open the can of worms that would be consolidating the existing tags.
My issue is the spontaneous creation of new ones, when they aren't needed, and haven't been discussed.
No one has created a thread regarding the idw tags, they just started tagging them.

On top of that, there's no discernible difference between the comic, and tv show characters.

I'll keep my eyes open for new ones then.

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I'd help, but having had MLP blacklisted all these years doesn't leave me with enough information to make a valid verdict.

I agree with the gist of it tho, seems a bit excessive with all those names.
Couldn't one simply use bat_pony + fluttershy if one wanted to find "flutterbat" posts?

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Peekaboo said:
I'd help, but having had MLP blacklisted all these years doesn't leave me with enough information to make a valid verdict.

I agree with the gist of it tho, seems a bit excessive with all those names.
Couldn't one simply use bat_pony + fluttershy if one wanted to find "flutterbat" posts?

"Flutterbat" is a canon name and she is the first (and only) canon bat pony in the series, which is why they got tagged that way. That being said, I don't see much reason to keep it.

I think consolidating the "admin approved" names might need it's own thread and discussion though. I don't fancy bringing subjects like pinkamena_(mlp) back up and derailing what should be a simple cleanup.

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parasprite said:
"Flutterbat" is a canon name ...

That's somewhat debatable, the "name" is used once, in a joking context.
But, again, that's been discussed, and brought up before.
Not something I want to deal with again.

As to the topic of the thread, I just don't see any real taggable difference between regular, and "idw" characters.

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Just so that everyone is on the same page (for people unfamiliar with the show/comics) there are a set of characters who are normally antagonistic in the main show who have alternate personalities in the "mirror world" in the comics.

post #526543

For example, these characters are all normally depicted as being (top row) mean/impatient, foolish/silly, emotionless, (bottom row) boastful/arrogant, cruel/evil, cynical/mistrustful. There are probably other examples of this, but I'm not that familiar with them.

It is something that is probably distinct enough to actually tag visually, but whether making the distinction matters for tagging is essentially what we are discussing.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Hm. Some boorus use tags like personality_switch for that, but I'm not sure if it's entirely compatible with twys.

(Danbooru definition of the tag: "Post containing characters whose personalities have clearly been switched.")

In any case, I definitely agree with Halite: these *_(idw) tags aren't needed. But some kind of alternate persona tag might have potential..

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parasprite said:
Just so that everyone is on the same page (for people unfamiliar with the show/comics) there are a set of characters who are normally antagonistic in the main show who have alternate personalities in the "mirror world" in the comics.

post #526543

For example, these characters are all normally depicted as being (top row) mean/impatient, foolish/silly, emotionless, (bottom row) boastful/arrogant, cruel/evil, cynical/mistrustful. There are probably other examples of this, but I'm not that familiar with them.

It is something that is probably distinct enough to actually tag visually, but whether making the distinction matters for tagging is essentially what we are discussing.

Except that's not how they're always portrayed in the comics, and a 4 book story arc doesn't really qualify as new character.
So declaring that the mirror world derpy = derpy_(idw) isn't even accurate, since there's more comics with her as the normal version of derpy.
The same being true for the rest of them as well.

Finding a way to tag the mirror world effect, or something similar would make sense, new character tags doesn't.

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