Topic: [APPROVED] latex: TF, goo, living, etc.

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #5128 is active.

create implication latex_transformation (1181) -> transformation (78498)
create implication latex_transformation (1181) -> latex (57684)
change category living_latex (2826) -> species

Reason: Related: living_latex
This BUR is VERY alpha, and may be wrong. However, I would like to discuss the following:

I would also like to hear opinions on the usage of latex_transformation:
- Is latex_transformation to broad/specific? latex_bodysuit and latex_skinsuit exist.
- Should latex_transformation be related to goo_transformation?
- Should latex_transformation imply

My opinion: latex_transformation is too broad. It is used for latex suiting, latex goo transformation, and more. Sorting latex_transformation into different subtypes makes sense to me.

EDIT: The bulk update request #5128 (forum #369326) has been approved by @slyroon.

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catt0s_0fthenight said:
The bulk update request #5128 is active.

create implication latex_transformation (1181) -> transformation (78498)
create implication latex_transformation (1181) -> latex (57684)
change category living_latex (2826) -> species

Reason: Related: living_latex
This BUR is VERY alpha, and may be wrong. However, I would like to discuss the following:

I would also like to hear opinions on the usage of latex_transformation:
- Is latex_transformation to broad/specific? latex_bodysuit and latex_skinsuit exist.
- Should latex_transformation be related to goo_transformation?
- Should latex_transformation imply

My opinion: latex_transformation is too broad. It is used for latex suiting, latex goo transformation, and more. Sorting latex_transformation into different subtypes makes sense to me.

I am gonna oppose just for "create alias latex_goo (20) -> goo_(disambiguation) (198)"

Once the posts are moved to goo_(disambiguation), one of two things will happen: the posts will end up becoming tagged as living_latex or slime, the latter of which is borked.

Normally, I wouldn't complain because clearly this tag has multiple meanings and tags with multiple meanings are usually invalidated, but slime is an atrocious catch-all tag which is impossible to search properly. This is a melting pot already, and this bur is only going to make it worse. At this point in time, it would be better honestly to enforce latex_goo as just the goo left behind by living_latex creatures to make it unique in purpose.

If you remove just that single line I'm swapping it with an upvote because there are no problem with the other lines.

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We shot down this topic over in the Latex BUR for the change of living_latex to a species_tag. (The two implications are fine) There is already latex_creature as a species tag and we wanted to keep living_latex as a general tag.

Here is a copy from my take on the difference living_latex/latex_creature in the Latex BUR:
living_latex should remain its own thing. I like to imagine the difference between latex_creature and living_latex like the difference between tentacle_creature and tentacles. The _creature tag requires a body to be visible, while tentacles only need to show the extremities. Living latex can show movement on its own without having a real body. Maybe a puddle of liquid latex moves on its own, a larger ball of latex encasing a victim or straight up a tentacle out of liquid latex being featured. The last part in particular reminded me of the tentacle_creature/tentacles difference, so we can apply this logic here as well.

Another good comparison is the implication from robot to machine. The former a species tag, the latter a general one.

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demonthedarkhound said:
We shot down this topic over in the Latex BUR for the change of living_latex to a species_tag. (The two implications are fine) There is already latex_creature as a species tag and we wanted to keep living_latex as a general tag.

Here is a copy from my take on the difference living_latex/latex_creature in the Latex BUR:
living_latex should remain its own thing. I like to imagine the difference between latex_creature and living_latex like the difference between tentacle_creature and tentacles. The _creature tag requires a body to be visible, while tentacles only need to show the extremities. Living latex can show movement on its own without having a real body. Maybe a puddle of liquid latex moves on its own, a larger ball of latex encasing a victim or straight up a tentacle out of liquid latex being featured. The last part in particular reminded me of the tentacle_creature/tentacles difference, so we can apply this logic here as well.

Another good comparison is the implication from robot to machine. The former a species tag, the latter a general one.

Funnily enough, That post had this alias "create alias latex_goo (3) -> liquid_latex (1395)" which was comparatively better than the one here.

I reckon we're done here, the latex tags will no more be a problem for anybody.

sipothac said:
is this transformation into latex or transformation caused by latex?

Caused by latex I would say. Transformations into a latex_creature are usually tagged latex_transformation in combination with something like inflatable_transformation, assimilation, dronification or simply species_transformation to indicate what they transform into.
Occasional mistagging when just encasement is involved, but no real transformation.

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