The tag implication #51244 lucky_pierre -> penetrating_while_penetrated is pending approval.

Reason: It is a requirement for the tag to apply.

I was about to make this tag implication myself, but I can now see that it was already made. Unfortunately it's been pending for nearly a year and a half...

My reasoning would've been as, follows.

Lucky Pierre refers to the person in the middle position of a threesome, or even foursome. To achieve this, they must simultaneously be penetrated by the person behind them and penetrating the person in front of them, or in the case of foursomes, being penetrated from the front and back while penetrating the person below or above them."
- Lucky Pierre's wiki page.

By default, any Lucky Pierre picture would involve penetration while being penetrated.

Lucky Pierre is a terrible tag name. It's completely non-obvious what it means, and sounds like it's some kind of character or artist name.

should this just be an alias?

i also think this needs to be an alias

The bulk update request #9796 is pending approval.

remove implication totem_pole_position (94) -> lucky_pierre (1484)
create implication totem_pole_position (94) -> penetrating_while_penetrated (1042)

Reason: alias
(blocked transitive is the OP) my b i didn't realize this had an implication

That's not the only transitive
Also does the tag cover only characters penetratng characters, or does it also include being penetrated by/penetrating an object

snpthecat said:
That's not the only transitive
Also does the tag cover only characters penetratng characters, or does it also include being penetrated by/penetrating an object

The definition of Lucky Pierre involves 3 or more people. If you look for "lucky_pierre duo", you get like 30 results of the 1500+, most of which do involve more than 2 characters. Lucky Pierre does not cover penetrated/penetrating with an object.

amaster said:
The definition of Lucky Pierre involves 3 or more people. If you look for "lucky_pierre duo", you get like 30 results of the 1500+, most of which do involve more than 2 characters. Lucky Pierre does not cover penetrated/penetrating with an object.

I'm asking about penetrating_while_penetrated. It's ambiguous about what kinds of penetration it covers (for example penetrating an object is strictly not penetration) (would fingering someone else whilst being fingered yourself count? (if you argue fingering isn't penetration (it can be) then replace fingering with fisting))

My unprofessional opinion is that it should include strapons at the very least.

snpthecat said:
I'm asking about penetrating_while_penetrated. It's ambiguous about what kinds of penetration it covers (for example penetrating an object is strictly not penetration) (would fingering someone else whilst being fingered yourself count? (if you argue fingering isn't penetration (it can be) then replace fingering with fisting))

I'd say it should only apply to any "hip-to-butt"-type situations, i.e. penis/pseudo-peen/strapon into vagina/anus. kinda like how autopenetration tends to be used (although, autofisting implies that, apparently, which feels wrong to me).

snpthecat said:
I'm asking about penetrating_while_penetrated. It's ambiguous about what kinds of penetration it covers (for example penetrating an object is strictly not penetration) (would fingering someone else whilst being fingered yourself count? (if you argue fingering isn't penetration (it can be) then replace fingering with fisting))

Doesn't seem like a very useful tag. Just searching up train_position and similar tags will net you results that is relevant if one likes that kind of genre of porn, which is what is probably being searched for when searching for art where a character is penetrating and being penetrated at the same time. Those tags would also cover 99%, maybe even 100% cases of lucky pierre too- I feel like the tag stems from that genre of porn.

dinbyy said:
Doesn't seem like a very useful tag. Just searching up train_position and similar tags will net you results that is relevant if one likes that kind of genre of porn, which is what is probably being searched for when searching for art where a character is penetrating and being penetrated at the same time. Those tags would also cover 99%, maybe even 100% cases of lucky pierre too- I feel like the tag stems from that genre of porn.

train_position the wiki does state that some positions including oral is fine, but should that be lumped in with all the other tags that have penile penetration?

snpthecat said:
I'm asking about penetrating_while_penetrated. It's ambiguous about what kinds of penetration it covers (for example penetrating an object is strictly not penetration) (would fingering someone else whilst being fingered yourself count? (if you argue fingering isn't penetration (it can be) then replace fingering with fisting))

I've been tagging with the tag quite a bit lately, and I've just been doing a wide variety of things. Lucky pierre, buttplug while penetrating, dildo while penetrating, pegging while penetrating, MMM train positions, MMF train positions, recieving oral while penetrated, etc.