Topic: [APPROVED] it is time to banish girly to the shadow realm

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

dba_afish said:
except e6 dosn't have external advertisers, really. all of the ads are hosted by Dragon Fruit themselves. and if, hypothetically, advertisers were going to pull out, I don't think it'd be because of our tag names...

also, like what the fuck are you even talking about? nothing has even changed. femboy still has the exact same definition as it did before the name was changed, girly still works exactly the same as a search term. the only thing that's changed is that the tag has a different name and maybe people will mistag it on female characters less.

"As you can see, a few omissions have been made.

girly can't simply be aliased back to femboy. Since the whole issue here is the ambiguity of the term, we will be left with the same issue if we do that, as people who input a tag without checking its wiki/checking its aliases will still end up using the girly tag to tag feminine female/herm/gynomorph characters.
feminine, femenine, girlie, and girly_body seem to be the same thing, and likely can't be aliased back to femboy. Whatever ends up being done with girly will probably need to be done with these as well. These are also likely partly responsible for the current mess; people will tag something like "feminine" on their very feminine female character and end up tagging it as girly because they didn't check the wiki or aliases first.
femme, femmy - According to Urban Dictionary, the term "femme" seems to primarily refer to a feminine lesbian - as opposed to a "butch", a masculine lesbian. That makes this a doubly bad alias (which was also created a long time ago with no apparent discussion [furthermore by a user who was permanently banned 12 years ago with a very entertaining ban reason]), so aliasing this back to femboy would probably not be wise."
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Re to initial post of this:
Need I say that Urban Dictionary is made by user bases, including trolls, and people with biases, and opinionated articles. Urban dictionary should not be trusted as it is NOT a reputable source.
If you were to search the term "furry" on urban dictionary you would get many, non reputable, and many refutable and debated results. It should be seen as refutable, not reputable.

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Dbafish: "What the fuck are you even talking about? Nothing has even changed. Femboy still has the exact same definition as it did before the name was changed, girly still works exactly the same as a search term."
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"girly can't simply be aliased back to femboy"
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Girly isn't about ambiguity, yes, it can be applied to ambiguous characters but it also really should also apply to male characters two, in cases such as sissification, or posts where it literally is "tag what you see", if you see a male, who is girly, you are to tag it as such.
Girly isn't gender restricted or gender specific. It is an term for feminine traits on ANY gender. Girly can apply to males as it can to females.
The reason is simple: Not all girls, and not all boys, are girly.
You would tag an feminine male as girly, just as you would an female who is abnormally feminine, to the point of bordering on dainty.

It is a body preference first, a gender preference hard 2nd.
So do I need to play 20 questions or do you just not wanna accept hard facts and keep questioning logic & reason?

It sounds almost like you have an emotional bias, honestly...

Donovan DMC

Former Staff

akros_the_speeddemon said:
this just seems like a way to be politically correct so advertisers who "took offense" get their cake and can eat it two... Every old tag that was relevant is being phased out because e621 THINKS people are taking offense to it.
Meanwhile veteran users like me are like: "Where did this post go? Where did this post go? Where did THIS post go?" because tags are being entirely censored, phased out, and rewritten. My objection is
not only is this confusing, but is the opposite of user friendly, for obvious reasons.

What a nice crackpot conspiracy theory. Our advertising is done by our parent company, they don't care about our tags. None of our tags have or will be changed for advertising. We have literal nazi shit on here.

We also aren't censoring tags. Again, we have literal nazi shit on here. You'll also find that girly is aliased to femboy, so zero of the posts under girly have disappeared.

donovan_dmc said:
What a nice crackpot conspiracy theory. Our advertising is done by our parent company, they don't care about our tags. None of our tags have or will be changed for advertising. We have literal nazi shit on here.

We also aren't censoring tags. Again, we have literal nazi shit on here. You'll also find that girly is aliased to femboy, so zero of the posts under girly have disappeared.

I'm not even going to follow this up with a response as crackpot is just a derogatory term meant to disrespect people... I have revised this on page 2, I'm not having this discussion if insults are going to be thrown my way

akros_the_speeddemon said:
I'm not even going to follow this up with a response as crackpot is just a derogatory term meant to disrespect people... I have revised this on page 2, I'm not having this discussion if insults are going to be thrown my way

lmao.

akros_the_speeddemon said:
"As you can see, a few omissions have been made.

girly can't simply be aliased back to femboy. Since the whole issue here is the ambiguity of the term, we will be left with the same issue if we do that, as people who input a tag without checking its wiki/checking its aliases will still end up using the girly tag to tag feminine female/herm/gynomorph characters.
feminine, femenine, girlie, and girly_body seem to be the same thing, and likely can't be aliased back to femboy. Whatever ends up being done with girly will probably need to be done with these as well. These are also likely partly responsible for the current mess; people will tag something like "feminine" on their very feminine female character and end up tagging it as girly because they didn't check the wiki or aliases first.
femme, femmy - According to Urban Dictionary, the term "femme" seems to primarily refer to a feminine lesbian - as opposed to a "butch", a masculine lesbian. That makes this a doubly bad alias (which was also created a long time ago with no apparent discussion [furthermore by a user who was permanently banned 12 years ago with a very entertaining ban reason]), so aliasing this back to femboy would probably not be wise."
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Re to initial post of this:
Need I say that Urban Dictionary is made by user bases, including trolls, and people with biases, and opinionated articles. Urban dictionary should not be trusted as it is NOT a reputable source.
If you were to search the term "furry" on urban dictionary you would get many, non reputable, and many refutable and debated results. It should be seen as refutable, not reputable.

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Dbafish: "What the fuck are you even talking about? Nothing has even changed. Femboy still has the exact same definition as it did before the name was changed, girly still works exactly the same as a search term."
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Article:
"girly can't simply be aliased back to femboy"
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Girly isn't about ambiguity, yes, it can be applied to ambiguous characters but it also really should also apply to male characters two, in cases such as sissification, or posts where it literally is "tag what you see", if you see a male, who is girly, you are to tag it as such.
Girly isn't gender restricted or gender specific. It is an term for feminine traits on ANY gender. Girly can apply to males as it can to females.
The reason is simple: Not all girls, and not all boys, are girly.
You would tag an feminine male as girly, just as you would an female who is abnormally feminine, to the point of bordering on dainty.

It is a body preference first, a gender preference hard 2nd.
So do I need to play 20 questions or do you just not wanna accept hard facts and keep questioning logic & reason?

It sounds almost like you have an emotional bias, honestly...

I have really no idea what you’re on about. This is incoherent.

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