It's only technical. Not factual or realistic. It's a art archive that holds porn. A site to see porn. A porn site. If it's technical then it's subjective and we got to express both our opinions. yay.

anthony1991 said:
It's only technical. Not factual or realistic. It's a art archive that holds porn. A site to see porn. A porn site. If it's technical then it's subjective and we got to express both our opinions. yay.

Internet holds porn.
People go on the internet to see porn.

Internet is a porn distribution network.

cinder said:
Internet holds porn.
People go on the internet to see porn.

Internet is a porn distribution network.

yesh

anthony1991 said:
You started the dogpile already.
And please not guy. It's not my pronoun.
Or himself*.

is this a troll? this is a troll.
you don't have your pronouns listed in a bio, so with the name "Anthony1991" I think it's a bit weird to get uppity when someone calls you "guy" or "himself". and then you don't even actually correct the mistake just "not my pronoun" like we're playing a game of 20 questions.

anthony1991 said:
yesh

Good, we agree on something.

So, in your opinion, since all of Internet is dedicated to porn, then none of the Internet sites are allowed to moderate user comments?
After all, as you said before, moderation on porn sites violates your civil rights.

cinder said:
Good, we agree on something.

So, in your opinion, since all of Internet is dedicated to porn, then none of the Internet sites are allowed to moderate user comments?
After all, as you said before, moderation on porn sites violates your civil rights.

cinder said:
Good, we agree on something.

So, in your opinion, since all of Internet is dedicated to porn, then none of the Internet sites are allowed to moderate user comments?
After all, as you said before, moderation on porn sites violates your civil rights.

I like to find something to agree with everyone.
I said a lot of things.
Not sure why we want to focus on civil rights and moderation when, it doesn't make sense to say something sexual about a sexual picture. And be punished for it.
I'm not really feeling comfortable answering your question's. Your actions have led me to not really trust you.
The fact that we started a dogpile on me and find it entertaining to ridicule... Why would I answer anything you ask me?
It's obvious your really buddy-buddy with the admin and lots of folks on here. Good for you.
Why would I even give you the privilege of that? You haven't really earned it from me. Other people may give it to you give in willingly but I won't to someone who doesn't even follow their own code of conduct.
It's pretty much going to happen: You'll get away scott free, And I'll get banned.
I made people uncomfortable. Everyone does. I'm sorry for for that, and commenting something sexual about sexual content. mb. See you never, sense I'll get banned.

Sure I have a bad record over 14 years. But letting that be predominant as a factor in a conversation that really has nothing to do with my personality changes or the fact that, yes I've said some really awful things, I'm willing to accept all that and turn it around and make myself a better person.
The fact you wish not to see that in others. It's sad. I don't like it, and I don't wish to interact with you, period, maybe until you can do the right thing.

But I will not stop myself from expressing myself even I have to be reticuled for it.
I have legit feelings and thoughts just like everyone else here. I tried to give you plenty of chances.
I dislike people who abuse authority and power. and it's obvious that you're just that.
You wanna know what I do to those people? I walk away from them.

At least I can admit when I'm wrong. I can be sorry.
You just can't seem to even notice or do that... You can't even do that for others. I hope you can at least, do it for yourself. if you can't do it for others who have been reticuled, offended, or has legit concerns and difficult emotions like me, how are you even a mod?
No, you instead choose to, do and say all the things you did.
And not even care, or notice why, saying what's being said, by me or even yourself, or the others who have joined in on the "fun". No one even cared or extended that expectation of being comfortable to me... Out of all people here, I'd hope a MOD could. Not do more damage.

I'm being called troll when I'm asking politely to not use he/him pronouns. Your not even addressing that. You not even addressing ANY OF IT, Not just that. You nit-pick what you can control and what you know and understand because it's easier for you. We all do that. Why don't you try harder?
Follow your code. Don't be an oath breaker.

Does all this sound like something someone is having a meltdown? Absolutely not. I'am not even lucid when I have my meltdowns, we all have them, I can't even function, because I've been abused many, many times in many ways. I spent 10 years with a covert narcissist, and me being an empath. Has done much damage.
I lost my career with the military's. I broke my promise to make things better, because I couldn't stay in, because I was struggling with suicide among numerous many things. Like being isolated. And that's what's exactly what's happening right now.
You are isolating me. I could even add gaslighting.
I've been under bad leadership who isolates people like me, because they don't want queer folks fucking up their system.
There are good people in there, just not enough. There was a Colonel, in the medical field, that asked me if I was in transition... It's lucky there are even people that care and notice in the military.. Most of them are Chaplin's.

kora_viridian said:
The popcorn isn't doing it anymore; gotta switch to something stronger.

post #1726641

Sigh... sorry. I also need to sedate myself.
Escapism is fun.

beat120 said:
I sincerely do not believe whoever uploaded the image intended for users to get in trouble, but punishing users for responding in a way that was more-or-less invited by the post had is akin to arresting someone at a bar for public intoxication because they simply got drunk.

This tbh

mathewbarn said:
...it seems to me like 4 users have been banned for breaking a rule that does not exist.

That is absolutely what happened, and they aren't shy to admit to discrimination, despite site ownership by a zoo.

tinydogtreat said:
https://e621.net/users/1272595
Ban reason: Being zoo entirely fucking elsewhere on the internet.
THE STATED BAN REASON
IS
A TWITTER LINK.

Can't make this shit up. Go ahead and explain to me where the rules cover off-site behavior, I dare you. Would be a pretty interesting to hear that modding the site officially requires cyberstalking.

This is especially damning, but they won't address this in any way, since they know it's indefensible and thus a lost cause. All they can do is sweep it under the rug.

anthony1991 said:
I'am not even lucid when I have my meltdowns, we all have them, I can't even function, because I've been abused many, many times in many ways

No, not everyone has meltdowns. Most people are not going to relate or know what that really looks like. To the people you are talking to it's just something to make fun of, because furries are a very insecure creature that likes to take any sort of real or imagined height to punch down from.
Looking at what you got warned for, they also seem to have invented a sex-negative porn site somehow I guess.

fantasy_zoo said:
*snip*

that's a real interesting account creation date y'got there, just a few hours after that other ban evade account got banned

What would and what would not be considered extreme real-life violence?

I find that sections 1.1 and 1.5 are not sufficiently enforced (some users spread hate and malicious rumors about others in comments, people refuse to use blacklist, and instead repeatedly comment what they hate about the artwork.)

Meanwhile, 1.6 is overly strict and harshly enforced (Users can create very NSFW artwork, including graphic detailed descriptions of sexual acts, violence, gore etc., but god forbid someone post a "creepy" comment on the same post)

Do not mention any actions of suicide, self harm / mutilation, depression-induced pain, or other malicious acts directed towards the self.

"Depression-induced pain" seems unclear to me. Does it mean the pain caused by self harm?

hjfduitloxtrds said:

I find that sections 1.1 and 1.5 are not sufficiently enforced (some users spread hate and malicious rumors about others in comments, people refuse to use blacklist, and instead repeatedly comment what they hate about the artwork.)

1.1 Disruptive Behavior

e621 is an open and friendly community that people visit to share and enjoy furry artwork.
People can have different opinions and are free to state them, but that does not allow them to make someone else feel uncomfortable or unwanted.

* Do not make messages with the apparent purpose of upsetting someone. That includes picking fights, baiting arguments, calling names, or making remarks regarding personal grievances, quarrels, or malicious rumors.
* Do not purposefully spread false or defamatory information.
* Do not mention any actions of suicide, self harm / mutilation, depression-induced pain, or other malicious acts directed towards the self.
* Do not encourage other users to engage in harmful behaviors, including suicide, eating disorders, or other forms of self harm.
* Do not give other users medical or veterinary advice that could result in harm coming to them or their pets.
* Do not promote ideologies harmful to public safety.
* Do not brag about saving DNP or pirated material, and do not encourage others to do so.
* Do not try to impersonate others, including users, artists, public figures, staff members, or Bad Dragon employees.
* Do not demand that certain administrative actions be taken against another user. Do not indicate personal influence over staff decisions.
* Do not disobey any direct instructions made by a staff member or a Bad Dragon employee.

1.5 Refusal to Use Blacklist

This site hosts a wide variety of content, and not all of it may appeal to everyone.

* Do not complain about image and video content that could be blacklisted. Simply add the corresponding tag to your blacklist. If you believe that a post is missing a valid tag, you should add the tag yourself.
* Do not make messages announcing that you have blacklisted a specific tag or certain kinds of content.

Meanwhile, 1.6 is overly strict and harshly enforced (Users can create very NSFW artwork, including graphic detailed descriptions of sexual acts, violence, gore etc., but god forbid someone post a "creepy" comment on the same post)

1.6 Inappropriate Comments

Everyone who browses the website has the right, within realistic expectations, to not encounter sexualized comments that may make them uncomfortable.

* Do not create messages that share explicit details about sexual encounters, fantasies, fetishes, or actions.
* Do not create comments that exceed the post's rating.

You may find a few detailed examples here.

yeah thats what i dont get

like the site's comfortable hosting cub porn but not hosting comments about people being into the cub porn?

like I do use the blacklist and all, but like it feels like a double standard to have content considered controversial yet want to be so clean in terms of its text basis

it's kinda wild to me that there are complaints about the comment policy, it's like saying "yes, I would like more shitposty bullshit in the comments, please."

sipothac said:
it's kinda wild to me that there are complaints about the comment policy, it's like saying "yes, I would like more shitposty bullshit in the comments, please."

i mean just feels weirdly arbitrary in my opinion

i mean the things that ive seen people get banned over feel like nothing in comparison to the sort of content hosted on the site that is allowed

edit: what about some sort of comment blacklist i mean if the content is objectionable, i mean that's hwo it is about other objetionable content that exists on the site

thebestdoe said:
i mean just feels weirdly arbitrary in my opinion

i mean the things that ive seen people get banned over feel like nothing in comparison to the sort of content hosted on the site that is allowed

edit: what about some sort of comment blacklist i mean if the content is objectionable, i mean that's hwo it is about other objetionable content that exists on the site

The art in a museum, or a movie in a theatre with sexual themes will always be on a different plane than the viewers and the conversations between them. If you keep telling the person in the seat next to you how much this scene turns you on, the usher will escort you out.

More or less, people want to enjoy their content without being bombarded by the sexual fantasies of others.

rainbow_dash said:
The art in a museum, or a movie in a theatre with sexual themes will always be on a different plane than the viewers and the conversations between them. If you keep telling the person in the seat next to you how much this scene turns you on, the usher will escort you out.

More or less, people want to enjoy their content without being bombarded by the sexual fantasies of others.

I mean I guess that makes sense as e6 is a wholistic image board that just happens to feature pornography, I just happen to come here for said pornography and thus kinda feel weirded out when people are being conservative but I'm sure plenty of people use it as a genuine image board that would be turned off by such comments.

So the rule is that we have to act like its a sfw site, because in a sense it is?

thebestdoe said:
yeah thats what i dont get

like the site's comfortable hosting cub porn but not hosting comments about people being into the cub porn?

like I do use the blacklist and all, but like it feels like a double standard to have content considered controversial yet want to be so clean in terms of its text basis

ikr that's what I've been saying. It's like the actual art is X rated but the comments have to be PG. I just can't make sense of it

thebestdoe said:
i mean just feels weirdly arbitrary in my opinion

i mean the things that ive seen people get banned over feel like nothing in comparison to the sort of content hosted on the site that is allowed

edit: what about some sort of comment blacklist i mean if the content is objectionable, i mean that's hwo it is about other objetionable content that exists on the site

^I second this. Why not a blacklist that blocks certain comments for those who don't want to see them?

thebestdoe said:
So the rule is that we have to act like its a sfw site, because in a sense it is?

hjfduitloxtrds said:
ikr that's what I've been saying. It's like the actual art is X rated but the comments have to be PG. I just can't make sense of it

You can say a cock looks sexy, and you can say you like the cub porn some artist makes. But we don't want to read about how hard it makes you, or how it reminds you of the time you got a handy in school, or how you want a character to sit on your face.

rainbow_dash said:
The art in a museum, or a movie in a theatre with sexual themes will always be on a different plane than the viewers and the conversations between them. If you keep telling the person in the seat next to you how much this scene turns you on, the usher will escort you out.

More or less, people want to enjoy their content without being bombarded by the sexual fantasies of others.

Its just, I mean I'm going to take my friend with to the movie theater and they already know I'm going to make pornographic sexualized comments already because they already know I do things like that. I'm not going to be sitting next to some stranger in a sticky, smelly, stinky old disgusting movie theater and whispering nasty comments to them. I vaguely see the similarities between that and leaving dirty comments on here.

All things considered, while I disagree with this specific rule, I agree to abide by it.

hjfduitloxtrds said:
Its just, I mean I'm going to take my friend with to the movie theater and they already know I'm going to make pornographic sexualized comments already because they already know I do things like that. I'm not going to be sitting next to some stranger in a sticky, smelly, stinky old disgusting movie theater and whispering nasty comments to them. I vaguely see the similarities between that and leaving dirty comments on here.

All things considered, while I disagree with this specific rule, I agree to abide by it.

See, but the other commenters are not your friend you took with. Just like on the site, they are random people you don't know, who are also just trying to enjoy the content.

The reason the theater comparison fails for me is that the comment section is optional. You scroll down to the comments if you want to see what people are saying about the picture. If you speak in a theater, you are directly interfering with the other people who are watching; they cannot easily filter your noises out while still hearing the movie. I just checked the account settings and there is indeed a toggle that lets you hide the comments entirely if all you want to do is look at pictures.
What would make the most sense to me is if comments have the same rating as the submission itself. So you can't make a sexual comment about a safe drawing, but you can do it on an explicit drawing. Since the current rules feel rather strict, I rarely write any comments.

Thread's locked, if you wish to discuss the CoC please use the new thread here.