Topic: General Sonic BURs

The bulk update request #4113 is active.

Reason: These are all objects, places and concepts from Sonic.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4113 (forum #357202) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

The bulk update request #4114 has been rejected.

Reason: The different wisps should imply the main wisp species tag, like the chao tags do 🙂 Hopefully I got them all

Edit: Added missing wisps, added alias from jade wisp to ghost wisp to match the other wisps.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4114 (forum #357204) has failed: Error: Antecedent tag must not be aliased to another tag (create implication cube_wisp -> wisp_(sonic))

EDIT: The bulk update request #4114 (forum #357204) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

The bulk update request #4118 is active.

create implication sonic_frontiers (249) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)
create implication sonic_prime (447) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)
mass update sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) (35) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(comics) (23287)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(ova) (52) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)
create implication sonic_colors (47) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)

Reason: Parts of the series should imply the series. Because the Sonic Manga is a comic, it should imply the comics tag. I only included entries with unique elements here since I noticed a lot of other things are aliased to the main tag.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4118 (forum #357248) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

naughtyclaws said:
The bulk update request #4118 is active.

create implication sonic_frontiers (249) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)
create implication sonic_prime (447) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)
mass update sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) (35) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(comics) (23287)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(ova) (52) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)
create implication sonic_colors (47) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (138274)

Reason: Parts of the series should imply the series. Because the Sonic Manga is a comic, it should imply the comics tag. I only included entries with unique elements here since I noticed a lot of other things are aliased to the main tag.

These probably should be aliased instead. Is there a reason they should be kept as separate tags? sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) is also pretty generic; which manga? Since manga literally means comic, it could refer to any Sonic comic.

watsit said:
These probably should be aliased instead. Is there a reason they should be kept as separate tags? sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) is also pretty generic; which manga? Since manga literally means comic, it could refer to any Sonic comic.

But why? Things like sonic_shuffle aren't. Nearly all of these have unique characters.

As for the manga, I agree, I personally would change it to sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) since that's the publisher. I can edit the BUR to that?

naughtyclaws said:
But why? Things like sonic_shuffle aren't. Nearly all of these have unique characters.

Honestly, it's all pretty messy about when entries are aliased to a series and when they're left separate. To make it more confusing, some series have some entries aliased away and not others, with no apparent reason (e.g. super_mario_bros_3 is aliased away, but not super_mario_3d_world; super_mario_64 is aliased away, but not super_mario_galaxy; super_mario_sunshine is aliased away, but not super_mario_odyssey). But the rule of thumb I generally go by is if you can look at drawings depicting that entry's setting, and generally identify it as that entry (excluding any characters since they can always appear in other games, or art style since different artists can apply their own style to the drawing), it may be worth keeping a separate tag. As far as I know, I don't think the different Sonic games are all that distinguishable from each other like that, much like Pokemon.

naughtyclaws said:
As for the manga, I agree, I personally would change it to sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) since that's the publisher. I can edit the BUR to that?

The series name or publisher would make sense, which would follow the sonic_the_hedgehog_(archie) and sonic_the_hedgehog_(idw) precedent.

watsit said:
Honestly, it's all pretty messy about when entries are aliased to a series and when they're left separate. To make it more confusing, some series have some entries aliased away and not others, with no apparent reason (e.g. super_mario_bros_3 is aliased away, but not super_mario_3d_world; super_mario_64 is aliased away, but not super_mario_galaxy; super_mario_sunshine is aliased away, but not super_mario_odyssey). But the rule of thumb I generally go by is if you can look at drawings depicting that entry's setting, and generally identify it as that entry (excluding any characters since they can always appear in other games, or art style since different artists can apply their own style to the drawing), it may be worth keeping a separate tag. As far as I know, I don't think the different Sonic games are all that distinguishable from each other like that, much like Pokemon.

The series name or publisher would make sense, which would follow the sonic_the_hedgehog_(archie) and sonic_the_hedgehog_(idw) precedent.

I think sonic_origins and sonic_runners can probably alias instead, but I think the others have enough merit to remain separate, IMO. Sonic Colors introduced the wisps and has a lot of iconic stages, and Frontiers is well, Frontiers. A bulk of what's in it is completely new and only the Cyber Space levels really work like traditional Sonic.

The others aren't games but other franchise stuff. Prime is a cartoon that has a bunch of alternate universes, for example.

I'll update the BUR for the manga, and I'll leave off Origins and Runners for now. Origins should probably alias to Classic Sonic, though.

The bulk update request #4118 (forum #357248) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

The bulk update request #4113 (forum #357202) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

The bulk update request #4114 (forum #357204) has failed: Error: Antecedent tag must not be aliased to another tag (create implication cube_wisp -> wisp_(sonic))

The bulk update request #4114 (forum #357204) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.