Topic: General Sonic BURs

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #4113 is active.

create implication piko_piko_hammer (556) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication star_post (6) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication green_hill_zone (264) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication ring_(sonic) (229) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication chaos_emerald (1138) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication egg_mobile (23) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication phantom_ruby (35) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication wispon (81) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication sol_emerald (46) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication death_egg (12) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication master_emerald (235) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication flicky (83) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication bumper_(sonic) (18) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication e-series (220) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication eggman_empire (178) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication angel_island (42) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)

Reason: These are all objects, places and concepts from Sonic.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4113 (forum #357202) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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The bulk update request #4114 has been rejected.

create implication cube_wisp (2) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication hover_wisp (3) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication laser_wisp (8) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication rocket_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication spikes_wisp (1) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication boost_wisp (7) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication burst_wisp (1) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication frenzy_wisp (3) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication ghost_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create alias jade_wisp (3) -> ghost_wisp (0)
create implication purple_wisp (2) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication drill_wisp (1) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication void_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication asteroid_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication bomb_wisp (1) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication eagle_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication quake_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication lightning_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)
create implication rhythm_wisp (0) -> wisp_(sonic) (173)

Reason: The different wisps should imply the main wisp species tag, like the chao tags do ๐Ÿ™‚ Hopefully I got them all

Edit: Added missing wisps, added alias from jade wisp to ghost wisp to match the other wisps.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4114 (forum #357204) has failed: Error: Antecedent tag must not be aliased to another tag (create implication cube_wisp -> wisp_(sonic))

EDIT: The bulk update request #4114 (forum #357204) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

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The bulk update request #4118 is active.

create implication sonic_frontiers (185) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication sonic_prime (370) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
mass update sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) (26) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(comics) (19176)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(ova) (37) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication sonic_colors (42) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)

Reason: Parts of the series should imply the series. Because the Sonic Manga is a comic, it should imply the comics tag. I only included entries with unique elements here since I noticed a lot of other things are aliased to the main tag.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4118 (forum #357248) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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naughtyclaws said:
The bulk update request #4118 is active.

create implication sonic_frontiers (185) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication sonic_prime (370) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
mass update sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) (26) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(comics) (19176)
create implication sonic_the_hedgehog_(ova) (37) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)
create implication sonic_colors (42) -> sonic_the_hedgehog_(series) (116004)

Reason: Parts of the series should imply the series. Because the Sonic Manga is a comic, it should imply the comics tag. I only included entries with unique elements here since I noticed a lot of other things are aliased to the main tag.

These probably should be aliased instead. Is there a reason they should be kept as separate tags? sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) is also pretty generic; which manga? Since manga literally means comic, it could refer to any Sonic comic.

watsit said:
These probably should be aliased instead. Is there a reason they should be kept as separate tags? sonic_the_hedgehog_(manga) is also pretty generic; which manga? Since manga literally means comic, it could refer to any Sonic comic.

But why? Things like sonic_shuffle aren't. Nearly all of these have unique characters.

As for the manga, I agree, I personally would change it to sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) since that's the publisher. I can edit the BUR to that?

naughtyclaws said:
But why? Things like sonic_shuffle aren't. Nearly all of these have unique characters.

Honestly, it's all pretty messy about when entries are aliased to a series and when they're left separate. To make it more confusing, some series have some entries aliased away and not others, with no apparent reason (e.g. super_mario_bros_3 is aliased away, but not super_mario_3d_world; super_mario_64 is aliased away, but not super_mario_galaxy; super_mario_sunshine is aliased away, but not super_mario_odyssey). But the rule of thumb I generally go by is if you can look at drawings depicting that entry's setting, and generally identify it as that entry (excluding any characters since they can always appear in other games, or art style since different artists can apply their own style to the drawing), it may be worth keeping a separate tag. As far as I know, I don't think the different Sonic games are all that distinguishable from each other like that, much like Pokemon.

naughtyclaws said:
As for the manga, I agree, I personally would change it to sonic_the_hedgehog_(shogakukan) since that's the publisher. I can edit the BUR to that?

The series name or publisher would make sense, which would follow the sonic_the_hedgehog_(archie) and sonic_the_hedgehog_(idw) precedent.

watsit said:
Honestly, it's all pretty messy about when entries are aliased to a series and when they're left separate. To make it more confusing, some series have some entries aliased away and not others, with no apparent reason (e.g. super_mario_bros_3 is aliased away, but not super_mario_3d_world; super_mario_64 is aliased away, but not super_mario_galaxy; super_mario_sunshine is aliased away, but not super_mario_odyssey). But the rule of thumb I generally go by is if you can look at drawings depicting that entry's setting, and generally identify it as that entry (excluding any characters since they can always appear in other games, or art style since different artists can apply their own style to the drawing), it may be worth keeping a separate tag. As far as I know, I don't think the different Sonic games are all that distinguishable from each other like that, much like Pokemon.

The series name or publisher would make sense, which would follow the sonic_the_hedgehog_(archie) and sonic_the_hedgehog_(idw) precedent.

I think sonic_origins and sonic_runners can probably alias instead, but I think the others have enough merit to remain separate, IMO. Sonic Colors introduced the wisps and has a lot of iconic stages, and Frontiers is well, Frontiers. A bulk of what's in it is completely new and only the Cyber Space levels really work like traditional Sonic.

The others aren't games but other franchise stuff. Prime is a cartoon that has a bunch of alternate universes, for example.

I'll update the BUR for the manga, and I'll leave off Origins and Runners for now. Origins should probably alias to Classic Sonic, though.

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