Topic: Group fetish tag organizing

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

There's a lot of tags out there that describe multiple characters preforming the same action together or having the same thing happen to them. These tags are still useful separate from the group and large_group tags. Searching group transformation gets lots of results of people transforming in the middle of crowds or with friends that are not transforming, while group_transformation only gets multiple people being transformed.

The problem is that there are tons of them with no standardization. Many of them also have an underdeveloped wiki or no wiki entry. Almost all of them still need implications. As it is, it is hard to find these tags or know if you're using the right one, which is likely a part of why they are so under tagged.

I believe that the best way to handle these tags would be to alias and merge them to mirror the general group and large_group tags. Under this system, each subject that needs these tags would have group_verb tag that refers to 3 or more characters effected and a mass_verb tag to refer to 10+ characters effected. A duo_verb tag may also be used for some subjects. While I don't think it is as useful, several subjects have a multiple_verb tags that refer to 2+ characters effected. These should be grandfathered in.
No "trio_verb" tags should be used because they are more specific than the general character count tags. "solo_verb" tags should not be used because their effect can be created by combining solo or solo_focus and any tag.
There are still edge cases where this won't work. This is a large project I'm not familiar with some of these tags, so I'd like to discuss and ask for opinions here.

I have done the best I can to locate all of these tags. Here are my findings.

Sex

Group
*group_sex - Applies at 3+
**orgy - Only applies if all characters are having sex with each other. Applies at 5+
**parallel_sex - Only applies if characters are paired off from each other. Applies at 4+
**group_frottage - no wiki
**gangbang
**reverse_gangbang
**A lot of specific positions.

Large Group
*mass_orgy -Breaks convention with a orgy and applies the same as group_sex, just with more characters. Applies at 10+

Rape

Group
*gang_rape - applies if 3+ characters are forcing themselves.

Large Group
No tag

Other
*mass_rape - applies if 2+ characters are nonconsenting.

Bondage

Group
*group_bondage - No wiki

Large Group
*No tag

Other
*cobondage - 2+ bound to each other
*bound_together - 2+ bound to each other
*mutual_chastity - No wiki

Mind Control

Group
*group_hypnosis - No wiki

Large Group
*mass_hypnosis - No wiki

Transformation

Group
*group_transformation - applies at 3+

Large Group

  • No tag

Other
*duo_transformation - applies at 2
*trio_transformation - applies at 3

No tag for multiple characters transforming into the same species

Pregnancy

Group
*group_birth - 2+ characters giving birth
*group_oviposition - no wiki, seems to be used as 2+
*group_pregnancy

Large Group
No tags

Multiple
*multiple_pregnancies - applies at 3+
*both_pregnant - applies at 2

Vore
Prey

Group
No tag

Large Group
*mass_vore - applies at 6+, but must all be eaten by 1 pred

Multiple
*multiple_prey - applies at 2+

Pred

Group
No tag

Large Group
No tag

Multiple
*multiple_pred - applies at 2+

Other

*group_masturbation - applies at 2+
**circlejerk

*group_hug

*group_kissing

*group_bathing
*bathing_together
*showering_together

*hands_everywhere - applies at 5+ hands, 2.5+ characters
*feet_everywhere - applies at 5+ hands, 2.5+ characters
*penis_everywhere - no amount in wiki
*tentacles_everywhere - no amount in wiki

*group_nudity
*social_nudity

*peeing_together

No changes needed, but these and their subtags may be useful for editing the wikis of other tags and looking or images that fit other tags.
*collaborative
*assisted
*mutual

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unwholynsfw said:
This is because of the equally odd both_pregnant tag. :/

multiple_pregnancies and both_pregnant should probably alias to the group_pregnancy tag.

Thanks for pointing it out, I'll add it to the list.

I would alias both_pregnant to duo_pregnant, alias group_pregnancy to group_pregnant, bulk update multiple_pregnancies to group_pregnant, then have all that remain with tags in them imply multiple_pregnant. This way all of them would end in pregnant, and group_pregnant would match the general group tag's definition. Lobbing all the tags together into one isn't the goal, having different tags for different amounts is still valuable.

More possibly related tags:

  • Parallel_sex - Two or more sets of characters are performing sex acts independent of yet beside each other.
  • Mutual_chastity - used to describe a dynamic where both/several characters are in chastity, as opposed to the typical key holder (dom) + character in chastity (sub) relationship. Or perhaps a more straightforward definition would be "when there are multiple characters in chastity together"? Currently lacks a wiki.
  • Hands_everywhere - many characters or disembodied hands groping/teasing/etc. the same character. (Minimum of 5 hand, according to the wiki)

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crocogator said:
More possibly related tags:

  • Parallel_sex - Two or more sets of characters are performing sex acts independent of yet beside each other.
  • Mutual_chastity - used to describe a dynamic where both/several characters are in chastity, as opposed to the typical key holder (dom) + character in chastity (sub) relationship. Or perhaps a more straightforward definition would be "when there are multiple characters in chastity together"? Currently lacks a wiki.
  • Hands_everywhere - many characters or disembodied hands groping/teasing/etc. the same character. (Minimum of 5 hand, according to the wiki)

Mutual_chastity is an interesting one. Right now it seems to be used for any image with 2+ characters in chastity, but if we have it imply multiple_chastity, another way it could be used is for images where the dom is in chastity as well as their sub while excluding images where there are only several subs in chastity.

The bulk update request #8000 is pending approval.

create implication duo_transformation (126) -> transformation (78331)
create implication group_transformation (67) -> group (457780)
create implication group_transformation (67) -> transformation (78331)
create implication mass_transformation (2) -> large_group (3158)
create implication mass_transformation (2) -> group_transformation (67)
create alias trio_transformation (15) -> group_transformation (67)

Reason: See thread

The bulk update request #8001 is pending approval.

create alias group_hypnosis (37) -> group_mind_control (0)
create alias mass_hypnosis (12) -> mass_mind_control (0)
create implication group_mind_control (0) -> group (457780)
create implication group_mind_control (0) -> mind_control (29493)
create implication mass_mind_control (0) -> large_group (3158)
create implication mass_mind_control (0) -> group_mind_control (0)

Reason: See thread. Aliasing group and mass hypnosis to mind control because mind control is implicated by hypnosis.

oozeenthusiast said:
The bulk update request #8000 is pending approval.

create implication duo_transformation (126) -> transformation (78331)
create implication group_transformation (67) -> group (457780)
create implication group_transformation (67) -> transformation (78331)
create implication mass_transformation (2) -> large_group (3158)
create implication mass_transformation (2) -> group_transformation (67)
create alias trio_transformation (15) -> group_transformation (67)

Reason: See thread

Duo transformation can be depicted with more than 2 characters present; the rest can just not be transforming. post #3681830

oozeenthusiast said:
The bulk update request #8000 is pending approval.

create implication duo_transformation (126) -> transformation (78331)
create implication group_transformation (67) -> group (457780)
create implication group_transformation (67) -> transformation (78331)
create implication mass_transformation (2) -> large_group (3158)
create implication mass_transformation (2) -> group_transformation (67)
create alias trio_transformation (15) -> group_transformation (67)

Reason: See thread

I think trio transformation should imply group transformation instead of being aliased away. We have trio and trio_focus both imply group, so why can't trio transformations? Plus, it can be helpful for those who want to find exactly three characters transforming in an image or find four or more transformations happening at once overwhelming or just too much.

alien_fluff said:
I think trio transformation should imply group transformation instead of being aliased away. We have trio and trio_focus both imply group, so why can't trio transformations? Plus, it can be helpful for those who want to find exactly three characters transforming in an image or find four or more transformations happening at once overwhelming or just too much.

I was against it because less tags makes things more easy to learn, and an image with 3 characters is not as starkly different from an image with 4 characters the same way 2 and 3 are, but I do see your point. We're missing a middle size because 3-9 characters in an image has a very different feel at different ends of the scale. I'll keep trio and give it implications if anyone else is in favor of it. I'll also argue in favor of a 5+ instead of or in addition to the trio tag, since it'd have parity with orgy which already uses 5 as it's cut off, and 4 is the maximum for human subitizing or counting at a glance. Not sure what to call it though because medium_group doesn't sound right.

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