Topic: inflatable_nozzle [BUR]

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

OozeEnthusiast

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The bulk update request #3334 is pending approval.

create alias nozzle (1538) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create alias inflation_valve (83) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create alias inflatable_valve (21) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
mass update belly_valve -> belly_nozzle
mass update bellybutton_nozzle -> belly_nozzle
mass update nozzle_on_belly -> belly_nozzle
mass update nozzle_on_crotch -> crotch_nozzle
create implication crotch_nozzle (0) -> suggestive_nozzle (22)
create implication breast_nozzle (5) -> suggestive_nozzle (22)
create implication navel_nozzle (24) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create implication belly_nozzle (5) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create implication midriff_nozzle (0) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create implication suggestive_nozzle (22) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create implication mouth_nozzle (2) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create implication leg_nozzle (2) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)
create implication thigh_nozzle (5) -> leg_nozzle (2)
create implication tail_nozzle (11) -> inflatable_nozzle (0)

Reason: Two separate nozzle related proposals in one.

First, alias all tags that are used for inflatable nozzles to inflatable_nozzle. As far as I can tell the nozzle tag is used for inflatable nozzles exclusively.
The goal of this change is to make tags for different types of nozzles, particularly fluid_nozzle and spray_nozzle more visible and hopefully increase their usage. This may also decrease mistags, although there don't seem to be any.

Second, standardize all inflatable nozzle location tags and give them implications when appropriate.
Nozzle location tags are woefully underused. I hope that these changes make them easier to use and get people tagging them. I have chosen to leave them at just location_nozzle rather than location_inflatable_nozzle to keep them short and because other kinds of nozzles on characters are very rare.

Fluffball

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What if there is a character with a nozzle that isn't an inflatable?

- Have thigh_nozzle imply leg_nozzle.
- Is belly_nozzle, and navel_nozzle not the same idea?

OozeEnthusiast

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thevileone said:
What if there is a character with a nozzle that isn't an inflatable?

Characters with non inflatable nozzles are rare, but there are a few. Right now the only tags I can find related to it are living_keg and nipple_faucet. There isn't any precedent for tag names for those currently. Because inflatable nozzles are used such an overwhelming majority and was already presumed by existing nozzle and valve tags, I thought it would be best to continue assuming inflatable nozzles when I made the bur. Giving it more attention now though, that actually seems like a bad idea, and the longer the distinction is not made, the harder it will be to gather other kinds of nozzles later. Here are a few ideas for what we can do and my thoughts on them.

location_type_nozzle

Every nozzle is tagged location_type_nozzle. This is bad because it creates very long unwieldy tag names. While this is easier to accept on niche tags, inflatable nozzles are very common, just undertagged. "suggestive_inflatable_nozzle" on it's own fills the entire search bar. This will also create a lot of tags for every type of nozzle. Those may just be a nitpicks though. This is good because it is intuitive and has very little ambiguity.

location_nozzle, no assumption

Only location_nozzle is used, and no nozzle type is presumed by that tag while a second tag specifying type is used. This is bad because nobody is tagging nozzle type at all right now. Unless something changes, only images with non-inflatable nozzles will get the appropriate type tag. Also this will make some searches harder for images that feature both inflatable nozzles and other nozzles, however none exist as far as I'm aware. This is good because it is intuitive and keeps tags concise.

location_nozzle assumes inflatable, method A
location_nozzle

assumes inflatable nozzle, and location_tap or location_faucet assumes all other kinds of nozzles. This is bad because it is unintuitive. Some people may assume location_nozzle is correct when tagging non-inflatable nozzles and it will be very difficult to locate these mistags after the mistake is made. This is also bad because it assumes only two types of nozzles and is very difficult to expand. This is good because it keeps all tags concise, and does not require it change in the current usage of nozzle tags.

location_nozzle assumes inflatable, method B
location_nozzle

assumes inflatable nozzle, and all other nozzles use location_type_nozzle. This is bad because compared to method A it only solves expandability. People will still assume location_nozzle is correct for non-inflatable nozzles. It is also less concise then method A for non-inflatable nozzles. This is good because it keeps inflatable nozzle tags concise, and does not require it change in the current usage of nozzle tags.

Personally I think the fourth option is the best, but maybe someone else can come up with something better. There also is the matter of how to tag different kinds of nozzles in general. Right now nozzle on it's own assumes an inflatable nozzle on a character, and as far as I know there isn't a tag for inflatable nozzles not on characters. There's also the tags fluid_nozzle and fluid_tap that does not assume placement on a character.

thevileone said:
- Have thigh_nozzle imply leg_nozzle.

Good idea. Consider it done.

thevileone said:
- Is belly_nozzle, and navel_nozzle not the same idea?

Going by the belly wiki, belly describes "a rounded lower abdomen/stomach area". If the character isn't fat, pregnant, or a dinosaur, and has a flat lower abdomen they should instead be tagged with midriff. navel rather than referring to a midriff, means belly button. I would have navel_nozzle imply belly_nozzle or midriff_nozzle, but bellies and midriffs are mutually exclusive.
While looking this all up, I did realize I forgot to add an implication for midriff_nozzle, so I'll add that too.

OozeEnthusiast

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The bulk update request #7480 is pending approval.

create implication nipple_faucet (18) -> suggestive_faucet (0)
create implication penis_faucet (5) -> crotch_faucet (0)
create implication crotch_faucet (0) -> suggestive_faucet (0)
create implication suggestive_faucet (0) -> faucet (514)

Reason: Giving these a similar tag structure to to what I mentioned for suggestive nozzle tags should make it easier to find similar content when starting from either of these faucet tags.

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