Topic: [APPROVED] 32:25 aspect ratio tag category

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #2858 is active.

change category 32:25 (0) -> meta
change category 25:32 (0) -> meta

Reason: Those aspect ratio tags are in the general tags category, but they should be in the meta tags category.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2858 (forum #340002) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2879 (forum #) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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There are many more aspect ratios not being in the meta category:
11:6, 32:41, 32:33, 13:16, 21:9, 9:21, 135:256, 17:11, 20:29, 13:14, 64:35, 9:10, 10:7, 17:9, 32:9, 6:7, 29:48, 9:17, 7:6, 40:19, 19:25, 8:9, 17:22, 35:18, 7:9, 15:19, 11:8, 11:9, 10:9, 33:50, 8:11, 100:99, 10:11, 21:17, 9:11, 13:19, 13:17, 22:17, 17:20, 16:13, 16:15, 20:17, 14:15, 27:22, 10:13, 13:12, 6:13, 16:21, 11:15, 13:15, 16:21, 24:23, 9:5, 23:26, 12:17, 29:25, 5:9, 11:12, 9:8, 13:10, 15:22, 50:59, 11:10, 17:19, 21:32, 16:11, 13:20, 18:25, 19:18, 11:14, 9:7, 23:30, 25:18, 15:16, 20:21, 26:27, 15:13, 2:5, 19:20, 14:19, 9:13, 22:15, 19:14, 15:14, 25:16, 11:17, 3:7, 11:13, 22:25, 13:18, 20:19, 11:16, 14:17, 17:12, 15:17, 19:21, 16:19, 12:19, 29:18, 31:37, 37:36, 5:33, 16:17, 19:11, 25:32, 12:25, 20:27, 24:37, 99:98, 13:6, 35:41, 28:39
(sorted from most to least used, with at least 10 images)

Then there are these four that use a non-standard format with half-numbers, which should preferably be aliased to their whole numbers for consistency:
9:19.5 → 18:39
9:18.5 → 18:37
19.5:9 → 39:18
18.5:9 → 37:18

liggliluff said:
There are many more aspect ratios not being in the meta category:
11:6, 32:41, 32:33, 13:16, 21:9, 9:21, 135:256, 17:11, 20:29, 13:14, 64:35, 9:10, 10:7, 17:9, 32:9, 6:7, 29:48, 9:17, 7:6, 40:19, 19:25, 8:9, 17:22, 35:18, 7:9, 15:19, 11:8, 11:9, 10:9, 33:50, 8:11, 100:99, 10:11, 21:17, 9:11, 13:19, 13:17, 22:17, 17:20, 16:13, 16:15, 20:17, 14:15, 27:22, 10:13, 13:12, 6:13, 16:21, 11:15, 13:15, 16:21, 24:23, 9:5, 23:26, 12:17, 29:25, 5:9, 11:12, 9:8, 13:10, 15:22, 50:59, 11:10, 17:19, 21:32, 16:11, 13:20, 18:25, 19:18, 11:14, 9:7, 23:30, 25:18, 15:16, 20:21, 26:27, 15:13, 2:5, 19:20, 14:19, 9:13, 22:15, 19:14, 15:14, 25:16, 11:17, 3:7, 11:13, 22:25, 13:18, 20:19, 11:16, 14:17, 17:12, 15:17, 19:21, 16:19, 12:19, 29:18, 31:37, 37:36, 5:33, 16:17, 19:11, 25:32, 12:25, 20:27, 24:37, 99:98, 13:6, 35:41, 28:39
(sorted from most to least used, with at least 10 images)

Then there are these four that use a non-standard format with half-numbers, which should preferably be aliased to their whole numbers for consistency:
9:19.5 → 18:39
9:18.5 → 18:37
19.5:9 → 39:18
18.5:9 → 37:18

You could have made a BUR out of this, since you went to the trouble of tracking them all down.

The bulk update request #2861 is active.

change category 11:6 (0) -> meta
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change category 21:9 (0) -> meta
change category 9:21 (0) -> meta
change category 135:256 (323) -> meta
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change category 7:9 (4) -> meta

Reason: Same as parent topic #34538

EDIT: The bulk update request #2861 (forum #340023) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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The bulk update request #2862 is active.

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Reason: Same as parent topic #34538

EDIT: The bulk update request #2862 (forum #340024) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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The bulk update request #2863 is active.

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Reason: Same as parent topic #34538

EDIT: The bulk update request #2863 (forum #340025) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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The bulk update request #2864 is active.

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Reason: Same as parent topic #34538

EDIT: The bulk update request #2864 (forum #340026) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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The bulk update request #2865 is active.

change category 37:36 (0) -> meta
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Reason: Same as parent topic #34538

EDIT: The bulk update request #2865 (forum #340027) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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The bulk update request #2866 has been rejected.

mass update 9:19.5 -> 18:39
mass update 9:18.5 -> 18:37
mass update 19.5:9 -> 39:18
mass update 18.5:9 -> 37:18

Reason:

liggliluff said:
...there are these four that use a non-standard format with half-numbers, which should preferably be aliased to their whole numbers for consistency:

electricitywolf might as well rename topic to "Aspect ratio BUR"

EDIT: The bulk update request #2866 (forum #340030) has been rejected by @bitWolfy.

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bitWolfy

Former Staff

waydence said:
The bulk update request #2866 has been rejected.

mass update 9:19.5 -> 18:39
mass update 9:18.5 -> 18:37
mass update 19.5:9 -> 39:18
mass update 18.5:9 -> 37:18

Reason: electricitywolf might as well rename topic to "Aspect ratio BUR"

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pup will bonk me on the head if I approved this.
In case you don't know, they run a bot that automatically adds most common aspect ratio tags to posts.

The problem here is that aspect ratio tags are supposed to be exact.
If you wanted to search for non-exact ratios, you can already do that by (for example) searching for ratio:0.46153846153 (9:19.5).
Aliasing that decimal-digit tag to the closest whole number goes against this paradigm.

bitwolfy said:
Aliasing that decimal-digit tag to the closest whole number goes against this paradigm.

but 9:19.5 and 18:39 are the same ratio, likewise 9:18.5 = 18:37... it's just multiplying both factors by 2.

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bitwolfy said:
Aliasing that decimal-digit tag to the closest whole number goes against this paradigm.

...But they were aliasing 9:19.5 to 18:39, not 9:20?

bitWolfy

Former Staff

wat8548 said:
...But they were aliasing 9:19.5 to 18:39, not 9:20?

deleuzian_cattery said:
but 9:19.5 and 18:39 are the same ratio, likewise 9:18.5 = 18:37... it's just multiplying both factors by 2.

Ah fuck. I misread it.
Sorry.

drag007 said:
The bulk update request #3341 is pending approval.

create alias 9:21 (0) -> 3:7 (17)
create alias 18:39 (0) -> 6:13 (180) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur
create alias 39:18 (0) -> 13:6 (15) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur

Reason: Alias the divisible ratio.

Um, what should i do with this?

drag007 said:
The bulk update request #3341 is pending approval.

create alias 9:21 (0) -> 3:7 (17)
create alias 18:39 (0) -> 6:13 (180) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur
create alias 39:18 (0) -> 13:6 (15) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur

Reason: Alias the divisible ratio.

Going to need to

unalias 9:19.5 -> 18:39
unalias 19.5:9  -> 39:18

as well so they can be realiased to the smaller whole ratio à la

alias 9:19.5 -> 6:13
alias 19.5:9  -> 13:6

wait so what do we generally do, aliasing it to smaller numbers, or aliasing it to more common numbers, which may not be the smallest?
cause things like 21:9 can be shrunken down to 7:3, but its actually currently aliased the other way around

The bulk update request #3356 has been rejected.

create alias 9:18 (0) -> 1:2 (5884)
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change category 15:11 (0) -> meta

Reason: Turns out, there are lots more to come!
tags with at least 10 posts as of creating this.
Chopped off the 4 digit ratio, and added aliasing 9:18 to 1:2

Update: Someone cleaned up the tags so uh... Not really sure how useful this BUR is now

EDIT: The bulk update request #3356 (forum #346246) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

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what's with these dimensions like 6071:8598 that are really close to a ratio of √2 yet still not as close as they could be (6071:8586 would be closer, for example)?

deleuzian_cattery said:
what's with these dimensions like 6071:8598 that are really close to a ratio of √2 yet still not as close as they could be (6071:8586 would be closer, for example)?

its possible that the original canvas is one of the A# paper sizes, since the dimensions of them are defined to have a ratio of √2, and maybe +- some formatting

drag007 said:
6071:8598 is B4 size. This is a standard called Japanese variation and is distributed in some countries including Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size

A list that allows you to easily check the standard (It is written about the number of pixels in Japanese) http://www.sizeall.sakura.ne.jp/abpixel.php

it'd probably be best to call it something like 1:sqrt2 or metric_paper_ratio or something, using 4+ digit starts to become meaningless

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darryus said:
it'd probably be best to call it something like 1:sqrt2 or metric_paper_ratio or something using 4+ digit starts to become meaningless

Excluding the current major standards, 100:99 is the largest meta tag number, but how far is this ratio generally accepted?
1-30 is the confirmed tolerance.

I don't know how to create a BUR in a comment

category 18:23 -> meta
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category 32:27 -> meta
category 30:23 -> meta
category 17:25 -> meta
category 25:27 -> meta
category 17:15 -> meta
category 17:21 -> meta
category 19:24 -> meta
category 31:40 -> meta

Edit: thanks m3g4p0n1

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The bulk update request #3963 has been rejected.

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Reason: Additional aspect ratios

EDIT: The bulk update request #3963 (forum #355361) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

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Donovan DMC

Former Staff

Anything not listed on tag_group:aspect_ratios should be discarded, I've already cleared out anything not listed there, and have an automated script removing anything not listed there running daily, because we do not need a tag for each and every ratio

donovan_dmc said:
Anything not listed on tag_group:aspect_ratios should be discarded, I've already cleared out anything not listed there, and have an automated script removing anything not listed there running daily, because we do not need a tag for each and every ratio

the ones that remain are still a bit odd. like, why keep both 7:4 and 16:9? why 256:135 rather than 17:9?

full list

10:9 = 1.11 (?)
6:5 = 1.2
5:4 = 1.25
4:3 = 1.33
11:8 = 1.375 (¿)
7:5 = 1.4 (?)
13:9 = 1.44 (?)
3:2 = 1.5
14:9 = 1.55 (¿)
16:10 = 1.6
5:3 = 1.66
7:4 = 1.75 (¿)
16:9 = 1.77
17:9 = 1.88 (?)
256:135 = 1.896 (¿)
2:1 = 2
21:9 = 2.33
24:9 = 2.66 (?)
3:1 = 3

the ones marked (?) I feel like should exist but don't (¿) are the ones that probably aren't necessarily or maybe should be replaced.

same applies to the portrait layout equivalents.

Donovan DMC

Former Staff

sipothac said:
the ones that remain are still a bit odd. like, why keep both 7:4 and 16:9? why 256:135 rather than 17:9?

full list

10:9 = 1.11 (?)
6:5 = 1.2
5:4 = 1.25
4:3 = 1.33
11:8 = 1.375 (¿)
7:5 = 1.4 (?)
13:9 = 1.44 (?)
3:2 = 1.5
14:9 = 1.55 (¿)
16:10 = 1.6
5:3 = 1.66
7:4 = 1.75 (¿)
16:9 = 1.77
17:9 = 1.88 (?)
256:135 = 1.896 (¿)
2:1 = 2
21:9 = 2.33
24:9 = 2.66 (?)
3:1 = 3

the ones marked (?) I feel like should exist but don't (¿) are the ones that probably aren't necessarily or maybe should be replaced.

same applies to the portrait layout equivalents.

What's left over is what either is actually widely used, what people could come up with a use for or were listed in the wikipedia page for aspect ratios
I still disagree with 256:135 & 135:256, but it's listed there
It's also being automatically tagged by pup, so I can't clear it out either way

TBH, I've never seen a reason to add them manually. If pop9pup bot thinks they're 1:1 or absurd_megabyteage, then I can use the bot's tags to find stuff like that. Who was adding unusual sizes manually? (Rhetorical, we can actually look that up)

alphamule said:
TBH, I've never seen a reason to add them manually. If pop9pup bot thinks they're 1:1 or absurd_megabyteage, then I can use the bot's tags to find stuff like that. Who was adding unusual sizes manually? (Rhetorical, we can actually look that up)

I've only ever added a ratio tag if re621 suggested it to me. I think Pup's bot has added a few others.

I'm not taking the time out of my day to calculate the aspect ratio otherwise (unless it was something obvious like 1:1 or 1:2), and don't understand why people are crazy enough to waste their time on something so pointless.

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