Aliasing breathplay → asphyxiation
Link to alias

Reason:

same thing

I know they aren't exactly the same thing, but what's the distinction between this and choking?

Breathplay encompasses stuff like bagging and underwater breathplay, neither of which can use choking (I'm not even sure stuff like hanging can be tagged with choking)

I would be tempted to suggest an implication of choking -> asphyxiation since the terms overlap, but it sounds to me as if breathplay would actually be the more accurate tag based on how it's used. I think this might help prevent people from tagging asphyxiation (the fetish term) when it should really just be choking. An unintended bonus would be having a tag that's shorter and easier to spell.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Asphyxiation is generally used as a fetish term (even though it isn't defined as such), while choking is generally used as a violence term. I have not researched it upon this site, however, so I'm not certain if that's the way it works here, but I think it should be used that way.

• Asphyxiation->Pleasure upon the victim, or clear signs of consent.
• Choking->Anything else, especially where it seems to be forceful and without consent.

Furrin_Gok said:
Asphyxiation is generally used as a fetish term (even though it isn't defined as such), while choking is generally used as a violence term. I have not researched it upon this site, however, so I'm not certain if that's the way it works here, but I think it should be used that way.

• Asphyxiation->Pleasure upon the victim, or clear signs of consent.
• Choking->Anything else, especially where it seems to be forceful and without consent.

That's pretty much the trend I've seen (granted I haven't looked that closely). Unsurprisingly there are ~70 posts tagged with both, which is lower than I thought but there's obviously some confusion with which term to use.

What I'm suggesting is this:

• either Choking or asphyxiation - Any type of breathing restriction, especially where it seems to be forceful and without consent...or you know, from a hunk of food. (alias one to the other)
• Breathplay - Pleasure upon the victim, or clear signs of consent.

Benefits: We can imply breathplay -> choking to give better control over blacklisting while also making it more obvious what each should be used for.
Drawbacks: Bagging, underwater breathplay, etc. would be tagged "choking" which may seem somewhat weird.
Possible workaround: Use asphyxiation as the broader term instead of choking. (just a thought)

This is just my take on it anyways. I'd like to get an opinion from someone who is more familiar with this sort of thing.

parasprite said:
That's pretty much the trend I've seen (granted I haven't looked that closely). Unsurprisingly there are ~70 posts tagged with both, which is lower than I thought but there's obviously some confusion with which term to use.

What I'm suggesting is this:

• either Choking or asphyxiation - Any type of breathing restriction, especially where it seems to be forceful and without consent...or you know, from a hunk of food. (alias one to the other)
• Breathplay - Pleasure upon the victim, or clear signs of consent.

Benefits: We can imply breathplay -> choking to give better control over blacklisting while also making it more obvious what each should be used for.
Drawbacks: Bagging, underwater breathplay, etc. would be tagged "choking" which may seem somewhat weird.
Possible workaround: Use asphyxiation as the broader term instead of choking. (just a thought)

This is just my take on it anyways. I'd like to get an opinion from someone who is more familiar with this sort of thing.

We could do it this way

• Asphyxiation - any form of restricted breathing.
• Choking - Forceful or violent asphyxiation.
• Breathplay - Non violent/consensual asphyxiation.

Tokaido said:
We could do it this way

• Asphyxiation - any form of restricted breathing.
• Choking - Forceful or violent asphyxiation.
• Breathplay - Non violent/consensual asphyxiation.

That works.

Tokaido said:
We could do it this way

• Asphyxiation - any form of restricted breathing.
• Choking - Forceful or violent asphyxiation.
• Breathplay - Non violent/consensual asphyxiation.

that sounds good. all these tags really need cleaning tho

Tokaido said:
We could do it this way

• Asphyxiation - any form of restricted breathing.
• Choking - Forceful or violent asphyxiation.
• Breathplay - Non violent/consensual asphyxiation.

Sounds like a good foundation for creating order with these tags.

A few more which will probably need to reconciled into that system one way or another:

strangle/strangling/strangulation - don't know if we'll want to keep one form of it and alias the others to it. We may not need strangle. OR it could be a more specific type of choking, since the definition for choking is going to be very broad. There's a few options.

And neck_grab is probably co-taggable on some of these images, and probably be worth including in the wiki as a related tag.

furrypickle said:
Sounds like a good foundation for creating order with these tags.

A few more which will probably need to reconciled into that system one way or another:

strangle/strangling/strangulation - don't know if we'll want to keep one form of it and alias the others to it. We may not need strangle. OR it could be a more specific type of choking, since the definition for choking is going to be very broad. There's a few options.

And neck_grab is probably co-taggable on some of these images, and probably be worth including in the wiki as a related tag.

I don't know that strangle/etc. is necessary, particularly since asphyxiation/choking/strangling are so close together as it is. Strangling really just refers to squeezing the neck (with hands, a rope, or the cord from a nintendo controller) and choking is only slightly broader (how it's used in English) in that it includes things like choking on food.

If they get aliased away, I'd lean towards asphyxiation because strangling could include forceful choking with the hands/rope/etc, breathplay, or both. And this would make sure those don't get accidently dumped in the wrong place.

5 months later edit (to not bump thread): Alias was denied in forum #159097