Topic: [FAILED] Ordinary Pokémon BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

gattonero2001

Janitor

The bulk update request #2132 is active.

remove implication legendary_pokémon (0) -> pokémon (0)
create implication legendary_pokémon (0) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication arceus (1108) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication articuno (622) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zapdos (301) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication moltres (321) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mewtwo (5445) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mew (0) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication raikou (307) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication entei (327) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication suicune (1651) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication lugia (7310) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication ho-oh (722) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication celebi (878) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication regirock (78) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication regice (92) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication registeel (100) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication latias (3948) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication latios (2151) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication groudon (658) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication kyogre (541) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication rayquaza (798) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication jirachi (1590) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication deoxys (273) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication uxie (450) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mesprit (578) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication azelf (363) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication dialga (570) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication palkia (601) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication heatran (61) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication regigigas (146) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cresselia (287) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication phione (116) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication giratina (1301) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication manaphy (375) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication darkrai (722) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication shaymin (2685) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication victini (961) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication terrakion (151) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication virizion (467) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tornadus (53) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication landorus (55) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication reshiram (3529) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zekrom (1110) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication kyurem (305) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication thundurus (84) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication genesect (73) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication meloetta (1071) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication yveltal (1468) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde (333) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication xerneas (451) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication volcanion (28) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication diancie (300) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication hoopa (547) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cobalion (197) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication type_null (37) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication silvally (542) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cosmoem (16) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cosmog (126) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication marshadow (357) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zeraora (3805) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication keldeo (601) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication lunala (449) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication magearna (163) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mega_diancie (48) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mega_mewtwo_x (74) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mega_mewtwo_y (408) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication melmetal (22) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication meltan (51) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication necrozma (157) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication solgaleo (650) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_bulu (28) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_fini (90) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_koko (55) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_lele (206) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication dusk_mane_necrozma (29) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication dawn_wings_necrozma (31) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication ultra_necrozma (88) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde_10_forme (155) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde_core (74) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde_complete_forme (31) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zacian (679) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zamazenta (360) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication shadow_lugia (795) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication eternatus (68) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication eternamax_eternatus (4) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication kubfu (76) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication urshifu (698) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication calyrex (141) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication gigantamax_urshifu (4) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zarude (55) -> pokémon_(species) (0)

Reason: Legendary Pokémon are a group of Pokémon species. The current implication is too broad.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2132 (forum #329129) has failed: Implication for galarian_articuno not found

EDIT: The bulk update request #2132 (forum #329129) has failed: Implication for galarian_articuno not found

EDIT: The bulk update request #2132 (forum #329129) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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Watsit

Privileged

wat8548 said:
Uh, why are you also de-implicating a bunch of actual Pokémon species from pokémon_(species)?

EDIT: NVM, they all imply legendary_pokémon so the extra implication is redundant after this BUR.

Although, people have brought up that legendary_pokémon doesn't really work for TWYS, similar to baby_pokémon, and it's not really useful for searching since it contains a wide variety of otherwise unrelated species (we don't tag fire_type_pokémon, even though fire type pokémon generally have fire- or heat-related themes to their design, unlike legendaries which can be as varied as any pokémon), and people have wondered if it maybe should go away. I don't know if it will (I doubt it), but maybe it's worth keeping the individual species implicating pokémon_(species) regardless. It would also avoid special-casing some pokémon to not implicate pokémon_(species), because of some other implication making another implication, making it not obvious if pokémon_(species) is implied.

In any case, those de-implications were silently added after I voted, and I don't think I agree with the added de-implications. I think it's worth reiterating one of the things I brought up in topic #30350, to auto-clear votes when a BUR is edited.

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wat8548

Member

watsit said:
Although, people have brought up that legendary_pokémon doesn't really work for TWYS, similar to baby_pokémon, and it's not really useful for searching since it contains a wide variety of otherwise unrelated species (we don't tag fire_type_pokémon, even though fire type pokémon generally have fire- or heat-related themes to their design, unlike legendaries which can be as varied as any pokémon), and people have wondered if it maybe should go away.

Oh, I absolutely agree with this. fossil_pokémon is a particular pet peeve of mine.

Furrin Gok

Member

There is something more to legendary and fossil than there is to fire or water.

I just want them to drop the accented E so it works with wildcards.

Furrin Gok

Member

wat8548 said:
Nah, there really isn't. Creator Of All Time And Space does not belong in the same category as This Random Hedgehog We Found In A Field.

post #1305162 post #2576138
I dunno, they both look fairly generic to me; however they're both fairly exclusive pokemon only available under special circumstances, gaining popularity through rarity.
Fossil Pokemon aren't rare, but are the pokemon equivelant of revived dinosaurs, which makes them a subject of appreciation.

post #1745181 post #17687 post #355612
More traditional concepts, like "Pikachu is a rodent" are just as easily lost as its typing, unlike pokemon that are intended to be very exclusive to events and plotpoints.

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