Topic: [FAILED] Ordinary Pokémon BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

gattonero2001

Former Staff

The bulk update request #2132 is active.

remove implication legendary_pokémon (0) -> pokémon (0)
create implication legendary_pokémon (0) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication arceus (1376) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication articuno (702) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zapdos (346) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication moltres (363) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mewtwo (6300) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mew (0) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication raikou (350) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication entei (402) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication suicune (1939) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication lugia (8289) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication ho-oh (795) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication celebi (1160) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication regirock (87) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication regice (102) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication registeel (108) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication latias (4457) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication latios (2369) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication groudon (715) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication kyogre (635) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication rayquaza (939) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication jirachi (1797) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication deoxys (296) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication uxie (518) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mesprit (645) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication azelf (419) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication dialga (645) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication palkia (660) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication heatran (66) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication regigigas (174) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cresselia (300) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication phione (132) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication giratina (1566) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication manaphy (435) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication darkrai (775) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication shaymin (3053) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication victini (1160) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication terrakion (158) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication virizion (533) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tornadus (56) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication landorus (61) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication reshiram (4338) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zekrom (1311) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication kyurem (327) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication thundurus (88) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication genesect (79) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication meloetta (1186) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication yveltal (1605) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde (398) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication xerneas (521) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication volcanion (30) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication diancie (361) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication hoopa (636) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cobalion (213) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication type_null (45) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication silvally (643) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cosmoem (20) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication cosmog (146) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication marshadow (441) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zeraora (4660) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication keldeo (667) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication lunala (518) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication magearna (177) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mega_diancie (65) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mega_mewtwo_x (78) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication mega_mewtwo_y (471) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication melmetal (24) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication meltan (54) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication necrozma (175) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication solgaleo (721) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_bulu (29) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_fini (104) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_koko (61) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication tapu_lele (221) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication dusk_mane_necrozma (32) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication dawn_wings_necrozma (40) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication ultra_necrozma (97) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde_10_forme (192) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde_core (82) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zygarde_complete_forme (37) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zacian (776) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zamazenta (410) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication shadow_lugia (945) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication eternatus (77) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication eternamax_eternatus (4) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication kubfu (90) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication urshifu (846) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication calyrex (152) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication gigantamax_urshifu (7) -> pokémon_(species) (0)
remove implication zarude (61) -> pokémon_(species) (0)

Reason: Legendary Pokémon are a group of Pokémon species. The current implication is too broad.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2132 (forum #329129) has failed: Implication for galarian_articuno not found

EDIT: The bulk update request #2132 (forum #329129) has failed: Implication for galarian_articuno not found

EDIT: The bulk update request #2132 (forum #329129) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

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Watsit

Privileged

wat8548 said:
Uh, why are you also de-implicating a bunch of actual Pokémon species from pokémon_(species)?

EDIT: NVM, they all imply legendary_pokémon so the extra implication is redundant after this BUR.

Although, people have brought up that legendary_pokémon doesn't really work for TWYS, similar to baby_pokémon, and it's not really useful for searching since it contains a wide variety of otherwise unrelated species (we don't tag fire_type_pokémon, even though fire type pokémon generally have fire- or heat-related themes to their design, unlike legendaries which can be as varied as any pokémon), and people have wondered if it maybe should go away. I don't know if it will (I doubt it), but maybe it's worth keeping the individual species implicating pokémon_(species) regardless. It would also avoid special-casing some pokémon to not implicate pokémon_(species), because of some other implication making another implication, making it not obvious if pokémon_(species) is implied.

In any case, those de-implications were silently added after I voted, and I don't think I agree with the added de-implications. I think it's worth reiterating one of the things I brought up in topic #30350, to auto-clear votes when a BUR is edited.

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wat8548

Member

watsit said:
Although, people have brought up that legendary_pokémon doesn't really work for TWYS, similar to baby_pokémon, and it's not really useful for searching since it contains a wide variety of otherwise unrelated species (we don't tag fire_type_pokémon, even though fire type pokémon generally have fire- or heat-related themes to their design, unlike legendaries which can be as varied as any pokémon), and people have wondered if it maybe should go away.

Oh, I absolutely agree with this. fossil_pokémon is a particular pet peeve of mine.

Furrin Gok

Member

There is something more to legendary and fossil than there is to fire or water.

I just want them to drop the accented E so it works with wildcards.

Furrin Gok

Member

wat8548 said:
Nah, there really isn't. Creator Of All Time And Space does not belong in the same category as This Random Hedgehog We Found In A Field.

post #1305162 post #2576138
I dunno, they both look fairly generic to me; however they're both fairly exclusive pokemon only available under special circumstances, gaining popularity through rarity.
Fossil Pokemon aren't rare, but are the pokemon equivelant of revived dinosaurs, which makes them a subject of appreciation.

post #1745181 post #17687 post #355612
More traditional concepts, like "Pikachu is a rodent" are just as easily lost as its typing, unlike pokemon that are intended to be very exclusive to events and plotpoints.

Original page: https://e621.net/forum_topics/32735