I blocked some stuff an then noticed the tag Intersex so i had to look it up. Intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born --> with <-- (((reproductive or sexual anatomy))) that 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻'𝘁 fit the boxes of “female” or “male.” Now reading that tells me one thing. No dicks and no vagina. So something with like Tentacles or slime or something then. That makes perfect sense. So why am i finding a bunch of pictures of gynomorphs and andromorph. I don't think people know what a Intersexual is. An yes i know people will try to spin this as if they didn't make a mistake. But your a lying sack of crap if you do. You know perfectly well they have names if they have sexual organs that relating to a vagina or a Penis are either gynomorph or andromorph. Stop being lazy. an please label them correctly.

warsun said:
Now reading that tells me one thing. No dicks and no vagina.

You might want to read more about what intersex means, because this is not it. Irl, intersex is more like someone born with both male and female genitalia, or someone born with boobs and a dick, or even someone born with 2 y chromosomes and normal genitalia.

Obviously here we don’t tag for chromosomes though

warsun said:
So something with like Tentacles or slime or something then.

Um… maybe in an alien species

warsun said:
You know perfectly well they have names if they have sexual organs that relating to a vagina or a Penis are either gynomorph or andromorph.

If you read the wiki, you’ll notice that both gynomorph and andromorph implicate intersex. This is because gynomorphs and andromorphs are both intersex by definition.

i know people will try to spin this as if they didn't make a mistake.

You created a forum thread because of a mistake you made. Pot calling the kettle black, Dunning-Kruger, etc.

Intersex, outside of e621's tagging schema, is any set of sex features outside the bimodal distribution's two most common "values" (which is to say, prototypical males and prototypical females). Most commonly, this involves atypical chromosomal pairs. Copying Wikipedia for just a second...

Sex chromosome DSD: patients with sex chromosome aneuploidy or mosaic sex karyotypes. This includes patients with Turner Syndrome and Klinefelter Syndrome even though they do not generally present with atypical genitals.
XX, Sex reversal: consist of two groups of patients with male phenotypes, the first with translocated SRY and the second with no SRY gene.
Ovotesticular disorder: patients having both ovarian and testicular tissue. In some cases the ovarian tissue is functional.
XY, Sex reversal: patients with female phenotypes where duplication in the Xp21.2 region of the X chromosome that contains the DAX1 gene is associated with XY sex reversal.

Obviously, though, some of these things are more visible than others; some XX males are known to have typical and fully functional genitals. Here, we only consider physical build (girly physique, as an example), presence/absence of breasts, presence/absence of a penis, and presence/absence of a pussy.

Given your previous forum thread about blacklisting solo_male, where you also expressed confusion around the intersex tag, it would be in your best interest to actually study the relationships of the tags you're trying to discuss/blacklist.

warsun said:
Intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born --> with <-- (((reproductive or sexual anatomy))) that 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻'𝘁 fit the boxes of “female” or “male.”

Now reading that tells me one thing. No dicks and no vagina. So something with like Tentacles or slime or something then. That makes perfect sense. So why am i finding a bunch of pictures of gynomorphs and andromorph.

Intersex means...no dicks and no vagina? Am I reading this incorrectly? How do you get that from this definition?

Anyways, now would be a good time to read this.
intersex

secretfox said:
You might want to read more about what intersex means, because this is not it. Irl, intersex is more like someone born with both male and female genitalia, or someone born with boobs and a dick, or even someone born with 2 y chromosomes and normal genitalia.

Obviously here we don’t tag for chromosomes though

Um… maybe in an alien species

If you read the wiki, you’ll notice that both gynomorph and andromorph implicate intersex. This is because gynomorphs and andromorphs are both intersex by definition.

What you are referring too is a Hermaphrodite. An that is referred under HERM. We are not stupid. They are tagged. In an Alien species Yes. That is called an Intersex! An it would not be the first time Wiki got something wrong. People are just being lazy.

lafcadio said:
You created a forum thread because of a mistake you made. Pot calling the kettle black, Dunning-Kruger, etc.

There is no mistake. People are just lazy.

Intersex, outside of e621's

Is this forum outside of e621? No? Then you are mistaken. Sit down. An even if you bring up Sex chromosome DSD then this would be evident in the art being presented. Does it look anything like that? No. its just Horse anatomy or regular human anatomy. AGAIN LAZY!

Given your previous forum thread

Is this that previous thread? No? Mind your own business.

warsun said:
There is no mistake. People are just lazy.

Is this forum outside of e621? No? Then you are mistaken. Sit down. An even if you bring up Sex chromosome DSD then this would be evident in the art being presented. Does it look anything like that? No. its just Horse anatomy or regular human anatomy. AGAIN LAZY!

Is this that previous thread? No? Mind your own business.

Calm down, there is no reason to be so upset.
The wiki definition is correct, and is agreed upon by the vast majority of the userbase. Your definition is not.

warsun said:
What you are referring too is a Hermaphrodite.

A hermaphrodite is an organism that has both kinds of reproductive organs and can produce both gametes associated with male and female sexes. That's only one class of intersex. There are other forms of intersex where only male or only female reproductive organs are present, while a number of other genetic or biological traits of the other sex are also present. These forms are thus between the bimodal expression of male and female sex, they are inter-sex, without being hermaphrodites. For the purposes of e621 tagging, this would be something like a gynomorph, which has only male reproductive organs (penis and/or balls, no vagina) but also breasts and a feminine body shape, or an andromorph, which has only female reproductive organs (vagina, no penis or balls) but also lacking breasts and has a more masculine body shape. These are not herms but are intersex.

popoto said:
Intersex means...no dicks and no vagina? Am I reading this incorrectly? How do you get that from this definition?

Anyways, now would be a good time to read this.
intersex

Yeah. Keep reading. The other definitions.
Here. I'll help you.
Intersex: This tag is appropriate for a character who is neither strictly male nor strictly female but exhibits apparent body features of both.

andromorph:Also called cuntboy, reverse newhalf, reverse shemale, or reverse futanari. An intersex character with a masculine body type, a pussy instead of a penis, and no breasts. Masculine characteristics may include wide shoulders, narrow hips, musculature, jaw line, facial hair, etc.

gynomorph: Also called dickgirl, newhalf or shemale. A gynomorph is a character who is entirely female in appearance but has a penis, balls, or both instead of a pussy.

Herm: Hermaphrodite; This refers to characters with both a pussy and a penis.

While most herm characters have breasts and a feminine body shape, masculine herm characters (without breasts) would fall under maleherm.

Following the 'tag what you see' rule, the herm tag should not be used on images if both the penis and vagina are not visible, even if said characters are known herms. A bulge is not sufficient visual evidence to warrant the herm tag.

MaleHerm: A hermaphrodite who has a masculine appearance, generally emphasized by a lack of breasts.

Note: This is already an intersex gender tag by itself. There's no need to add the herm tag.
Do you know what this last line is important?
No? Because you don't read. Read the last line of Intersex!
This tag is applied automatically by implication. Please avoid manual tagging, ---> and instead use one of the 4 intersex sub-types listed below.<----

Why wont you just admit you're lazy and don't care about rules?

bitwolfy said:
Calm down, there is no reason to be so upset.
The wiki definition is correct, and is agreed upon by the vast majority of the userbase. Your definition is not.

I am not upset. I hate clutter. When i say. Put all the orange cans in the left corner and the blue on the right. I don't like coming back an see the cans mixed in with each other as if people are either ignorant/lazy/ or stupid. I am not saying people are stupid. They know what they are doing. They just don't care. An i am mass downloading. Its cluttering up the downloads thanks to this lazyness. Mass downloader may take up to 12 hours at this rate when it should only take 2 hours to finish.

watsit said:
A hermaphrodite is an organism that has both kinds of reproductive organs and can produce both gametes associated with male and female sexes. That's only one class of intersex. There are other forms of intersex where only male or only female reproductive organs are present, while a number of other genetic or biological traits of the other sex are also present. These forms are thus between the bimodal expression of male and female sex, they are inter-sex, without being hermaphrodites. For the purposes of e621 tagging, this would be something like a gynomorph, which has only male reproductive organs (penis and/or balls, no vagina) but also breasts and a feminine body shape, or an andromorph, which has only female reproductive organs (vagina, no penis or balls) but also lacking breasts and has a more masculine body shape. These are not herms but are intersex.

OK 1. I know what a Hermaphrodite looks like i'm 50 years old. I have watched more porn than you would in your life time so please don't try to explain it too me. Secondly. It is covered in the description.Thanks.

warsun said:
What you are referring too is a Hermaphrodite. An that is referred under HERM. We are not stupid. They are tagged. In an Alien species Yes. That is called an Intersex! An it would not be the first time Wiki got something wrong. People are just being lazy.

Dude, please read Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

warsun said:
Yeah. Keep reading. The other definitions.
Here. I'll help you.

MaleHerm: A hermaphrodite who has a masculine appearance, generally emphasized by a lack of breasts.

Note: This is already an intersex gender tag by itself. There's no need to add the herm tag.
Do you know what this last line is important?
No? Because you don't read. Read the last line of Intersex!
This tag is applied automatically by implication. Please avoid manual tagging, ---> and instead use one of the 4 intersex sub-types listed below.<----

YOU ARE LAZY! ADMIT IT!

You need to work on both your reading comprehension and your attitude. The maleherm wiki is saying that "maleherm" is a standalone intersex tag and should not be used in conjunction with the herm tag, another related intersex tag. The intersex tag is saying to not use "intersex" by itself and instead use either andromorph, gynomorph, herm, or maleherm and the intersex tag will be applied via an implication automatically by the site.

Any time either andromorph, gynomorph, herm, or maleherm is tagged intersex is automatically added as well. This is by design, as we want that to happen.

So no, people are neither stupid, nor lazy, nor full of crap, you just misunderstood a part of our tagging structure.

Hold on now. I didn't say Maleherm was the subject. I pointed it out as a reference to rules. Rule that are being passed off as not part of the forum.
By that i am saying. They read half of whats there then ignore the rest. THAT is what i am saying. Am i wrong?

An in case anyone tries to conflict info here. I am pointing out. We have rules. Please follow the rules. There are people saying Your arguments are not correct. My post is not about arguments its about subjects that should be properly labeled. I cant make anyone do anything. Its all entirely up to them to start labeling things. I am not gonna force people to challenge them over what we all do to help make sure things are properly labeled. So i do appreciate people helping addressing this subject. So thank you for that.

This is not about ME. You are pointing your fingers at me. I am pointing out rules an guidelines. That if you read them on the forum page point out exactly what i said. I am suggesting people are being lazy about following these rules and i am hoping they will improve. Not point fingers and REPORT people for something they are not doing.

I am not being hostile here. You guys are towards me for pointing out rules. An what i am enjoying is how hilarious the disagreements are.

I'm going to try to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that all these weird ramblings, constant accusations of "laziness", issues with mass downloading, and demands that people follow some nebulous undefined "rules" mean something:
Are you perhaps bothered that people are tagging intersex without using more specific tags like hermaphrodite/maleherm/gynomorph/andromorph? That's something I've noticed from time to time, uploaders tagging images with intersex/female but never getting any more specific than that.

warsun said:
No dicks and no vagina. So something with like Tentacles or slime or something then. That makes perfect sense. So why am i finding a bunch of pictures of gynomorphs and andromorph.

This right here is where you’ve failed to understand how the intersex tag works on this site.

The way we use the intersex tag on this site, it refers to everything that is a combination of male and female. It does not apply to alien anatomy. Alien anatomy goes under the ambiguous_gender tag, because we don’t know what it is.

Intersex is an umbrella tag that includes herms and gynomorphs and andromorphs.

warsun said:
Hold on now. I didn't say Maleherm was the subject. I pointed it out as a reference to rules. Rule that are being passed off as not part of the forum.
By that i am saying. They read half of whats there then ignore the rest. THAT is what i am saying. Am i wrong?

An in case anyone tries to conflict info here. I am pointing out. We have rules. Please follow the rules. There are people saying Your arguments are not correct. My post is not about arguments its about subjects that should be properly labeled. I cant make anyone do anything. Its all entirely up to them to start labeling things. I am not gonna force people to challenge them over what we all do to help make sure things are properly labeled. So i do appreciate people helping addressing this subject. So thank you for that.

This is not about ME. You are pointing your fingers at me. I am pointing out rules an guidelines. That if you read them on the forum page point out exactly what i said. I am suggesting people are being lazy about following these rules and i am hoping they will improve. Not point fingers and REPORT people for something they are not doing.

I am not being hostile here. You guys are towards me for pointing out rules. An what i am enjoying is how hilarious the disagreements are.

Half the thread is you ranting about things with nobody having any idea of what you're talking about, I have literally quoted the parts you wrote and picked them apart because what you wrote there is an incorrect conclusion.

However if the actual problem is still

warsun said:
Intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born --> with <-- (((reproductive or sexual anatomy))) that 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻'𝘁 fit the boxes of “female” or “male.”

Now reading that tells me one thing. No dicks and no vagina. So something with like Tentacles or slime or something then. That makes perfect sense. So why am i finding a bunch of pictures of gynomorphs and andromorph.

then what I said still holds true, intersex is our umbrella tag for gynomorph, andromorph, herm, and maleherm, it's not a tag to denote exotic genitalia or whatever you believe it is. Tentacle or slime penises still count as regular genitalia to make characters male, gynomorph, herm, or maleherm depending on their secondary sexual characteristics, and in turn also gets them automatically tagged with intersex in addition.

I also don't understand where you got the definition from that you used because our wiki page on intersex doesn't mention anything about being born without either male or female genitalia, but correctly explains how the tag is used here.