Topic: Tag issue: animal_humanoid

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

The animal_humanoid tag is consistently misused. For those not in the know, this tag used to be animal_ears, and is intended to refer to anime catgirls and such. Blacklisting the tag creates quite a few false positives whenever I check on it. Just by a quick search, you can see the issue pretty quickly.

The tag was aliased because people figured it was too unintuitive that it specifically referred only to humans with animal ears, rather than anthro animals or normal animals with animal ears. Well, apparently animal_humanoid isn't any more intuitive, which doesn't surprise me. Because, you know, all furries are technically animal_humanoids if you think about it.

It's an important tag, but I'm not sure the ratio of false positives is satisfactory. I don't think it's just one or two problem users either. Plenty of people are going to see the tag and come to the conclusion that it is meant to mean the same thing as "anthro," and I don't think that problem will go away no matter how much maintenance it gets.

Humanoid in general has a problem with getting tagged on anthro characters. The first page of results for humanoid has many instances of it referring to anthro characters, and I can only imagine how bad the mistagging is taking previous pages into account.

I honestly don't know how to fix the issue without dropping it completely, but there are legitimate and necessary uses for the tag, so that can't happen either.

watsit said:
Humanoid in general has a problem with getting tagged on anthro characters. The first page of results for humanoid has many instances of it referring to anthro characters, and I can only imagine how bad the mistagging is taking previous pages into account.

I honestly don't know how to fix the issue without dropping it completely, but there are legitimate and necessary uses for the tag, so that can't happen either.

Tagging humanoid for anthro characters is a warnable offense . Won't help with new users, but if the problem taggers keep getting bonked, eventually it'll be less of a problem.

Genjar

Former Staff

Those tags have been a mess ever since the upload form was added.
Back when I still bothered to try, I couldn't even keep up with the new mistags despite spending hours on these per day. And warning users does nothing when most are one-offs tagged by newbies.

A short popup warning, on the upload page, like: "these tags are often misused. Do you want to proceed" with the links to the fitting tags, for often misused tags, as: solo_focus, *_penetrated, *_humanoid, etc. would be helpful. But only if they are used

I think the easiest way to reduce mistags would be if the upload form had links to explanations of how we use certain tags. I know a link to the tagging checklist is at the top of the form, but that is just a long list of links to wiki pages, which your average first-time uploader is going to ignore. Links to how-to pages at the relevant points in the form (e.g. howto:tag_genders) would be useful, like how there's a link to help/ratings next to the rating box.

We assume that everyone knows what humanoid and anthro mean in the context of this site, but to a newcomer they're not immediately obvious, especially if you're not a native English speaker. Outside of the furry fandom, the words basically mean the same thing: compare the definitions of humanoid and anthropomorphic.

I think I may have found a contributing factor. wolf_girl, wolfgirl, wolf_ears, wolfboy, and wolf_boy, are aliased to wolf_humanoid, even though those terms could easily be used to refer to anthros (even wolf_ears; if people tag things like fox_tail on anthro foxes, which they clearly are even through it's not supposed to be on anthros according to the wiki, it'd make sense that they may also tag wolf_ears on anthro wolves). cat_humanoid and fox_humanoid contain similar aliases, which is no doubt adding to the issue of anthros being tagged as both anthro and humanoid.

So... shouldn't we discuss a possible unalias of the tags that are probably contributing for the mass amount of humanoid mistags as pointed by Watsit above? ('-⠀⠀'

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