The bulk update request #622 is active.

Reason: This BUR aims to fill in some of the missing relationships between various sex toy tags.

Nipple, and urethra plugs seem to be primarily specialized for their intended purpose. Specific designs also seem to exist for vaginal / cloacal use, but it is common for buttplugs to be used for multi-orifice applications too. I'd rather be more flexible in the structure regarding those concepts in this BUR at least.

Changes:

The BUR was modified to address concerns with the naming of one of the base tags. I also felt that the plug stuff was worth moving into a separate BUR that could be accepted in tangent with this one. Part 2 is further down in this thread (https://e621.net/forum_topics/28481?page=1#forum_post_303803 / https://e621.net/bulk_update_requests/634)

EDIT: The bulk update request #622 (forum #303518) has been approved by @Millcore.

There is an error in the BUR, line:
create implication buttplug_in_cloaca -> cloacal_penetration?

Also, was there a consensus on whether sex_toy_penetration should mean the sex_toy doing the penetration, and not the penetration into the sex_toy?
Kinda like how penile_penetration means penetrating with a penis, and not penetrating a penis.

On another note, what about breeding_mounts then? Should they be considered the same as a fleshlight/penetrable_sex_toy?

thegreatwolfgang said:
There is an error in the BUR, line:
create implication buttplug_in_cloaca -> cloacal_penetration?

Also, was there a consensus on whether sex_toy_penetration should mean the sex_toy doing the penetration, and not the penetration into the sex_toy?
Kinda like how penile_penetration means penetrating with a penis, and not penetrating a penis.

On another note, what about breeding_mounts then? Should they be considered the same as a fleshlight/penetrable_sex_toy?

I imagine sex_toy_penetrating and sex_toy_penetrated would make for a good fit.

queen_tyr'ahnee said:
I imagine sex_toy_penetrating and sex_toy_penetrated would make for a good fit.

It would, but looking at how there exists a penile_penetration tag for "depicting sexual activity wherein the penis is used to penetrate some orifice".
I see that it should be appropriate to have a counterpart tag for when "depicting sexual activity wherein a dildo is used to penetrate some orifice".

I brought this up in an unrelated thread some time back, but have since moved on to using penetration for naming, instead of insertion.

thegreatwolfgang said:
It would, but looking at how there exists a penile_penetration tag for "depicting sexual activity wherein the penis is used to penetrate some orifice".

But there also exists a vaginal_penetration tag for "depicting a character whose pussy is being penetrated". Given that sex toy can be like a vagina/anus/mouth (fleshlight) or a penis (dildo/plug), it can go either way. The *_penetration tags really need separation between 'x doing the penetrating' and 'x being penetrated'.

watsit said:
But there also exists a vaginal_penetration tag for "depicting a character whose pussy is being penetrated". Given that sex toy can be like a vagina/anus/mouth (fleshlight) or a penis (dildo/plug), it can go either way. The *_penetration tags really need separation between 'x doing the penetrating' and 'x being penetrated'.

Yeah, which is why I was confused when there exists a penile_penetration tag. I brought up the issue and considered renaming it on the other thread, but it did not go far.

I had figured that there should be something with other penetration tags like tentacle_penetration & tail_penetration.
It seems though that tail_penetration (penetrating with a tail) is aliased to tail_sex; however, penile_sex is aliased the other way around to penile_penetration.

The bulk update request #634 is active.

create implication plug_(sex_toy) (17634) -> sex_toy (138000)
create alias plug_(sextoy) (0) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create alias sex_toy_plug (0) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create alias sexual_plug (0) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create implication buttplug_insertion (5998) -> plug_insertion (6243)
create implication buttplug (16181) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
remove implication buttplug (16181) -> sex_toy (138000)
create implication nipple_plugs (468) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create implication urethral_plug (449) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create implication penis_plug (72) -> urethral_plug (449)
create alias cock_plug (0) -> penis_plug (72)
create implication vaginal_plug (178) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create alias pussy_plug (0) -> vaginal_plug (178)
create implication buttplug_in_pussy (31) -> vaginal_plug (178)
create implication cloacal_plug (13) -> plug_(sex_toy) (17634)
create alias cloaca_plug (0) -> cloacal_plug (13)
create implication buttplug_in_cloaca (10) -> cloacal_plug (13)

Reason: This is stage 2 of the BUR presented here: topic #28481

This will bring most of the plugs under a single definition.

EDIT: The bulk update request #634 (forum #303803) has been approved by @Millcore.

Having orifice-specific subtags for "anal plugs" seems like a solid plus to me. A number of other sextoys (anal_beads come to mind) could probably use the same treatment.

I'm not 100% sure about the generic plug for nun-sextoy uses. What of electrical_plug or whateveer tag someone would use to describe an audio jack or headphone plug? Nevermind, I see that's been taken out of the BUR.

The bulk update request #622 (forum #303518) has been approved by @Millcore.

The bulk update request #634 (forum #303803) has been approved by @Millcore.